and when milosevic makes a new war on the kosovars. this provokes yet another american response with a lot less dithering and dilly dallying. it's much quicker, more forceful, and milosevic's eventually brought to the hague for war crimes trials, which is something we, you know, talk about a lot international law and how this is really the ideal way to sort of these problems of genocide and war crimes. but very rarely can we find the international consensus to pull it off. and yet we we did so in kosovo and milosevic's ends ends up dying, i think, in the dock in the hague. so he's he's not know formally ever, you know, in prison. but he or maybe he dies in jail. i forget exactly. his resolution. he dies fairly soon after. but the example of kosovo and bosnia, i think, is important because it it it demands traits that there's sort of a path between been kind of just throwing our might around militarily and and backing off and saying, well, it's not the united states is place to get involved even when there are humanitarian disasters gen

as the problems come, the ways to solve them come, so there will be no gaga gaga was created for milosevic for the criminals of the balkan wars of the 90s, that means then if we say this is a new war - a new crime a new dictator means we need a new court. for today, there are actually two courts in the history of mankind that can deal with this, but they will not deal with it because there is no more nuremberg. and about i do not know if there is a mandate or a mandate to study what putin did nobody knew. i think that there will be a completely third, completely new, completely new trial , where it will be unknown, and i already said once that it will be scattered, scattered, there will be a court there. humanity shows us not for new challenges, new dictators, new international criminals, new new courts are created and new trials are taking place, this is what i can say in moscow, if there were, ukraine will win any trial on zelenskyi, biden will not be, i would like to look at this galina generala saber un adopted a resolution that calls on the referee of the troops from ukraine and to st

you know, slobodan milosevic, for example, himself, ended up in the hague.f people, clearly some of the soldiers responsible for the crimes north of kyiv were captured and have been put on trial. when it comes to leadership, one of the scenarios we didn't talk about was whether a collapse of the russian army would lead to some sort of political implosion. once again, that must be a cherished hope for ukrainians and their supporters. we do know from the experience of libya and yugoslavia that indictment of gaddafi and milosevic gave them nothing to lose. they had to fight on. it's also true that it means the people around them have no interest in precipitating the collapse of that regime because they themselves might then end up on a plane to the hague, as it were, as well. do you think it's realistic? i think it really must happen. you will remember, victoria, when ukrainecast interviewed numerous victims of such atrocities, people who have witnessed them first—hand. and we ask them, why do you think people of this day and age, why do they. impunity allows t

you know, slobodan milosevic, for example, himself, ended up in the hague. soldiers responsible for the crimes north of kyiv were captured and have been put on trial. when it comes to leadership, one of the scenarios we didn't talk about was whether a collapse of the russian army would lead to some sort of political implosion. once again, that must be a cherished hope for ukrainians and their supporters. we do know from the experience of libya and yugoslavia that indictment of gaddafi and milosevic gave them nothing to lose. they had to fight on. it's also true that it means the people around them have no interest in precipitating the collapse of that regime because they themselves might then end up on a plane to the hague, as it were, as well. do you think it's realistic? i think it really must happen. you will remember, victoria, when ukrainecast interviewed numerous victims of such atrocities, people who have witnessed them first—hand. and we ask them, why do you think people of this day and age, why do they to this to each other? they said impunity. impu

allied force genocide whose legitimacy is being tried to justify the tyranny of the sloboda regime on milosevic real reasons are the economic independence of yugoslavia and its refusal to join nato lawyer goron peternievich has been working for many years with documents confirming the crime of nato in his native land. it was to put the balkans under control during the nineties and today their ambition and strategy is to encircle russia because of the natural benefits of warsaw pact russia is no longer the world becomes unipolar. the existence of the warsaw pact did not fire a single shot in europe and there was no more warsaw pact war. in the fall of 2000 , the belgrade district court hears in absentia a criminal case against those who ordered the bombing of yugoslavia. gerhardgerroeder us secretary of state madeleine albright nato secretary general javier savannah commander -in - chief of the alliance forces in europe welsey clark nato ministers of foreign affairs and defense the crimes for which nato leaders are convicted is the use of prohibited cluster warfare weapons i called him a crimina

and he saw this in yugoslavia and the fall of milosevic. and i can remember quite vividly being at the white house and how devastated it was for the russians to see their ally milosevic go down in flames after a student led movement remove him. and one of the things that i found in the book, just coming back to the nerdy part of the book, was this great interview with president clinton about the covert action finding he signed and using covert action a tool for encouraging the student uprising. and so i can bet, you know, you know, i don't have any proof, but i would certainly bet the russians were onto this us level of involvement in the student uprising in serbia and that created a view that i think is, you know, still deeply held today that the united states is aiming for nothing less than putin's ouster, and that that's the ultimate of us policy and. you think that that continues to animate putin today? absolutely. and so should we do about that? well, i don't think you can ever now, given the of blood on putin's hands, given the horrib

this american democracy of the country. the legitimacy that the tyranny of the sloboda regime on milosevictrying to justify is the real reasons the economic independence of yugoslavia and its refusal to join nato lawyer goron petronievich has been working for many years with documents confirming the crime of nato in his native land. he was in to put the balkans under control during the nineties and today their aspirations and strategies are to encircle russia because of the natural benefits of warsaw pact russia no longer the world becomes unipolar. the existence of the warsaw pact did not fire a single shot in europe and there was no warsaw pact war. in the fall of 2000, the belgrade regional court heard in absentia a criminal case against those who ordered the bombing of yugoslavia. i was the chairman of the collegium of the supreme court in belgrade sentenced clinton blair and others besides them to 20 years in prison french president jacques chirac german chancellor gerhardgerröder us secretary of state madeleine albreid nato javier savana commander-in-chief of alliance forces in europ

falling apart and there was fighting in bosnia and kosovo in croatia in serbia that we would ever see milosevic in the dark. we did see that happen. things can change, therefore, we should never believe that prosecutions will not occur. and why are they important? they are under the security council's jurisdiction precisely because they are a piece making measure. we have worried so often about the fact that russians don't seem to know what's going on in their country. they don't seem to know what this war has meant for the ukrainians. trials are a way for them to learn about that. it means that is away from russia itself to rebuild after this terrible conflict, we should never give up on war crimes. a w senior political analyst melinda crane, helping us break down everything that president lensky just said. thank you so much . now german chancellor will have saw it says among the world leaders marking the 1st anniversary of the war in ukraine by making an address about the conflict speaking today. charlotte's said that russia has failed in its war aims, and that he pledge that there'll be no l

do you remember milošev in particular?ny way to avoid all of this but none the less justice. she can be late, but she usually gets it. i am absolutely sure that putin is worried about this, but it worries the russian elites even more. i know that among at least many of them there is such hysteria about what we will do next. and who is responsible? and how will they get us, and how in general with our assets in the west, will we even be allowed to go to the west? and will we ever see this event, but we will either be somewhere around moscow, and it is still unknown with what degree of security we will exist , and this all sits deep enough in the heads and more and more comes in and i am absolutely sure that the release of this tape about putin's conversation and just let it be absolutely not accidental, it is also a normal part of the investigation, but it is also an element of additional pressure on putin, when they point fingers at him and say putin, in fact, we know who you are, we know what are you guilty of, but we don

probably refer here to the practice of the same court in the former yugoslavia when the same sloboda milosevic was at the beginning of the creation of this court, he still held leadership positions, but ended his life in a cell waiting for his case to be heard by the tribunal over the former leaders of hitler's germany, the so-called nuremberg trial they also began to prepare at the height of the war in 1942 , the court was fully operational in november 1945, six months after the surrender of germany, then 24 people were on the dock: nazi politicians , military propagandists, deputies emphasized the hague tribunal for putin and lukashenka has sateli make of nuremburg natalya kulyk-facto ictv the only news today a delegation of the nato parliamentary assembly visited the kyiv region back in november this instance adopted a resolution and recognized russia as a terrorist state today and the president of the cassembly julgario miami her colleagues were finally convinced of the correctness of her policy , because she saw the consequences of the russian atrocity up close, after seeing the president

but you, the thought of leader milosevic was engaged in ethnic cleansing, and that bombing would prevent a refugee crisis. so natal decided to intervene and bomb serbia for $78.00 days. belgrave still says cover is a part of serbia. i'm housed in that of the breakaway provinces. unilateral declaration is a violation of international law. more than 100. you in countries including security council members, russia and china. i refuse to recognize the sofa in states. we heard from our managed nevada of serbian american jonas and historian, who says the cause of this issue has always been a way for the west to pressure service. customer has always been away for to where the pressure serbia, the used to pretend to offer something in return, you know, your membership or, or be a prospect of a possible eventual theoretical your membership or investments. or, you know, some kind of carrot, so to speak. and ever since last year, when the conflict in ukraine escalated, they've been offering nothing but the stick. they're basically at this point saying, unless you recognize goes into everything we t

on this day, 21 years ago, the ex-president of his slavia and serbia, slobodan milosevic, was brought before the hague tribunal and accused of crimes against humanity, genocide and war crimes committed during the conflict in bosnia and kosovo, in our story you will see how high-ranking officials were previously tried for aggression against another country and its people and you will also learn about the prospects of creating a tribunal for putin, the first attempts to create a tribunal for the leadership of the aggressor state were after the first world war against kaiser wilhelm ii of germany, by the decision of the treaty of versailles, he was declared a war criminal, but the tribunal against wilhelm was never held, the government of the netherlands refused to extradite him , the court was more successful over the leadership of germany after the second world war , a list of 24 nazis was prepared for the process, including the ministers of foreign affairs and armaments of the economy, as well as the chiefs of the main directorate of imperial security and the wehrmacht headquarters, o

insist on the creation of a special tribunal, as it was in nuremberg or as it was in yugoslavia with milosevicttitude of the western partners to this initiative? well, i'm not just an acquaintance, it all started in the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe, which we worked on , which resolutions were adopted by the tribunal. that's right, and the tribunal for the crime of aggression against putin, lukashenka and everyone, all these gangs, and that's why of course we are promoting this topic at the munich security competition - it is important to raise well , the difficulty here is that we understand with you that before the nuremberg scrapper tribunal was held, berlin was taken and imagine the nuremberg tribunal. when hitler is in berlin , the jewish chancellery would certainly be difficult. we have a certain problem with this at the moment . only a question of justice and responsibility for criminals, but it is also a question of political pressure, so that the laurels as well as in which one are there and where is he going to zimbabwe? we see that when he goes to the ministry of f

at the west claim that yugoslav leader milosevic was engaged in ethnic cleansing and that bombing would prevent 8 refugee crisis. so ne, who decided to intervene and bombed serbia for 78 days belgrade still insists cause of i was a part of serbia and has denounced the breakaway provinces, unilateral declaration as a violation of international nearly a 100 un countries including security council members, russia and china refused to recognize the self proclaimed state. here's how people who live through those events have described their feelings when they learned that their homeland was being divided into 2 o 4 minutes. that was the said, his day of my life. losing a part of my country. even to this day, regardless of them colon and then abandoned kassawa. i see it is an integral part of the republic of serbia. i think it so one big propaganda campaign from the west knowing that this land is very rich in minerals and or, i think it's all about just grabbing what they need. peace is not present to this day, nor do i think we will have it until corso is recognized as serbian territory. life

well, i already spoke to jeffrey, nice a professor of law and formerly prosecutor of slowed down milosevic at the international criminal tribunal for the former yugoslavia. now, he explained the important distinction between crimes against humanity and war crimes, with no difficulty improving the commission of these crimes against putin. why? because these were his soldiers doing what he wanted. and if people are silly un office to say, oh, you got to prove that chain of command will is blinding the obvious because putin's got a television, he could see exactly what we could see. and if he, these people weren't doing what he wanted them to do, he would have said, of nash brought them up, prosecuted them for committing crimes. he didn't, he didn't, because they were doing what he wanted, and he's a guilt him. now long carrying prime minister victor over his warning against more weapons being sent to ukraine. he's saying that europe is already and directly at war with russia, hungary borders ukraine, and is also heavily reliant on russian energy import. despite being a member of the european

hanging at the hands of the americans, but he did not take seriously the prediction of sloboda on milosevicmathematics also warned of nato bombing of sovereign yugoslavia his amazing formulas intertwine space and time geographically the coordinates and exact dates for him are the key to the secrets of the past and the future, this is the most obvious example. 1941 date known to everyone at exactly 4:00 in the morning fascist, germany attacked the soviet union citizens and citizens of the soviet union today, june 22 and 4:00 in the morning , without declaring war, the irman troops attacked our country. june 22, 1941 is also not accidental may 9, 1945. this is the first world war, and internal. 22 - these are two deuces or multiplying each other give a four in the east in some countries it is considered the number of death. the number and goes along the curve, which he read. the invasion of the hordes of europe, united by hitler, will claim 27 million lives of our citizens , last for almost four years and end in berlin in ruins. that's four plus one plus four four days. he deciphers victories

was caused by the economic meltdown of yugoslavia which vomited up radovan karadzic and slobodan milosevicand franjo turgeman the same way we vomited a trump the same way that after. 1929 in weimar you vomited up these figures around hitler their buffoonish killers and until address that social inequality, john ralston saul calls the corporate coup dayton's slow motion that took place in the united states. we're not going to free ourselves from this march. a kind of christian fascism and unfortunately. the democratic party in the biden administration cannot themselves from corporate money, and they don't give where they give that money, they expect something back. i mean, of course, they write the legislation so that inequality goes all the way back to aristotle. i mean, aristotle said that when you social inequality of that on, the kind of scale that we now have, the only two options are tyranny or revolution. and all for revolution. but i don't i don't see the forces of revolution. i think the left been so systematically weakened. going all the way back to wilson in the twenties but also

joined by jeffrey nice and merced escalation, professor of law and formerly prosecutor of salva milosevic shit, the international criminal tribunal for the former yugoslavia. so you listening to us vice president common higher says remarks at immune security conference in the biden administration, making the formal conclusion that russia has committed crimes against humanity in ukraine. why is this important, and what is the difference between crime against humanity and war crimes? is important because it announces a clear statement via formidable part of the alliance. so helping ukraine, that crimes had been committed. it says by the federation of russia, while he should be saying, and i think what it means is putin. what surprising is it? it hasn't been said a great deal earlier. it was clear as could be after a week or so. was this terrible law that there were crimes being committed to both kinds war crimes and crimes against humanity will crimes be in crimes as a large scale nature committee. as part of a panel policy, which ob, breaches of various parts of the geneva conventions. and

i was just wondering if you happen to see about it, the milosevic.an respond to the caller, but also, can you talk about what is in that inflation reduction act to address concerns that people have, that some of these green energy policies are not practical? people say they are not enough charging stations, or electric vehicles need charging too frequently for long-distance trips, things like that. guest: absolutely. i want to mention to everett, he lives in one of the most beautiful parts of the country, grand junction. to me, that is worth protecting. he has a point about recycling old wind turbine blades, batteries, things like that. there was an announcement the other day, a major wind turbine manufacturing plant in iowa is now starting to recycle those huge blades. it is a tough thing to do but we will figure it out. when it comes to batteries, we have had numerous investments that have gone into companies that recycle the materials that go into batteries, to essentially pull them out and reuse them, which is a good thing. as far as your questio

i was just wondering if you happen to see about it, the milosevic.an respond to the caller, but also, can you talk about what is in that inflation reduction act to address concerns that people have, that some of these green energy policies are not practical? people say they are not enough charging stations, or electric vehicles need charging too frequently for long-distance trips, things like that. guest: absolutely. i want to mention to everett, he lives in one of the most beautiful parts of the country, grand junction. to me, that is worth protecting. he has a point about recycling old wind turbine blades, batteries, things like that. there was an announcement the other day, a major wind turbine manufacturing plant in iowa is now starting to recycle those huge blades. it is a tough thing to do but we will figure it out. when it comes to batteries, we have had numerous investments that have gone into companies that recycle the materials that go into batteries, to essentially pull them out and reuse them, which is a good thing. as far as your questio

the investor played a key role in the dramatic overthrow of president sloboda by milosevic.dations. he took an active position in the preparation and conduct of the rose revolution in georgia, the tulip revolution in kyrgyzstan, the orange revolution and the euromaidan in ukraine , it is also believed that it was 40 years that funded the protests in belarus in 2020 personal soros's fortune is estimated at almost 7 billion dollars. yes, yes, yes, because , of course, here he speaks so simply about a person. yes, being a teenager, being in budapest occupied here is a teenager. then he became george soros, he took an active part in the ss detachments to capture jews and deport them to constitutional camps. this is about morality. so we are talking about it then, but i want to pay attention now. not even for that, because uh, i don't want to say that right now, it's too far to go into history and condemn a teenager of 13-14 years old, what he could do, let's say, and what he did in order to survive let's get this side. we're still- although this in itself is probably shocking, t

around the world, the investor played a key role in the dramatic overthrow of president sloboda by milosevicoundations. he took an active position in the preparation and implementation of the rose revolution in georgia, the tulip revolution in kyrgyzstan, the orange revolution and the euro maidan in ukraine , it is also believed that it was soros who financed the protests in belarus in 2020. soros’s personal fortune is estimated at almost 7 billion. yes, because, of course, here it also simply speaks of a person. yes, as a teenager being in budapest i occupied as well. here is a teenager, e dershvartsev, who later became george soros, he took an active part in the ss detachments to capture jews and deport them to constitutional camps. this is about morality. so we are talking about it then, but i want to pay attention now. not even to that, because uh, i don't want to say that now, to go too far into history and condemn a teenager of thirteen. fourteen years old, what could he do, let's say. and what did he do to survive let's get this side. we although this in itself is probably shocking, t

how did it end for milosevic?n is very difficult with budget revenues, including in january, but our answer is, firstly, the state of the economy is divided by the same western experts about our growth this and next year. it is clear that western experts should not relax at all. i weapons flew in a second. when you speak, of course. there is concern about the economic situation, it is clear that we will continue to be pressed, but caution will not hurt either, of course, any actions that will worsen it. the quality of life of russians needs to be approached with extreme caution, this also applies, for example, to retailers, yes, if you now start to nightmare them rudely speaking of which, nothing good will happen here. moreover, we see that hundreds of hundreds of companies are transferring their assets right now due to the past year, including management and foreign jurisdictions in russia, but there is work to be done. here i absolutely agree with you. we have the opportunity to contact turkey right now with the

covered the war in the former yugoslavia with the church embracing ethnic nationalism and slobodan milosevic. we have to draw the distinction, which great theologians do, between the institution and the christian call. my father was pretty much pushed out of the church for his stance on lgbtq rights, which was not a popular position to take public leaf. host: you graduated from harvard to 30 school in 83 but did not become an ordained minister until 2014. why the lag? chris: you are approved for ordination before you go to divinity school, so it's just a matter of going before that committee once you finish the academic work, which i did and telling that committee what your call is. the traditional call as i'm going to be a pastor of the presbyterian church and i said i'm going to go to el salvador and be a freelance journalist and cover the war. there was a long silence and they said we don't ordained journalists. i remember my dad was seated outside. at that point, a parish minister for 30 or 40 years. there must've been disappointment, but he said you are ordained to write. and i came bac