started cbs, david sarnoff, the greatest of the foreign correspondents pagddy chaefsky conditioned milton berle and me she said to me, listen, if that's what they want to do, who am i to say? that's my mother. that should tell you everything. >> "all in the family" for a moment. i'm a little younger. >> are you? >> i didn't see the originals, but i loved the show. i remember the ing episode where archie bunker repeatedly used the word fag. why use that word so many times in one episode? >> came from the fact that that was the word that one would hear in the schoolyard, around the subway, you didn't have to know the people who were talking if they passed you in the street and you might hear the word. so it wasn't like we were reaching for something. it was the culture and the vocabulary. and we used them. >> did that show open a conversation and a dialogue in this country that hadn't happened before? >> you know what i've learned? every episode for people opened the conversation. because i go through life hearing people tell me all the time, and afterwards we talked we talked, we talked, my fath

tyler perry gets flack for hasgs that milton berle done. >> put on a dress. >> he has done some great work that some people ignore because he put on a dress. being funny is not always the most dignified. what am i trying to say? >> here's what they say about you as a standup. >> i love madea. madea always brings it back. >> they said, what was interesting about you. you were perfectly tailored, you would go on stage and you are within your own body. there was a kind of elegance. what was coming out of your mouth was the most, funniest and most satirical. you would go right to the edge of where you can go with comedy. but doing it in a guy who was very dignified. is that true? >> the dignified thing, people dress me for the most part. people are paid money to dress me. dignity, that is my character. >> tell me where you think this movie brings you in terms of the future. you will soon be 50. >> yes, i will be 50. which means i am old. i'm actually old. the only time 50 is young is when you die at 50. or you are dating cher. [laughter] cher got another young boy. >> let her have her fun

he was up against, in the sunday night lineup, i think it was, he and milton berle were up competing with one another, and fulton sheen won. and he came up to the microphone and he said, first i would like to thank my writers, matthew mark, luke and john. [laughter] that's what i mean about being winsome, you know. but i mean, i founded the acta acton institute to promote these ideas. i'm not interested in promoting myself. i think in that age, sheen, that that one person, spokesperson, was an important thing. i think we need a much more diverse thing now institutionally, and we need a lot of voices saying a lot of things. i don't want to leave this planet and have the work i've done disappear. we're already talking about succession planning in our organization so that the next generation, that this institution will go on. last june, we had 1,000 students attend a four-day seminar offering 120 courses. they came from 80 countries with 60 teachers, mentors at this. and next year, we'll have more than that, because they recommend others. and our -- one of our facebook pages, poverty cu