especially in milwaukee county, supreme court race and others.not matter to the national audience, but it will make a difference. mark: i think of all the primaries, this is the place with the highest profile down ballot races. ms. opoien: that is absolutely true. it will not flip the balance of the state supreme court, but start to make a huge difference. it is symbolic in that way. yes. john: thank you so much. coming up, we talked to two professional pro-lifers about donald trump's controversial comments yesterday. right after this. ♪ mark: after donald trump's comments yesterday, the women who received a legal abortion should be punished, it started conversations among the community. here talk about it and the impact is the president and ceo of concerned citizens of america. and we have a ted cruz order in our studio. ladies, thank you both for joining me. we will start with you here in wisconsin. do you have a sense of how donald trump's comments will play with these communities? >> we have a lot of concern. so, this is why we are so excited

we're looking at turnout, of course, in milwaukee county in dane county which is madison, and green bay17%. 17% green bay, and 61%. president obama won big last time. senator sanders should have a good night. will it be a big, big night? he needs big upsets right now. and without a big upset, we're going to see a very long, protracted, but secretary clinton will continue to accumulate delegates as well. >> paul? >> i'm not at all sure that the tower of damage is hurting him. >> right. >> hurting trump. it doesn't mean that he wins. i went back and looked at all the previous primaries. he consistently, mr. trump, consistently hits between 35 and 45 state after state after state. really interesting. very little, actually, regional differences. now, he may not win, but until he gets below 35, the bigger problem is this. this is in the exit polling. over a third of republicans, republicans in wisconsin primary today, say if trump is the nominee, i can't support him. guess what, the same percentage says if cruz is the nominee, they can't support him, either. this is a party coming apart. tha

next is milwaukee county. in theory, this should be good for donald trump. he's been successful in areas where white voters live near more diverse communities. but, wisconsin's racial divides are much more stark than in other parts of the country. in the milwaukee journal senathnell broke down marquette polling data from inside milwaukee county and found this. they found that trump has a negative 28% favorableility sco there. that's terrible. the third, seventh, and eighth congressional districts, those could be more fertile territory for donald trump tomorrow. these are the types of rural, working class whites that boosted trump in ohio. and in michigan, these tended to be lower education levels. that's been the formula for trump so far. finally, there is dane county. this has the state capitol, the university of wisconsin, madison. if john kasich can do anything in wisconsin tomorrow, this is where he's going to find his support. right in and around madison. now, polls in wisconsin are going to close at nine o'clock p.m. eastern tomorrow night and you can

especially from the county chairman of milwaukee county.s an icon to conservatives everywhere for her unapologetic support of conservative values. candidates, and causes. she believes in the sanctity of the constitution, and in the value of preserving liberties for future generations. she is an advocate to the principles which made this nation great, and will continue to make this nation great, which we all hope and pray, we all hope and pray will make america great again. she is an advocate, she is an advocate on behalf of donald dedication to his preserving and expanding the american dream, preserving and , asnding the american dream our nation confronts the threat of terrorism, joblessness, throughout the entire country. sarah palin and donald trump, both know that our nation can thriveese challenges and like never before. give, not only a warm milwaukee county welcome, but most importantly it wisconsin welcome to the former governor of alaska and the individual that the conservative movement ,oves to call our very own sarah palin. [appl

. >> joining us now with reaction is milwaukee county sheriff,d c. welcome to you both.want to start with you. joining a gang is like joining a family, as if she would know. is that why people join gangs? >> tucker, i'm still trying to get my head around this. joining gang is like joining a family. mrs. bill clinton is totally disconnected if life in the black community. she has a misperception about our intelligence level. she thinks we're some lower form of intelligence to think because we don't have family experience to join a gang. why didn't she say make better lifestyle choices. if you want to join something, join a church. join the boy scouts or girl scouts. how about the boys clubs and girls clubs. to sit up there and suggest that we -- that's dysfunctional culture, gang activity. for her to sit up there and embrace this as if it's something that's socially acceptable in the black community, this stuff ought to be rejected. it ought to be shunned and shamed by the black community. the reason why there's no family structure in the black community, she should polic

milwaukee county police arrested 24-year-old and a 19-year-old for assaulting allegedly a 12-year-old girl. one of the suspects knew the girl's family. >> this can be one of the worst type of calls a police officer in any department has to deal with. >> we are told he took the girl from her home in d.c. without her parents' permission to an apartment he shared with the other suspect in virginia. investigators say they sexually assaulted the girl then took her back home. the men were arrested on wednesday in montgomery county but will likely face charges in d.c. and virginia. >>> right now the man accused of carjacking an ambulance before george's county is in court, set to be sentenced. we have a news crew in the courtroom and we'll bring you the latest. later in our newscat the popes >> first up, the ends of an era, a spoiler alert for you "american idol" crowned its 15th and final winner last night. it was a put of an upset. trent har mop took it over la porsche renee. who can forget about those owho didn't place in the top five. does jennifer hudson ring a bell? don't get me wrong,

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milwaukee county, prince from this one t. good part about this, it's moving very, very quickly. it's moving apt 50 miles per hour. because of that forward progression, we are seeing winds at 50 to 60 miles with it. you see this line right now heads up for strong winds in your area, also in through the southerland area, expect this heavier rain and the wind we have that delay here. the back edge is off towards the west. it should be through right around dvenlth around the kettering region. we have seen lightning. we have seen hail with this. hail covering the grounds if some spots. this is all moving off towards the east. the back edge very, very quickly, will be moving on through the area, it's all a part of this upper level system moving tu. it's very cold aloft. how cold? cold enough back towards snowshoe, west virginia. >> that itself the cold air we got moving in. here's one shower we got, coming tu d.c. right now. there is another band back to the west. not quite as worried oobtd this one. this should stay down around fredericksburg. it's something to watch here. behind thi

for their thoughts, deneen borelli from the cary review as is milwaukee county sheriff david clark.emost, he does have a right to say what he wants, right? freedom of speech? >> he absolutely does have a right to voice his own views and his opinions, and he should not be punished by espn which, by the way, is owned by disney which is a very progressive company, deirdre. and they actually recently threatened to "america live" i have production -- move movie production from the state of georgia because of the religious liberties bill. so very hypocritical, and i think there's also a huge double standard here. deirdre: sheriff, i want to ask you from a security standpoint, that is one of your areas of specialty, how do you see this transgender issue? is it a threat? curt schilling said, you know, would you want your children -- which i understand -- in the same room as an adult who -- what is your take on this security only? >> well, you know, this thing is kind of interesting because, you know, we're talking about .3% of the population. when is the last time we had something that invo

here with reaction, milwaukee county sheriff david clark, executive director of the new york civil rightsoalition, mike myers and trial attorney, political commentator, eric guster. sheriff, first, i had the honor of being with you this week and you got the law enforcement man of the year award. congratulations to you, my friend. as you hear this, i'm thinking, do they know anything? do they have any clue why they're even there? >> no, sean. that's the idiocy of the left. look. here's the thing. the gop process to select a candidate is in turmoil right now. shame on the party insiders, the donor class and party elites for letting it get to this. it's disintegrating into irrelevancy. they're staring defeat november electoral defeat right in the face. it's not too late. the time is running out. look, here's a mistake they're making on the gop side within the party. this is not about donald trump. if they think by just getting trump out of the way they'll have clear sailing ahead, they are fooling themselves. the left would do this and will do this . >> this is front runner status, if it's c

in medicine in milwaukee counties, second to to ted cruz. 18 delegates to the statewide wiber but the remaining 42 go to the winner of each of the state's congress a districts and that's where kasich has been focusing his attention. join mg we now former governor of wisconsin, scott mccowen. good to see you. >> good to be with you. and welcome to wisconsin, chris. >> thank you. it's great to be here. i had a chance to speak to another former governor, tommy thompson, yesterday about kasich's plan here in wisconsin. let me play if you whfor you wh say. >> john kasich is going to surprise a lot of people on tuesday. >> best case scenario? >> i think we got a very good shot at second congressional district, fourth congressional district, shot at the third and the first and sixth. >> you think he can do better than three or four delegates? >> i think we're hoping to get six. >> and if you get six, what does it mean for the campaign going forward? >> it means the campaign is going forward one or without. we're going to go to the convention. >> so i'm curious if you agree with that assessme

milwaukee county sheriff david clarke is with me now. sheriff, welcome back. what do you make first and foremost of that exchange? >> first of all, i continue to be insulted that the media continues to go al sharpton as if he's a go-to guy, and that you have to get by him to secure the black vote. look, we have a kaleidoscope of views in the black community. it's small but growing. the vote remains monolithic but the fact is al sharpton is a charletain and doesn't know what he's talking about, he doesn't speak for this black man and this black man's vote isn't going to anybody he endorses anyway. i thought he was badgering her toward the end. deirdre: former new york mayor michael bloomberg, there are a lot of leaders who did not include him in conversations for, i guess, i'm assuming, beliefs similar to yours. >> well, they still continue to roll back his way when they want to get what's going on in the black community. i thought the finger-pointing he did and grabbing the mic and shoving it back in her face was wrong. not going to make a huge deal out of tha

in a place like milwaukee county where it is split between sanders and clinton, it's going to matter going to be hanging on every word. i think both of them are going to try to define the election one way or the other. sanders is trying to talk about the ideas and clinton trying to talk about who is prepared to lead. >> does it matter that she's decided to come back here? how much does showing up matter in a state like wisconsin? >> i think it does matter. i think especially in milwaukee she does have a lot of support. i would say far more in milwaukee than madison. >> fire up that base. >> get out that vote. she can win over voters here and get them to the polls. >> give me your guest. percentage of turnout on tuesday? >> i think statewide it will be over 40%. >> it could approach a record. >> yeah. >> i've heard 2 million potentially. >> i think so. because we just talked about the democratic side. republicans are going to be coming out soon, too. i got mailers. i was a democratic leader and i got mailers from ted cruz, three of them so far. they're really ramping up support. >> a

cruz and john kasich attended the milwaukee county fish fry last night. cruz along with the governor who endorsed him, scott walker, of course, donald trump sent sarah palin to speak on his behalf. nbc's kerry sanders is in racine, wisconsin. you're up and at them for us. what do we expect to hear from donald trump today? >> i think that we're probably going to hear him talk again about abortion. let's go through the questions and the answers that he's given. first of all, as you noted in the interview with chris matthews he said that if a woman participated in illegal abortion that she should face some sort of punishment. then on friday donald trump said that the current laws concerning abortion should remain intact but then in an sfwinterview wit cbs "face the nation" he says he sees abortion as murder. and then his spokeswoman made a clarification saying that he meant to say that the law should remain intact only until he becomes president. and so you see this shifting line back and forth on a very contentious issue in our country. we know since the ro

all eyes are on the county near milwaukee. bill, what about that county?ay, it must be wisconsin. this is ruby red republican territory for republicans winning the state you need to get votes here. this is where ted cruz want to run up the vote. these three, which surrounds to the west and north of milwaukee, that's where you go to win if you're a republican. mitt romney did this in 2012. he's in green. look how it shades in. mccain four years prior, he won the state. look how it shades in this part of the state. watch here for cruz, possibly to do well. if he does, trump has to run up the numbers in upstate county. this is the university of wisconsin here in madison. if john kasich is going to come in wisconsin tonight and take a delegate or two or more, look for him to do well in that part of this state. but we're watching the southeast right around lake michigan to tell us how wisconsin will go tonight. >> bill, thanks. >>> the big question, are we headed towards a contested republican convention? right now, donald trump leads the delegate pack but he's

here is milwaukee county here. to the west just outside is waukesha. to the north you get washington, then over to lake michigan you will get others. those four counties, watch them. john kasich will hope to do well in dane county, that's the university of wisconsin in madison. we'll see if trump goes purple, are cruz goes tangerine. martha: let's go to wisconsin as voters head to the polls. mike tobin is live at one of the polling locations today. reporter: the wisconsin voters lake shaking it up. sanders seems to love it. >> if we win in new york state, between you and me, i don't want to get hillary clinton more nervous than she already is. she is already under a lot of pressure. we win here in new york state, we are on our way to the white house. reporter: conservative talk radio turned against donald trump in the banger state. the governor endorsed ted cruz. and he's polling poorly among women. that's why he brought out his wife for a rare campaign appearance. >> no matter who you are, a man or a woman, he treats everyone equal. he's a fighter. an

he was a milwaukee county executive so he's popular in the suburbs of milwaukee. going after him in that area i think definitely doesn't help mr. trump much at all. however, remember, wisconsin has the most open primary in the country. you can look down that list, you can choose to vote for a democrat or a republican, it's very, very easy. so going after walker may help donald trump to get some independent and swing voters, especially in the northern and western parts of the state, so it cuts both ways. >> perhaps that's what he's banking on then. explain to us if you would, john, how kasich could finish third tonight but still get more delegates then second place. i think a lot of us find that confusing. >> well, we try to make it complicated. >> you're doing a good job. >> thank you. wisconsin is a winner take most state. so if you win statewide, even by one vote, you get about 18 delegates. there's some floaters in there but basically you get 18 delegates. however, if you win all the congressional districts, you get 24 delegates. this is where it gets interesti

welfare, whiter people tend to vote especially in the ring of fire which are the suburbs around milwaukee countyap expands. it turns out that more people of color and lower income people come out and vote in wisconsin has voted for every democratic nominee since 1988 starting with michael dukakis. host: if she gets the nomination and she is running against useld trump, do you not your radio show as a podium to help democrats defeat donald trump? are you sit on the sidelines? guest: my radio show is not predicated on me being used as a told for the democratic party. i'm a member of the democratic party. i have been for a long time. i don't get my talking points from the party as many conservative hosts do and i am not going to carry water for someone i don't think would be a good president. i don't think ill or would be a good president. she reminds me of richard nixon. she is secretive. she is shifty. i think she is deceptive. she appears to not have any type of soul when it comes to thinking for herself. she is always trying to catch whatever she picks is popular. would picki know she better ju

it is one of a three-some of counties that to the north and west of milwaukee which are pivotal alongwith washington counties which may well foretell what's going to happen tonight. we have spoke to a political science professor who explained why. >> these voters are people who enjoy high incomes, high level of education, they are the people who do well in the international global economy, although everyone in wisconsin has been hurt badly in the last five years of the recession. these counties actually do very well. highly educated and probably not open-minded to trump's brand. >> that analysis seems to be spot on at least according to the unscientific survey of voters we have done here. all seem to be very well read such as eileen. >> this is really hard election and i just felt he was the lesser of all the evils. i just felt from what i was reading and watching that he just seemed like the better one, candidate. >> shep, eileen said she is a democrat but she registered as a republican and voted for ted cruz today. shep, back to you. >> thanks from wakashaw there today. paying for s

coming up next on c-span, ted cruz and john kasich speaking to the republican party of milwaukee countya dinner last night in wisconsin. that is followed by washington journal, live with your calls and a look at today's headlines. the presidential candidates are in wisconsin ahead of the primary on tuesday. the republican party hosted a dinner on friday that included presidential candidate, ted cruz. he was introduced by scott walker, who publicly endorsed the texas senator earlier this week. walker: thank you. what a great crowd. welcome to serve all of the best fish fry in the entire country. .t is good to be close to home good to see you sheriff, i feel safe already with david clark here in the front row. great to be here, i will spend a couple minutes telling you a few things. i have a question to begin, how many of you think wisconsin is better off than it was five years ago? [applause] that is because of all of you. that is because of all of you here tonight. think about it, with all of these national folks. let's give a little commercial about the great state of wisconsin. it is

and wealthier, whiter people tend to vote especially in the ring of fire, the suburbs around milwaukee county. in pedestrian dental races the map expands and it turns out that more people of color and lower income people come out and vote and wisconsin has voted for every democratic nominee since 1988 starting with michael cue kau kis. >> if she gets the nomination and running against donald trump, then do you not use your radio show, the podium that you have to help democrats defeat donald trump? do you sit on the sidelines? >> my radio show isn't predicated on me being used as a tool for the democratic party. i am a member of the democratic party. i have been for a very long time but i don't get any talking points from the party as many conservative hosts do and i'm not going to carry water for someone that i don't think would be a good president. and i don't think hillary clinton would be a good president. in a lot of ways she he minds me of richard nixon some i think she's seek ty, shifty, i think she's deceptive. she appears to not have any type of soul when it comes to thinking for hers

. >>> live tonight on c-span, the republican party of milwaukee county dinner. ohio governor john kasich scheduled to speak at 8:30 eastern and texas senator ted cruz at 9:30. and this weekend on c-span's news makers, david mcintosh, who heads the club for growth, his group has endorsed ted cruz for president and is running tv ads critical of donald trump. news makers is on c-span sunday at 10:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. eastern. >>> this weekend the c-span cities tour hosted by our charter communications capable partners takes to you long beach, california, to explore the history and literary culture of this port city, located just south of los angeles. on book tv learn about women's contributions to the world war ii effort from jerry shipski, author of "rosie the riveter in long beach". >> when they were looking to build a plant to reduce aircraft which they thought we would need in world war ii, they picked long beach because steps away we have a wonderful airport that was founded in 1923. it was one of the first airports that had a takeoff and landing in different

. >>> live tonight on c-span -- the republican party of milwaukee county dinner. ohio governor john kasich scheduled to speak at 8:30 eastern and texas senator ted cruz at 9:30. and this weekend on c-span's "newsmakers," david mcintosh, who heads the club for growth, his group has endorsed ted cruz for president and is running tv ads critical of donald trump. "newsmakers" is on c-span sunday at 10:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. eastern. >>> i am a history buff. i do enjoy seeing the fabric of our country and how things -- just how they work and how they're made. >> i love american history tv. the presidency. american artifacts. they're fantastic shows. >> i had no idea they did history. that's probably something i'd really enjoy. >> and with american history tv, it gives you that perspective. >> i'm a c-span fan. >>> the supreme court last week heard oral argument in a case over whether employees of religious groups should be able to access birth control through their employer-sponsored health insurance. the 2010 health care law guarantees women access to birth control. th

he won virtually every wisconsin county, except milwaukee. sanders gained a number of delegates but still trails clinton in the delegate count by a wide margin. >>> on tuesday, britain awarded a medal to a very special dog. she was recognized for serving bravely in military conflicts. debora patta reports. >> reporter: trained to sniff out explosives, this 12-year-old dog went on hundreds of missions in iraq with the u.s. marines. the success was extraordinary. >> luke, left. soldier died on her watch over six years. gunnery sergeant chris wilmington served two tours with luke and said she is one of the boys. >> i made a home with her locating locating ieds. >> reporter: they were inseparable as they worked together clearing the homemade bomb set by the taliban. but in march 2012, her career came to a huge end. a blast blew off one of her front legs. they say she saved his life so many times so he had to save her. he never left her side as she was rushed into emergency surgery with severe burns to her chest, neck, and head. he even slept by h

milwaukee. there are three counties around milwaukee where there are staunch republican demographics and some ofhe greatest turnout in the nation. they started off with not a favorable view of donald trump. and after this week of controversy, comments on abortion, the cory lieuen do you ski fall out, those are sticking. women said, look, we were already iffy on donald trump, now we're more so. moving here to madison, we have been talking to union voters. this is a more progressive community that the -- the conversation here is bernie sanders or hillary clinton. and what we're seeing is an interesting split between union leadership, which would like to endorse hillary clinton, and then the rank and file everyday workers who say bernie sanders all the way, he's our guy. and it seems that latter perspective is taking the day. there have been three polls out this weekend and every poll, bernie sanders who had been down by double digits is now not only ahead of hillary clinton, but edging out in front quite a bit, arie. >> tony dokoupil, thanks for the update. and now we go to political analyst and f

welfare, whiter people tend to vote especially in the ring of fire which are the suburbs around milwaukee countyces, the map expands. it turns out that more people of color and lower income people come out and vote in wisconsin has voted for every democratic nominee since 1988 starting with michael dukakis. host: if she gets the nomination and she is running against useld trump, do you not your radio show as a podium to help democrats defeat donald trump? are you sit on the sidelines? guest: my radio show is not predicated on me being used as a told for the democratic party. i'm a member of the democratic party. i have been for a long time. i don't get my talking points from the party as many conservative hosts do and i am not going to carry water for someone i don't think would be a good president. i don't think ill or would be a good president. she reminds me of richard nixon. she is secretive. she is shifty. i think she is deceptive. she appears to not have any type of soul when it comes to thinking for herself. she is always trying to catch whatever she picks is popular. would picki know she

. >> well, with reaction this morning we've got live from wisconsin, milwaukee county sheriff david clarkeu know, he's a guy who didn't start the divide in washington, d.c., between the right and the left, but he certainly has perfected it. >> there was an opportunity and a big swing and a miss by president obama. look, he's disconnected from reality. he doesn't believe any of what he said on "fox news sunday." he came into office with three objectives. one was to destroy american exceptionalism. the next was to obliterate the united states constitution. and the third was to destroy the republican party. now he's done a pretty good job with those three objectives, but he's done nothing else for the american people. we used to be the envy of the world before he became president. but i don't think that that's the case anymore. we're not respected on the world stage. putin doesn't respect him. many of the other leaders, benjamin netanyahu might out of political courtesy say he does, but he doesn't, either. look, the best thing about the obama presidency right now is that it's coming to an end

liberal college town versus hillary clinton's ability to turn out african-american voters in the milwaukee countyt i can think of in the cycle where she is not scheduling a public event. there is no event where we are going to have hillary clinton coming out tonight. she is where? at a fundraiser we believe in manhattan, private fundraiser, on election night. >> we're about to see one of the most extranarily covered election nights. >> so, you know, the 15,000 -- >> that was for you, chuck todd. >> first 15,000 person rally in seattle gets a voiceover on "morning joe." watch what happens when he within a couple miles of here does an event with 15,000 people. >> we even have chuck todd here this morning. >> tonight she's here raising money? >> we knew she wasn't going to be in wisconsin. you think she would be in new york -- >> how much is she going to raise? >> chris cillizza. it's fascinating for hillary clinton. she has been leaving wisconsin, hasn't spent as much time there as traditional candidates would, thinking that, you know, that they need to win that state. and yet, this race is a lot c

remember the type of republican in some of these counties around milwaukee, steve.foits. they have been through the union fights. they are politically active. many of them, and that has fit with folks we have been talking to. conservatives in and around milwaukee, in these counties like waukesha county who say, yeah, i'm paying attention. i know what's going on. you head out into the more rural areas and there's a little less of that which is why you see more trump support in the north and west parts of wisconsin. there's a lot at play. for turnout, there were predictions maybe it would be snowy or rainy, but the weather is perfect. it's chilly but sunny, which obviously helps on a day like today when it's primary day. >> sounds like some good voting weather. hallie jackson in milwaukee. >> let me turn to e.j. dionne, longtime political reporter, now a contributor to the "washington post," and he wrote a very provocative column about the wisconsin race. here's the title. this time it really is the end of trump, really. e.j., with a title like that, we had to get you

counties in wisconsin. what we lost was the republican machine around milwaukee. that's how they won and turned out big numbers. >> barry, you're going to states with a lot of closed primaries. if there was some atmospheric, it would take place in all of the counties. it was around milwaukee where they turned out the machine and big numbers. there's no woman problem -- >> they turned out the people where they live. you're talking about counties that don't have many people there. >> barry -- >> turnout was the same in almost all of the counties. just more people live there. they voted differently than the rest of the state. >> barry, i'm curious, what changed last week that for the first time in ten months we saw them make a mistake and misspeaking? what triggered that other than the faces of the moon? >> i don't know what you're talking about. >> okay. >> well, he said that he wish he hadn't done it. >> amanda, can i get a final thought from you from the ted cruz perspective and then we've got to run. >> yes. i think what is being overlooked is that donald trump ju

waukesha is part of a crucial threesome of counties that bring milwaukee to the north and west. known as the wow counties, home to numerous banking, insurance, high tech, good schools, highly educated and highly compensated. residents here take their civic duty and elections very seriously. >> the reason they're significant, they have 10% of the population, consistently 20% of republican votes come from the wow counties. they have a tradition of volunteer activism, helping republicans in presidential races, gubernatorial races. i think there's a lot of attention on what's going to happen in the wow counties this week. >> reporter: that civic responsibility points out how pivotal those wow counties will play in tonight's primary but in november's general election. >> these counties divide the entire state for the general election in november. if you do not have their full enthusiasm and high turnout for the republican nominees, then they are going to lose that general election, no ifs, ands or buts about it. >> reporter: to that point it's fitting wisconsin is the only primary in

we won 60% of the counties in wisconsin last night, but the suburban counties around milwaukee where the walker machine is turned out a massive number of voters. i congratulate scott walker. but it was scott walker, mitt romney and lindsay graham, these are the people behind the ted cruz campaign right now. six years ago ted cruz wasn't a member of the establishment. now he's decided to crawl if bed with these guys and they're using him to get to donald trump. once they get to the electorate, they'll forget him. >> that's a good strategy. is it going to work in future straits? >> there are no more scott walkers. he's the best in the country. he's mott goinot going to have luxury anymore. >> any time donald trump loses an election, it's always somebody else's fault. there's always someone else to blame. the reality is that donald trump did everything that he possibly could to win in the state of wisconsin. he added the number of stops he was there, he dramatically increased his schedule in the state, he was openly predicting that he was going to win the state, and he failed because th

the three counties outside milwaukee are the most heavily republican and most reliable in the country. there is people there now. it's been a little slower. but they are already on pace to do about 60% turnout. we're at about the halfway point. 40% statewide are what a lot of people are predicting. if 60% turn out here, and this is ted cruz country, this is where the governor did very well in his reelection campaign, it's hard to see even if donald trump does well elsewhere in some of those rural communities that he is able to make up that difference. this turnout, at least on paper, is not good for donald trump fans, guys. >>> you said trump may be shut out of all the delegates. what happens? my feeling is -- it's very interesting. if hillary keeps is close with bernie, i think that's a hillary win. >> she doesn't even need to keep it close to be close in delegates. >> i've heard that with trump, that trump will get blown out. if trump keeps it within a couple points, that's pretty good with trump. but then how do you break down the delegates. >> how can he be within two or three per

waukesha is part of a triad of counties which circle milwaukee to the north and west including the what are known as the wow counties, we spoke to political eye sense professor who explain why. >> these are voters with high income, enjoy high level of education. they are people who do well in the international global economist. although everyone in wisconsin has been hurt badly in the last five years of the recession, these counties actually do very well. they're highly-educated and probably not open-minded to trump's brand. reporter: very unscientific sampling of voters who have cast their ballots here verifies that assessment. here is eileen. >> this is really hard election and i just felt he was the lesser of all the evils. i just felt from what i was reading and watching, that he just seemed like the better one candidate. reporter: she is referring there to ted cruz. she cast herbal lot for ted cruz. she told us she is democrat and registered today as a republican. back to you, in new york, david. david: a lot of those switch overs happening this year. dug, thank you very much. >> t

you've got this sort of conservative talk radio belt in the suburban counties around milwaukee that hase base of never-trumpism. >> and that's where you saw where donald trump went today. to the western part of the state and up north in superior. and those are areas, those are pockets, anti-washington, anti-madison, where he can maybe pick up three or six delegates. >> and craig gilbert had a great piece on this in the journal sentinel. the german and dutch parts of the state. you saw it in iowa, the dutch counties voted against trump. you saw it in michigan, where the dutch counties voted against trump as well. the idea that america's falling apart, that it needs to be meat great again doesn't resonate in places where there's high social cohesion. where the communities are very strong. and wisconsin has a lot of those. >> this is an interesting point. it's been one of the most fascinating trend lines. the degree of social capital. donald trump probably does the worst in highly mormon counties, which of course have incredibly high levels of social capital cohesion. that's a place he's d

i want to show you a few counties. milwaukee. those are right in here.t to go back to the last contest. you will see where romney really swept that area. milwaukee, really going to be important. it is really where the majority of the electorate is. it is expected to go for cruz. the heart of the governor scott walker. we know donald trump has taken him on. governor walker, of course, has outwardly endorsed senator cruz. it will be a very tight race. it will be completely avoided. cruz has spent a lot of time there. it will make our job a little bit more interesting this morning. you can go in as a voter, neil. the clerks actually do not know which one you use until they count. neil: i would give you a free cheat with each ballot. À-letter process to use. thank you. i am are it is starting early. it is going to be a late night. corporate ab version. tweeted this out. some of the state &. donald trump has had a tough time in your state. a lot of the press. i do not think he anticipated what happens. >> donald trump was always going to have, in some ways, a

the southeastern part of the state, kind of where you're broadcasting from today in the counties surrounding milwaukeeternative to keep donald trump from getting the nomination. >> on the democratic side, we see bernie sanders leading. although it's not massive, it's 3 to 5 points. there still remains a kind of real progressive tradition in parts of the state that are very rural. what are the sort of respective strengths for sanders and clinton look like here? >> yeah, actually, the areas where bernie sanders is doing well is a little bit to the west as well, but also really in the area surrounding madison and in madison itself. we obviously have the university of wisconsin here which is a strong population of younger college students, but the rural areas surrounding the madison area have long been very independent, can kind of go either way, and areas where bernie sanders is going to do well. on the converse, hillary clinton is probably going to be at her strongest in milwaukee in a strong urban population center. >> up north, the far northern regions of wisconsin, you have kind of a sort of amazing

popular in the northern counties and the western counties. milwaukee area, not so much.p certainly would like to come out of wisconsin a win, build some momentum for the next two weeks going into that really big contest in new york on the 19th with 95 delegates at stake. but as you pointed out, the polls have suddenly turned against donald trump. that fox business poll, the second poll to show him running ten points behind ted cruz. the other was the marquette poll out earlier in the week. ted cruz ha got the support of wisconsin governor scott walker and hopes to use that leverage to take home most if not all of the 42 delegates here in wisconsin because you could do that if you win by congressional district, then you get the at-large delegates. last night in a big republican event south of milwaukee ted cruz urged voters to abandon donald trump. >> wisconsin is a battleground. the entire country, its eyes are on the great state of wisconsin. nominating donald trump is a train wreck. that's actually not fair to train wrecks. >> reporter: donald trump for his part contin

these are the three counties in and around milwaukee. it is very gop in these counties. this is where we've seen the big push in these counties. this is where we've seen people like ted cruz and donald trump holding their town halls in these counties. i want to bring in one young woman who's just casted her vote. >> thank you. >> you are very welcome. so you are waffling between ted cruz, donald trump -- >> i really didn't waffle. i had considered trump here and there. i like some of the things that he stands for. but i really don't appreciate the way he goes about it and picks on people and i don't like -- i want somebody that has values and can debate well and has -- you know, it is just -- i think ted cruz is definitely the guy that can debate hillary and, you know, come out with a good win. >> obviously donald trump with a rough week last week on his stance on abortion. i'm wondering how did you view what he had to say about that issue? >> i didn't like what he said. and for the first time he did backtrack. he did give that up a little bit. he's also said he was for

he wins milwaukee, he wins in dane county, and he wins up a little bit around green baker appleton.et up in the rural areas that's correct all trump. >> woodruff: but there are suburbs and there are suburbs. are you talking inner suburbs? we know today in the city there's sprawl. >> absolutely. >> woodruff: and there are places where suburbs become almost rural. >> absolutely, and ex-ushes, and ex-urban areas and those places very good for republicans in the past. when you look at the breakdown, the head to head with hillary clinton, he still holds the republican edge in those places but he's way down. he doesn't have the edge that, say, mitt romney had. >> there has been some commentary, even from trump himself, that he is winning because he is transforming the republican lexingtonerate. that's not really happening. if you look at the share of the vote cast by republicans, it is basically the same as it was in 2012. there has not been this big upsurge of democrats and independents and trump has won republicans in every state he has won except missouri. what he has done, jeweledy, i

counties. the suburban areas in milwaukee that are bright red in contrast with deep blue.that will probably go pretty heavily for ted cruz, but it is worth watching us. i think the western part of the state will be interesting for both sides but it will be interesting to see if trump can pick up any support their. the second congressional district around madison, it will be interesting to see if he can pull that one off. john: this is the last question about the gop but have the dynamics changed in the closing hours? is it tightening at all or is ted cruz pulling away? guest: i do think he is pulling away. he's been here a lot and done events in madison, especially for someone not trying to pull off the moderate look. he's got all this establishment support -- can trump pull out the independence and do a little bit of damage? sure. i don't think it's getting any tighter as we get closer to the polls closing. mark: just watching the media there and consuming the media, does the fact the clintons were in the state earlier in the week and then came back, they are not putting