marcelia from milwaukee county.g at a and you consistently heard and you know this from your time on the trial, they wanted to pick a candidate who is best positioned to beat donald trump in november. but a lot of back and forth over what type of candidate is that? is that frankly a white individual from the midwest or is that somebody who is an individual of color who is able to go into places like milwaukee county where marcelia is from. look back to the 2016 election. across the state of wisconsin, voter turnout dropped by 3%, but in specifically milwaukee county, the most diverse and democratic city in the state it dropped by 10% because as marcellia would tell you and other individuals across milwaukee county would tell you, the democratic party didn't do what it took to connect with those voters. that's why you see a grassroots organization named block, as well as michael bloomberg in milwaukee county really turning an eye on making the case that, you know, it is important to reach out to individuals of color

>> milwaukee county, my area, the area i represent. the voter id requirement obviate the ability for people to exercise that right and so we think that that was one element that contributed tremendously. >> when it comes to the other elements, for the democratic nominee, what did they need to do differently than hillary clinton did? >> it is important to remember you have to to ask people to vote for you. you cannot take it for granted. certainly in 2008 and 2012 we saw barack obama in wisconsin within 24 hours from when the polls closed. i think hillary clinton, a great candidate, was advised by her team that the metrics demonstrated that she did not need to come there and i think that that may have contributed as well. and you don't get votes for free. you have to spend money and convince people that your program is going to benefit them. in addition to that, we can't negate the impact of the russian influence campaign that targeted african-americans in particular. >> in wisconsin? >> in wisconsin, targeted them to suppress the vote.

so we asked my colleague to go to milwaukee county. five african-american voters to discuss how they're feeling about the 2020 election so far including the lack of candidates of color still in this race. >> i think we've relied on identity politics in the past. we've relied on how to attract black voters to get a black candidate, how to attract women voters is to get a woman candidate. folks are really struggling. they want someone that's going to raise wages, they want someone that's going to address student debt and affordable housing and affordable schooling and prison reform. some of our minority candidates weren't speaking about those issues. that goes to show no one is going to vote for you because they don't look like you or identify with you, they're going to vote with you if you fight on their behalf. >> the candidate that can beat the current president. the important issues and qualifications now, who can beat the current candidate or the current president. we have kind of pushed aside the other candidates and qualifications

decision that prevents them from purging over 200,000 wisconsinites, a quarter of them coming from milwaukee county, from the roles. host: president trump winning wisconsin in 2016, back in milwaukee on tuesday. here is what he had to say. >> to lift up forgotten communities that need investment the most, we have created opportunity zones. jobs and investments are pouring into 120 newly designated opportunity zones in wisconsin, and ron johnson and tim scott helped. they are doing great. and for decades, politicians ran for office promising to defend wisconsin workers, but then they went to washington and lined their pockets with special interest cash as they shipped your jobs and dreams to countries thousands of miles away, countries you have never even heard of. host: congresswoman? guest: [laughter] this is really laughable. host: he has a strong economy. but it is now softening i am not -- softening. i am not going to talk opportunity zones because there are not guard rails to make sure they benefit the people who live there and not just benefit the developers. smarting from the president comin

[booing] year, thep: last sanctuary county of milwaukee released an illegal alien criminal with multiple charges for sexual assault of a child. think about that, of children. and they arelarge searching all over. he is looking for another victim. he is allowed to go from your sanctuary city. in the city of madison, police

we asked ous to go to milwaukee county. >> we know how to attract black voters to get a black candidate attract women voters to get a woman candidate. but they want people who will address student debt and student housing and immigration reform and prison reform. some of my minority candidates weren't speaking about those issues, and that just goes to show they're not going to vote for you because they don't look like you, they're going to vote for someone who will do what they want. >> now who can be the current candidate for president? that's sad to me that we've kind of pushed aside the other candidates and their qualifications. i agree initially, people were excited about the wide scope of candidates, those of color, though that's not always the key, but at least we have some choices. now i think our voice has been limited. >> in milwaukee, it didn't get the turnout they needed or wanted in 2016 to win the state. that's one of the reasons hillary clinton lost wisconsin, she didn't come here. does it make a difference in terms of who the candidate is with getting the vote out? >> it

decision that prevents them from purging over 200,000 wisconsinites, a quarter of them coming from milwaukee county the roles. host: president trump winning wisconsin in 2016, back in milwaukee on tuesday. here is what he had to say. >> to lift up forgotten communities that need investment the most, we have created opportunity zones. jobs and investments are pouring into 120 newly designated opportunity zones in wisconsin, and ron johnson and tim scott helped. they are doing great. and for decades, politicians ran for office promising to defend wisconsin workers, but then they went to washington and lined their pockets with special interest cash as they shipped your jobs and dreams to countries thousands of miles away, countries you have never even heard of. host: congresswoman? guest: [laughter] this is really laughable. host: he has a strong economy. but it is now softening i am not -- softening. i am not going to talk opportunity zones because there are not guard rails to make sure they benefit the people who live there and not just benefit the developers. smarting from the president coming in a

[booing] last year, the place i like, the sanctuary county of milwaukee, released an illegal alien criminalith the multiple charges for sexual assault of a child, think of that of children. he is now at large, they are searching all over, and he is looking for yet another victim. they are searching all over. allowed to go from your sanctuary city. and the city of madison, police arrested an illegal alien for sexual assaults, after authorities released him he committed violent battery only to be released one more time, they are looking for him again. isn't that nice? [booing] so the same illegal alien that was arrested for a third time in september and charged with multiple sexual assaults, including sexual assault of a child, now that criminal is once again in wisconsin jail, and i call your left-wing officials to stop the madness and to work with ice to ensure he is deported the hell back home. get him out of our country. [cheering] democrats stand for crime, corruption, and chaos. republicans stand for law, order, and justice. it is true. [cheering] we believe wisconsin should be a sanctu

[booing] year, thep: last sanctuary county of milwaukee released an illegal alien criminal with multiple for sexual assault of a child. think about that, of children. and they arelarge searching all over. he is looking for another victim. he is allowed to go from your sanctuary city. in the city of madison, police arrested an illegal alien for assault and after authorities released him, he committed violent battery, only to be released one more time. they are now looking for him. isn't that nice? the same illegal alien was arrested for a third time in september and charged with multiple sexual assaults, including sexual assault of a child. now that criminal is once again in wisconsin jail, and i call on your wet -- left-wing officials to stop the madness and work with ice to make sure he is deported the hell back home. get him out of our country. [cheers and applause] democrats stand for crime, corruption. republicans stand for law, order and justice. it is true. wisconsin should be a sanctuary for law-abiding americans, not for criminal alien. these illegalg criminals and gang members b

it will be fought in the suburbs around milwaukee and the counties. l tip the balance, but they're clearly focused on it, too. >> it wasn't just donald trump's 23,000 slim vote victory in wisconsin last time. kerry won the vote by about 5,000 votes or won the state by 11,000 votes. wisconsin sure that the integrity of wisconsin elections are protected. >> i love how he says 20,000 people need to move to wisconsin. i actually moved there, it's not like winston churchill will get in the car and pick a new area he'll represent. >> you know there are democratic strategists who are thinking the same thing, joe. they could have just moved a bunch of people there. >> trust me, republican strategists have thought about it, as well, and are probably doing it. fair warning for all of us, karen, you just pointed out, iowa, a month from today, we can no longer say these polls are meaningless. thin of course, this is a beauty contest this election is six month, five months away. it is on us. so let's buckle up. karen, thank you so much for being with us. tom rogers

the population centers, madison and milwaukee, those are dedicated liberal and unlikely to change. key importance is 23 countiesma won twice in a row, but they flipped republican to elect donald trump, so the voters in those rural counties can expect to get a lot of attention. >> what will decide the race in wisconsin is personal contact. people talking to their neighbors, to their friends, going out and not just talking about it, but going back over and over and over again. our volunteers, right now, in every corner of the state, are going out weekend by weekend, having individual personal conversations with people about the issues that they care about. that is something that does not happen this early in 2016. >> also what did not happen in 2016 is that hillary clinton did not make a personal visit to wisconsin during the campaign for the general election. evidence that should democrats won't take wisconsin for granted again, behind me is the pfizer form, that's where the convention is going to be held. we move up just a little bit where you can see the satellite trucks, that's where donald trump is having hi

. >> a few models that show milwaukee and madison are dedicated liberal and unlikely to change but trump reached voters in 23 rural wisconsin counties for obama twice and then flipped republican in 2016. >> people who are forgotten men and women in northern wisconsin. >> the future belongs to the people. >> they are all about to get the experience of voters in battleground states. no matter how far they live up a farm road, wisconsin voters will get knocks on the door. >> personal contacts, people talking to their neighbors, to their friends, volunteers right now in every corner of the state are going out, weekend by weekend and having individual, personal conversations with people about the issues they care about. that is something that wasn't happening this early in 2016. >> to set the scene behind me, the pfizer forum where democrats will be holding their convention. to their left is panther arena where president trump is holding his rally tonight. further we have a small group of anti-trump demonstrators. a larger group is expected. and a long line of trump supporters screaming into the arena. wisconsin voters can get used to th

county. >> yeah, wisconsin voters have been battle tested so they're dialled in. but what are they dialed in to? it was interesting when the president came to my hometown of milwaukeembers of the republican congressional delegation tweeted out a picture of themselves on air force one. every single one of them. now, this is a state that had been very skeptical of donald trump back in 2016 during the primaries. but he's managed to unite the republican party behind him. and so last night, you had the president going in to a state that isn't -- that was very, very trump skeptical. he's referring to democrats as traitors. this is a couple of days after the president tweets out something with nancy pelosi dressed up as a muslim and it doesn't register. >> are those republicans in wisconsin buying it? because if they love the president and watched him one week ago, he was bragging about the eighth wonder of the world, the massive foxconn plant that doesn't exist in the grand scale that it was supposed to in that state of wisconsin. they live there. >> yeah, they live there. it's not so much they love trump as they despise the democrats and also it is just so tribal. you k