and then we will be live in milwuakie for the final day of the national governors' association summer what are the milestone years for first ladies through history? mrs.ld say, certainly, adams, her period, the first to live in the white house, very opinionated, bright lady, capable lady. on a more social side, dolley madison, the melodrama of the burning of the house. then you have other first ladies but you go through a period for there are not many first lady's. i would take it up from there to harriet lane, president buchanan's niece. , that was thebers grandest whitehouse that ever happened. -- more with williams eale seale tonight at 8:00. >> we have never known what to do with our first ladies, and that is particularly true in recent times. on the one hand, they are expected to have causes. you cannot imagine a first lady today without a cause. and the other hand, those causes are not permitted to intrude upon law making, or an official it has been a tight rope. seeing how these women walk that tightrope tells you about the women and about institution, and about society that th