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joining the conversation, mimi rocah.d the southern district of new york's prosecutors want to know if hope hicks colluded with american media in responding to "the washington journal"? >> well, nicole, i think a couple of reasons. first of all, hope hicks, remember, was also the person involved in the plane with trump in crafting the response to the trump tower meeting. she's the one who said no one is going to ever see the e-mails that don junior had about that meeting. so we have to sort of look at her i think in that context. was she someone who was coordinating this response here now with respect to the hush money payments without knowing the full context and what the whole scheme was, or was she sort of fully read in on the whole scheme and was coordinating it with all of that knowledge. we don't know the answer to that right now, and my guess is that is what southern district was trying to determine in talking to her. they knew she had these contacts, knew she was involved and the question was what was her degree o

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mimi rocah is a u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, a msnbc legal analysis. what to you is most important in this obstruction part of the discussion we've been having? >> so, ari, what's most important to me is the gap that you guys have been talking about between how barr portrayed mueller's conclusions, findings on obstruction and what they actually are now that we are seeing them. although, i know we're all still digesting it. it seems very clear to me that as many of us thought, and was discussed on your show and other shows on this new york, that mueller intended for this to go to congress. that seems even more clear now. and it seems even more clear that he thinks there was evidence of obstruction and that there was evidence of this corrupt intent. and, in fact, when he explains why he didn't go on to seek the interview which he knew would lead to a lengthy court battle, he essentially says, we already had evidence through other means, which is commonly how prosecutors obtain evidence of intent. i think he was essentially saying, it seems to me, i alrea

is a former federal prosecutor from the southern district of new york and msnbc legal analyst, mimi rocahget right to the point here, should the united states deputy attorney general be talking to the president about an investigation that he is the center of? >> absolutely not. i mean, you don't have to be a lawyer to know that. it's common sense. part of the job of the attorney general and the deputy attorney general is no make sure that the public has confidence in the decisions that are reached. and by doing this, at the time many of us said this smacked as a loyalty test. rosenstein was fearing for his job, he's summoned on this plane with trump. it reminded me of the many organized crime cases i prosecuted where the mob boss summons an underling to make sure he's still within his circle of loyalty. and then to have trump come out of that meeting and say we had a great discussion and now we know that it's in part because rosenstein apparently assured him of things he shouldn't have been discussing at all. how can the public have confidence in the decisions that have been reached? it r