host: mina kimes? guest: sure.l, i think you make a good point about railroading and manufactureers and i think it is in the interest of this company to make sure there's an even plague field. the railroads don't exist in a vacuum. there are dozens of other industries impacted by these rules. so while they may be benefiting from the current system, for every dollar they safe, a dollar is being paid out by another system so 23409 only are the railroads competing but shippers have the means to compete as well and do well. host: does the shipping industry have its group of lobbyists here in washington as well to help them with their charges? guest: they do. there's a group called consumers united for rail equity, a bit smaller than the rail equity. largely composed of chemical producers, manufacturers, coal shippers, and utilities pay a lot in rail weight. caller: i've had a lot of years with negotiating with railways and j.b. hunt is also a big player in the rail line. a lot of things i would say, first of all, unles

host: mina kimes? guest: sure. well, i think you make a good point about railroading and manufactureers and i think it is ithe interest of this company to make sure there's an even plague field. the railroads don't exist in a vacuum. there are dozens of other industries impacted by these rules. so while they may be benefiting from the current system, for every dollar they safe, a dollar is being paid out by another system so 23409 only are the railroads competing but shippers have the means to compete as well and do well. host: does the shipping industry have its group of lobbyists here in washington as well to help them with their charges? guest: they do. there's a group called consumers united for rail equity, a bit smaller than the rail equity. largely composed of chemical producers, manufacturers, coal shippers, and utilities pay a lot in raiweight. caller: i've had a lot of years with negotiating with railways and j.b. hunt is also a big player in the rail line. a lot of things i would say, first of all, unles