i think -- if you look at presidentialed a mingses, and it's not just obama, but most presidents modern day, all the decisions are made in the white house and then out in foggy bottom or the pentagon or wherever they implement. but they don't have a lot of authority to make decisions. and i think those are unattractive jobs and wouldn't want to take it. the other thing is you always want to work in a company where the person that you work for has your back. as they would say. if one of our people screws up, city government or here, and it was a rational thing, they try -- and just didn't work. or just said something stupid. we all say things stupid. if you're going to shoot everybody that said something stupid, there would be nobody left. and so i want to make sure people see me walking down the aisle with that person telling a joke, laughing. and having a cup of coffee. and -- because people have got to understand that if they don't try or if they don't fail, they're going to be -- how do i phrase it, that they can't fail and succeed. the truth of the matter is you want people to try s