. >> michael: and how close minijean did it come to breaking you? >> i think it probably did break me in a very surprising way. i was involved in a chile incident which we won't go into here, but there was a bit of paying me back for that, and i always assumed that breaking meant crying so we never cried, but i guess it turned out the way -- for me breaking meant getting mad and answering back, and i did that and for that i was expelled. so -- >> michael: you know -- >> it wasn't fair. >> michael: part of where we're doing this march goes on revisiting that period in american history is to teach it to younger people have people talk about it, and know some of the anecdotes that were so unbelievable at that time. so i would love it if you would share that chile incident with us. >> well, i'm going to do a little more than share the chile story, i'm going to express my disappointment that the whole story is not known and when i work with young people or am with young people, which is what i like doing best they are very thrilled to hear the stories ab