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in the aftermath of george floyd's death, 14 minneapolis police department officers signed an open letter condemning derek chauvin's actions and embracing the call for reform and change. these 14 officers don't only speak for themselves, they speak for hundreds across the country. these officers and ones like them want you to support officers who treat everyone with dignity and respect. they want you to support officers who are taking risk to speak up and demand that we do better. they want you to hold their colleagues accountable who refuse to serve communities with dignity and respect. why do officers want accountability? well, think of the 9-year-old girl wearing a t-shird that said -- t-shirt that said love across the front, witnessed george floyd's murder, and how she will feel 20 years from now as she may be speaking to her own children whether or not to trust law enforcement. this is undermining the ability for people to trust and that is very tragic. it's not fair to judge all police officers by derek chauvin's actions but some people will inevitably will generalize unless there i

however, the narrative that was really advanced by the minneapolis police department is that derek show was one bad apple and their training. their preparation and law enforcement officials don't act like that. derek shobel was an exception and i really caution our viewers to really hold weight in that because they're chosen was acting within the framework of a police officer. he was a supervising officer within that department. he had, i think, approximately 19 other incidents of misconduct. and yet he was still elevated in this position of authority, and that was again within the minneapolis police department. so he was not one single exceptional bad. apple was an officer, right. 19 year veteran. yes. so and you, britain, you said a little while ago that the sentencing in fact doesn't do anything to change the underlying concerns if you put them with the presumption of criminality and dangerousness that police assigned to black people. so what needs to happen for that to change? i think that is beginning to happen within this last year. there has been increased awareness in all sector

things -- and first of all, i really want to thank some of the police officers from the minneapolis police department who, under great pressure, great stress, to some extent in peril to their occupations, what they devoted their life to, stuck to their oath and their commitment as police officers to speak openly and honestly about policing and the training that is given and received by police officers. those officers didn't hide behind a blue wall. they came forward. they told this court and those jurors what they knew about training and responsibility. and i think they deserve recognition and credit for that. i'd also like to thank members of the bureau of criminal apprehension. you know, those agents gets called in at great sacrifice to their personal life. whenever things happen, they go. they did that here and under really extraordinary circumstances completed a very professional and thorough investigation. conducting interviews is hard enough, but conducting them in an atmosphere of the city, following the murder of george floyd was even more difficult. and they did so, i think, above and beyond

things -- and first of all, i really want to thank some of the police officers from the minneapolis police department who, under great pressure, great stress, to some extent [indiscernible] to their occupations what they devoted their life to, stuck to their oath and their commitment as police officers to speak openly and honestly about policing and the training that is given and received by police officers. those officers didn't hide behind a blue wall. they came forward. they told this court and those jurors what they knew about training and responsibility. i think they deserve recognition and credit for that. i'd also like to thank members of the bureau of criminal apprehension. those agents gets called in. great sacrifice to their personal life. whenever things happen, they go. they did that here and under really extraordinary circumstances completed a very professional and thorough investigation. conducting interviews is hard enough, but conducting them in an atmosphere of the city, following the murder of george floyd was even more difficult. and they did so, i think, above and beyond the call

>> not only do we need to disinvest in police but we need to completely dismantle the minneapolis police department. the minneapolis police department is rotten to the roof. >> defund the police does not mean abolish the police, it means a dramatic reduction in the number of police in our poor communities. police are terrorizing communities across the country. >> harris: oakland's police chief is saying the money taken from the police budget will cause real harm to real people and he gets emotional. >> saturday night i went out to a scene of a young man that lost his life. a lady yelled out the window, do something about it. without the resources, it makes it challenging to make oakland safe. and more families find themselves dealing with trauma, find themselves dealing with putting the pieces together. when the yellow tape is gone and when the streets are cleaned up, there is still hurt and pain and tragedy in our community. i hope that we can put politics aside and put public safety first. >> harris: when the yellow tape is gone. you can't make this part up. just hours after that chief was speaki

in the aftermath of george lloyd's death, 14 minneapolis police depart, police department officers signed an open letter condemning derek sheldon's actions and embracing the call for reform and change. these 14 officers don't only speak for themselves. they speak for hundreds across the country. these officers and ones like them want you to support officers who treat everyone with dignity and respect . they want you to support officers who are taking risks to speak up and demand that we do better. they want you to hold their colleagues accountable, who refuse to serve communities with dignity and respect. why do officers want accountability? well, think of the 9 year old girl wearing a t shirt and said love across the front who witness george floyd's murder and how she will feel 20 years from now. as she may be speaking to her own children about whether to trust law enforcement. the damage to derek floyd, crime inflicted upon the reputation of officers is undermining the ability for people to trust in that is very tragic. it's not fair to judge all police officers . my dear children's act

department, has stepped up on policing issues since the biden administration started. the federal investigation, the pattern and practice investigation of the whole minneapolis police department, the federal charges being brought against chauvin and three other officers in the trial that's yet to be scheduled. another pattern and practice investigation in louisville where brionna taylor was killed, federal hate crimes charges brought against three georgia men being believed to be involved in the death of ahmad a bring. arbery. before today we had seen comparatively little from the biden justice department. when it comes to the other major responsibility of its division which of course is protecting voting rights. you'll remember that the justice department sent a stern letter to arizona warning them that their so-called audit might violate federal laws. they cents a stern letter but no follow-up action besides the letter itself. then a couple of weeks ago attorney general farland gave a speech in which he said the justice department would look at restrikive voting laws around the country as well as threats to election officials. that was just a speech. today, though, we final

minneapolis police officer derek chauvin in the killing of george floyd. it is also a reminder of all the ways the federal governments, u.s. justice departmentepped up so far on policing issues since the biden administration started. the federal investigation a pattern in practices investigation with the minneapolis police department. the federal charges brought against chauvin and three other officers on a trail yet to be scheduled. another pattern in louisville or breonna taylor was killed. federal hate crimes charges brought against three georgia men believed to be involved in the death of ahmaud arbery. before today it's interesting. we have seen a lot of action by the justice department when it comes to policing. civil rights issues. before today we had seen comparatively little action from the biden justice department when it comes to the other major responsibility of its civil rights division which is protecting voting rights. you will remember the justice department sent a stern letter to arizona republicans last month warning them that their audit of the presidential election results in arizona might violate federal laws. they said

number one, in investigating the minneapolis police department through the doj's patterns and practicest beyond that, i am thankful to know that federal civil rights charges have been filed against derek chauvin as well as the other three former officers who were involved in the murder of george floyd. so my hope is that through that process derek chauvin will have a linkier prison term than the one handed down by peter cahill. >> how much does this change in our world? much has changed in the last year, no question. chris stewart was right. he said there are conversations going on between white people and black people that just didn't happen before may of last year. there are conversations going on in the senate that might lead to some sort of a deal on the justice in policing act. what changes in your mind as a result of both this conviction on the sentence? >> well, i think that the changes that took place had a lot to do with, of course, the world taking to the streets to stand up for justice for george floyd, 26 million people at least took to the streets within the last year. and

and 1st of all, i want to really thank some of the police officers, minneapolis police department, who under great pressure, great stress, in some extent a parent to their their occupations. what they've devoted their life to stuck to their oath and their commitment as police officers to speak openly and honestly about policing and the training that is given and received by police officers. those officers didn't hide behind blue off. they came forward. they told us court and those yours what they knew about training and responsibility . and i think they deserve recognition and credit for that. one also like to thank members of the bureau of criminal apprehension. you know, those agents get called in great sacrifices or personalized whatever's things happen. they go, they did that here and under really extraordinary circumstances. completed a very professional and thorough investigation conducting interviews as hard enough, but conducting them in the atmosphere of the city. following the murder of george floyd even more difficult. and they did. so i think above and beyond the call of du

but the bottom line is that chauvin really -- i mean, he not only tainted the minneapolis police department. he tainted the entire profession of policing. i mean, he doesn't represent what policing is all acbout. i mean, what he did was nothing short of murder. watching that video for 9 and a half minutes was actually watching murder, in slow motion. i mean, so, is it enough time in the judge's mind, it was. and i certainly accept it. but, you know, if -- if i were making the decision, it would have been a little harsher. >> laura, in the 22-page sentencing memo, judge cahill writes that chauvin treated mr. floyd without respect, and denied him the dignity owed to all-human beings. how much weight do you think those words carry? >> extraordinary weight. i mean, this is something that was obvious to all of us who are following this trial, so closely, day in and day out. the idea that -- i remember there was a question that was raised by -- and asked in the victim-impact statement portion of sentencing. the brother of george floyd. when he said, he turned to derek chauvin and said, why? what

change for out for the solid mine and my family. derek devoted 19 years of his life to minneapolis police department. it has been difficult for me to hear and read what the media public and prosecution team gave derrick b and growth, so heartless and then terry person. i can tell you that as far from the truth my sons identity has also been reduced to that of, as of that as a racist why? of course, to know that none of these things are true and that my son is a good man. derek always dedicated his life and tie him to the police department. even on his days off. he would call in to see if they needed help. derek hills acquired thoughtful, other mold and self selfless man. he has a big heart and he always has put others before his own the public will never know. so loving insuring man, she is. but the family does. even though i have not spoken puzzled play, i always support him 100 percent. and always will. derek, played over and over in his head the events of the day. i've seen the toll of health taken i believe alexi sentence will not serve during well when he was sentenced to my son. he will also b

so there are other cases on going to the state of minnesota is investigating the minneapolis police department for possible racial bias in their treatment of people during arrest. and of course, the us justice department is constantly being asked to look into these kinds of events on a federal level. and they are indeed also prosecuting derek jovan for violating the civil rights of george floyd. so there is a kind of reckoning going on here. some people here including members of the floyd family say it's not enough, but it's certainly more than we have seen in the past. is the reverend al sharpton said we got more than we thought, but less than we deserved. all right, thank you very much, john. 100 in minneapolis. we'll also following a story professor ronald sullivan again. you the 1st of laura and director of the criminal justice and harvard. those cool joins us now from newton, massachusetts does this case set an important precedent in the country now? it can. it can serve as a model of what courts should do in cases where police exceed their authority and harm unarmed african american men.

narrative of police about why they shot this man, but coming on the heels of what the minneapolis police department released after the death of george ward, that he died of a medical condition after interaction with police. so it's almost like the, you know, yes, there was a conviction and that was proof that it could actually happen. but then you have another shooting and you don't have any video which is really just disastrous in terms of, you know, trying to build trust with the community. so it's, it's a process, not a destination. and we have a lot of work to do to really regain much of any trust in our community here. so well, entirely part of that process is, is about having a conversation right, diane. i know that you yourself have previously written about how supporting the black lives matter movement doesn't necessarily have to be mutually exclusive from also supporting law enforcement. and i know you yourself received some pretty harsh feedback after that. since then, do you think things have actually changed? is there room now for that conversation to take place? i yes, you know, there

black people in minneapolis alone, aside from the entire nation, knew that derek chauvin was guilty prior to the murder of george floyd. this is an officer who was part of a police departmentho has hundreds and hundreds of lives on their hand, right? it is very clear that we know that the minneapolis police department has blood on its hands and derek chauvin's sentencing does not wash it away. >> you can see more of my discussion with minneapolis naacp vice president anika buoy, next hour, right here on cnn. >>> the new york police department is on the hunt for four vandals suspected of a possible hate crime. they believe these individuals were involved directly or indirectly in defacing a george floyd statue in brooklyn on thursday. floyd's brother had unveiled the 16 foot tall statue for the juneteenth holiday and vandals painted over the face and the base, and stencilled in the words of a neo nazi white supremacist group. new york governor andrew cuomo had a terse message for the vandals. get the held out of our state. >>> still ahead, another night of massive search and rescue operations in florida, two days after a deadly building collapse. we'll bring you an update a

the state of minnesota is investigating the minneapolis police department for possible racial bias in their treatment of people during arrests. the u.s. justice department is constantly being asked to look into these kind of events on a federal level. and they are also prosecuting derek chauvin for violating the civil rights of george floyd. so there is a kind of reckoning going on here. some people including members of the floyd family say this is not enough. it is certainly more than we have seen in the past as the rev. al sharpton said. we got more than we thought, but less than we deserve. >> think you very much, john hendren from minneapolis. the criminal justice professor from harvard joins us now. does this case set an important precedent in the country? >> it can. it can serve as a model of what courts should do in cases where police succeed their authority. and harm african-american men. it doesn't necessarily set a precedent where a case tomorrow and it -- and a police officer is not even charged. but the hope is that this will serve as a model so that other jurisdictions wi

in the aftermath of george frye plus plus death, for at the minneapolis police department officer isctions and embracing the call for reform and change and these 14 offices don't speak for themselves. they speak for hundreds across the country. these offices and ones them want you to support officers who treat everyone with and respect. they want you to support officers by taking risks to speak up and demand that we do better. they want you to hold their colleagues accountable who refuse to serve communities with dignity and respect. why do officers want accountability? think of the nine—year—old girl wearing a t—shirt that said level across the front who witnessed george floyd's murder and how she will feel 20 years from now as she may be speaking to her own children about whether to trust law enforcement. the damage of the crime inflicted upon the reputation of officers is undemanding the ability for people to trust and that is very tragic. it is not fair tojudge all police officers by derek chavin's actions but some people inevitably will generalise unless there is true accountabi

he devoted 19 years of his life to minneapolis police department. it has been difficult for me to hear and read what the media, public and prosecution team believe derek to be an aggressive, heartless and uncaring person. i can tell you that is far from the truth. my son's identity has also been reduced to that as a racist. i want the court to know that none of these things are true and that my son is a good man. derek always dedicated his life and time to the police department even on his days off, he would call in to see if they needed help. derek is a quiet, thoughtful, honorable and selfless man. he has a big heart and has always put others before his own. the public will never know the loving and caring man he is. but his family does. even though i have not spoken publicly, i always supported him 100% and always will. derek has played over and over in his head the events of that day. to see the toll it has taken on him. i believe a lengthy stencil not serve derek well. when you sentence my son, he will also be sentencing me. i will not be able

and first of all i want to really thank some of the police officers in the minneapolis police department who under great pressure, great stress, some extent to their occupations what they devoted their life to. stuck to their oath and their commitment as police officers to speak openly and honestly about policing and the training that is given and received by police officers. those officers didn't hide behind the wall. they came forward and told this court and those jurors what they knew about training and respons i think they deserve recognition and credit for that. i would also like to thank members of the bureau of criminal apprehension. those agents get called n great sacrifice to their personal lives whenever things happen. they go. they did that here. and under really extraordinary circumstances completed a thorough investigation. conducting interviews is hard enough. but conducting them in the atmosphere of this city following the murder of george floyd was even more difficult. and they did so above and beyond the call of duty. i want to thank them for doing that on behalf of the

and first of all, i want to really thank some of the police officers in the minneapolis police department who, under great pressure, great stress, to some extent, apparent to their occupations, what they have devoted their life to, stuck to their oath and their commitment as police officers to speak openly and honestly about policing and the training that is given and received by police officers. those officers didn't hide behind a blue wall. they came forward. they told this court and those jurors what they knew about training and responsibility. and i think they deserve recognition and credit for that. i would also like to thank members of the bureau of criminal those agents get called in. things happen. they did that here and under really extraordinary circumstances completed a professional and thorough investigation. conducting interviews is hard enough but conducting them in the atmosphere of the city following the murder of george floyd was even more difficult, and they did so, i think, above and beyond the call of duty. i want to thank them for doing that on behalf of the whole pro

black people in minneapolis alone, aside from the entire nation, knew that derek chauvin was guilty prior to the murder of george floyd. this is an officer who was part of a police departmentndreds and hundreds of lives on their hands, right? it's very clear that we know that the minneapolis police department has blood on its hands and derek chauvin's sentencing does not wash it away and the people of minneapolis deserve concrete change through policy, through practices, through legislation, law change to ensure that all law enforcement would face real substantial consequences and unfortunately -- >> i want to just jump in right on that because, you know, we heard the family pleading for congress to act on police reform, but deadlines have come and gone, a deal on the bill seems allusive. so what happens if there isn't that systemic change at the federal level, you know, where do we go from here if congress doesn't act? >> well, you know, activists will continue to organize, strategize and mobilize for change. in the wake of the murder we have saw abolition movement that had rose up to the surface, right, to the mainstream conversation of rethinking how we see policing in

. >> pelley: the first public statement that the minneapolis police department made, hours after mr. hat "the police had been involved, and someone had died of a medical emergency." do you think we ever would've known the truth without the video? >> ellison: you know, i have real doubts of-- that we ever would. >> pelley: why would derek chauvin commit murder, or even assault, if he knew he was being recorded? >> ellison: i think that if he looks at history, he has every reason to believe that he would never be held accountable. there's never been anyone in minnesota convicted-- any police officer convicted of second-degree murder, in the history of our state. so, this was precedent-setting in that way. so, history was on his side. >> pelley: does george floyd bear any responsibility, in your view, for what happened that day? >> ellison: no, he doesn't. >> pelley: if he'd gotten in the car, he'd be alive today. >> ellison: the fact is that police officers are paid and trained to deal with people who are having problems. and, if they're allowed to use deadly force on people who are jus

says part of the mission of the minneapolis police department is to give citizens voice and respect.on treated mr. george floyd without respect and denied him the dignity owed to all human beings which he will certainly would have extended to a friend or neighbor. in the court's view,

derek devoted 19 years of his life to the minneapolis police department. it's been difficult for me to here and read what the media, public and prosecution team believe derek to be an aggressive, heartless and uncaring person. i can tell you that is far from the truth. my son's identity has also been reduced to that as a racist. i want this court to know that none of these things are true and that my son is a good man. derek always dedicated his life and time to the police department even on his days off he would call to see if they needed help. derek is a quiet, thoughtful, honorable and selfless man. he has a big heart and he always has put others before his own. the public will never know the loving and caring man he is that his family does. even though i've not spoken publicly, i've always supported him 100% and always will. derek has played over and over in his head the events of that day. i've seen the toll it has taken on him. i believe a lengthy sentence will not serve derek well. when you sentence my son, you will also be sentencing me. i will not

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the system is that there was not enough transparency, accountability, in the minnesota, minneapolis, police department to get chauvin off the force. if there had been that kind of accountability, george floyd might still be alive. >> "all in with chris hayes" starts now. >>> tonight, on "all in." >>> all the evidence i have. everything is going to go before the supreme court. donald trump will be back in office in august. >>> the delusion, deception, and slow-motion insurrection continues. tonight, congressman james clyburn and former senator doug jones on the urgency for democrats to act, even as manchin and sinema stand by. >>> then. >> did you pay back several of your top executives for contributing to trump's campaign? by bonusing or rewarding them? >> that's an outrageous claim, sir. and i resent it. >>> what we know about the fbi investigation of donald trump's postmaster general. >>> plus, nbc news confirms a federal investigation of congressman matt gaetz. what does it mean, now that the biden administration says it will treat ransomware attacks as a national-security threat? >>> and today's b

it was not only chauvin but the three other former minneapolis police department officers, facing that indictment, through that federal grand jury. and chauvin also facing a separate indictment, but also from the federal grand jury, or connected to a 2017 arrest, then involving a 14-year-old boy. so there is more legal action, more times that you can expect, having to argue essentially his innocence, and different situations there. one thing that we did note yesterday during that sentencing hearing by the way is when he said to the family, the one time that we heard derek chauvin speak and he said to the floyd family that there is something upcoming that will give them comfort, that he hopes will give them comfort. it's not clear if that is related to the federal charges but there is at least some action that we know is to come. that is what is happening at the federal level. but yesterday, of course, was the closure in the state prosecution. and you know, one thing that we know about this is that this was a prosecution led by the attorney general of the state of minnesota himself, kei

in the aftermath of george floyd's death, 14 minneapolis police department officers signed an open letter condemning derek chauvin's actions and embracing the call for reform and change. these 14 officers don't only speak for themselves. they speak for hundreds across the country. these officers and ones like them want you to support officers who treat everyone with dignity and respect. they want you to support officers who are taking risk to speak up and demand that we do better. they want you to hold their colleagues accountable who refuse to serve communities with dignity and respect. why do officers want accountability? well, think of the 9-year-old girl wearing a t-shirt that said "love" across the front who witnessed george floyd's murder and how she will feel 20 years from now as she may be speaking to her own children about whether to trust law enforcement. the damage that derek floyd's crime inflicted upon the reputation of officers is undermining the ability for people to trust. and that is very tragic. it's not fair to judge all police officers by derek chauvin's actions. but s

are alleged against derek chauvin, he's facing dr he and actually the other three former minneapolis police departmenticers facing that indictment from a federal goosh grand jury that accused them of violating george floyd's civil rights and constitutional rights effectively. we will expect to see more legal occurrences, more court cases, more hearings, more legal trouble for derek chauvin in addition to facing those counts and charges involving the george floyd murder, he's also facing counts and charges for potential civil rights and constitutional violation a 2017 arrest. that one involving a 14-year-old boy here in minneapolis. so there's a lot more legal trouble that derek chauvin is facing despite that sentence and it being somewhat of closure for the state case that we've been paying attention to for the last couple of months. >> shaq brewster in minneapolis, thank you as always, my friend. >>> coming up in our 4:00 p.m. hour we will get reaction to the sentencing from the cousin of george floyd, tara brown, who also serves as the director of the george floyd foundation. >>> plus we're going to

the system is that there was not enough transparency, accountability, in the minnesota, minneapolis, police department>>> tonight, on "all in." >>> all the evidence i have. everything is going to go before the supreme court. donald trump will be back in office in august. >>> the delusion, deception, and slow-motion insurrection continues. tonight, congressman james clyburn and former senator doug jones on the urgency for democrats to act, even as manchin and sinema stand by. >>> then. >> did you pay back several of your top executives for contributing to trump's campaign? by bonusing or rewarding them?

. >> what are you willing to sacrifice to make sure that over funded police departments are defunded? >> minneapolisficer department is rotten to the root and so when we dismantle it, we get rid of that cancer. >> i understand the people don't like the slogan. i get that. but i don't like that. i don't like black death. i don't like to keep seeing my people die at the hands of police and nothing is happening. >> congresswoman talib said no more policing incarceration and militarization can't be reformed. this is an idea president biden never supported and clear about that since he took office and clear since. nonetheless, this is a crisis facing this country and he as president. two big city police officer chiefs are dealing with this rise in crime and their own cities are with us now. michael harrison is here with me for the east coast and from the wet west, in oakland armstrong who participated virtually on president biden's event in policing today. appreciate both of you. chief armstrong, let me start with you because you've dealt personally with violent crime with a horrible loss in your own lif

in the aftermath of george floyd's death, 14 minneapolis police department officers signed an open letter condemning derek chauvin's actions and embracing the call for reform and change. these 14 officers don't only speak for themselves, they speak for hundreds across the country. these officers and ones like them want you to support officers who treat everyone with dignity and respect. they want to you support officers who are taking risks to speak up and demand that we do better. they want to you hold their colleagues accountable who refuse to serve communities with dignity and respect. why do officers want accountability? well, think of the 9-year-old girl wearing a t-shirt that said love across the front who witnessed george floyd's murder and how she will feel 20 years from now as she may be speaking to her own children about whether to trust law enforcement. the damage is undermining the ability for people to trust, and that is very tragic. it's not fair to judge all police officers by derek chauvin's actions, but some people inevitably will generalize unless there is true accountab

city police department they said defended the police was the only way in the new york city police department by a billion dollars and they see an increase of shooting of 162%. you look at minneapolis60% and they said most of these cases are going to be unsolved because we don't have the police resources to take on these matters and it's unfortunate that we here at this particular point in time because this profession by all means used to be perceived nationally by everyone as an honorable profession and that is no longer the case since the left. mike: robert hardy assess the situation. >> i don't think it's a left right issue, and trained understand why we have to take every single argument and put on a left right, my older sister has spent 25 years on the police department to the idea of the anti-police, what we have tapas a cooperation from local police department and local politician and local that what police reform in state communities what we seek when they decide to institute police reform in the slightest way looking for police slowdown and police retirement, because they do not want to have the slightest bit of oversight we saw when they had the no chase policy with the c

- statement released, after the verdict, there was a statement released for the department representing minneapolis policeas not right now, the department is under a really, really big microscope. earlier, shortly after the guilty verdict in april, us justice department had announced a pattern and practice investigation into the department. so this is an effort to look at the department more closely in terms of determining whether there is a pattern of discriminatory policing by the agency. in fact they were some federal indictments issued against derek chauvin and the other officers involved was not the case against derek chauvin, he faces a civil rights case in a different case where he also knelt on a 13—year—old boy. tera knelt on a 13-year-old boy. two --eole knelt on a 13-year-old boy. two people feel _ knelt on a 13-year-old boy. two people feel that _ knelt on a 13—year—old boy. two people feel thatjustice has people feel that justice has been served by this sentence? —— do people feel. been served by this sentence? -- do people feel.— -- do people feel. there are three other _ -- do people feel.

want to really think some of the police _ want to really think some of the police officers in the minneapolis the police department is given and received by police officers. those officers didn't _ by police officers. those officers didn't hide behind a blue wall. they came _ didn't hide behind a blue wall. they came forward, they told us court and those _ came forward, they told us court and those jurors — came forward, they told us court and those jurors what they knew about training _ those jurors what they knew about training. and responsibility and i think— training. and responsibility and i think they— training. and responsibility and i think they deserve recognition and credit— think they deserve recognition and credit for— think they deserve recognition and credit for that. what i also would like to _ credit for that. what i also would like to think is members of the bureau — like to think is members of the bureau of— like to think is members of the bureau of criminal apprehension. those _ bureau of criminal apprehension. those agents get called in sacrifice to the _ those agents get called in sacrifice to

. >> well last year the city of minneapolis diverted about $8 million away from the city police departmentlevel in years, the city council approved $5 million in new police department funding. there is a lot to talk about here. sander samuels is with me, from the north side achievement zone a nonprofit that works with thousands ever families in the most underserved communities across minneapolis. sandra, good morning and thank you for being here. let's start on the dire statistics in your home town, in my home town, homicides nearing record highs there. gunshot victims up 123% from this time of a year ago and violent crime arrests down one third. that is the data. you talk about working alongside police officers, while holding them accountable. what is minneapolis need from the biden administration? >> absolutely. and poppy, thank you. great to be on the show. there is one stat that you left out of this like insane increase in violent crime and homicides which is happening here, is that disproportionately the people who are being harmed are black and brown folks. and so in my community, i

it basically said in shorthand part of the mission of the minneapolis police department is to give citizensty, the dignity owed him the dignity, the dignity owed him and owed to all human beings. and thejudge basically him and owed to all human beings. and the judge basically said this was one of the contributing factors to why he felt that this number, that seems kind of random, at least to me, 22.5, and i thought that that was what encapsulated the whole case — that all humans are created in the image and the dignity of god and should be given that kind of respect and mr chauvin failed to do that and for whatever sentence he got, should have reflected that. and i was just struck with the fact that the judge was human, i don't know why you — that surprised me, but does make and he felt the same kind of pain that i felt and so, it did bring some comfort in hearing not only the sentence, which felt arbitrary, i did not know what those numbers were attached to, but what really struck me was the judge's opinion as to why he did what he did. i would be interesting —— interested in your thoughts

police department. shootings are up 166%. look at minneapolis, they defunded there and what happened?hey don't have the resources. 63 out of the top 66 jurisdictions, police jurisdictions have seen increase of at least one crime. things aren't getting better they are actually getting worse. it's time to put down the rhetoric and start supporting police officers and police reforms. that's what's necessary for this moment. jillian: it's awful what's going on out there. you want to defund some of our trust in politicians. what does this mean gianno? >> you know what? it was something that i talked about when i co-hosted this weekend's big show, i will tell you, we as a country, so many individuals have put their faith in people like dr. anthony fauci who is a medical expert. is he a government employee. people begin to look at him like he was jesus christ himself trusting absolutely everything that he said even though he was giving advice that was contrarian to something he might have said two or three weeks ago. not only that you saw other medical experts that provided a different take

police. you have activists city council all across the hundred including places like portland, seattle, minneapolis that are all voting to divert millions and millions of dollars away from police departmentsofficers retire. >> first of all our own chris wallace who is not a political hack, ask for republican congressman banks to speak it every single republican member of congress voted no that would have given three to $50 billion for policing. kennedy: gave a chilly and also much of other stuff that's why. it is not specific. if this were a policing bill. >> let me finish police. they voted against it included that provision. intra- democratic party fight over policing that we went through, joe biden and the moderates one, joe biden and the moderates one part he became a democratic nominee. he repeatedly advocate for more funding for police. their local officials. to foresee everything else people have a problem with. i know back it's the democrats and nationally. look for a loss of seats in the house is not a smashing victory. back okay all of our national leaders are democrats. nobody went to defend the police. stu varney nobody? >> i really what you want to use it politically this evi

who's to say they were going to use it to refund the police department that they voted to divert money away from. seattle and portland, minneapolis about. if they're the ones defunding the police, does that mean they are now republicans? they're the ones asking for extra police presence. and he gets it! mayor of new york city talked about taking guns away from nypd officers, she had 24-hour police protection. >> kennedy: they don't want to defund the police, there was a democrat that's exploded, three hour-long conference call, they were chewing out other members. they know they have this problem. it defies credibility to suggest they don't. >> harris: the political crime. while pointing fingers at water guns at each other. i want to point out what she said, "our plan allowed state and local governments to replenish their police department. this boat she said it at the podium. this code help help them being funded. that plan did not say, they have to use the money for that and we know it's democratic led cities, and they are defending north of 20 now, why would anyone believe the words she saying? that those cities would actually