minnie degawan is kankanaey-igorot, a people indigenous to the philippines. she is working on ways to make carbon markets more equitable. many communities are struggling, and they need an alternative source of income. instead of paying a carbon offset to a company or government, payments are made to local communities preserving their local ecosystems. so hold on - this all sounds pretty good. but there's one huge thing we haven't talked about. the idea of putting a monetary value on a tree is justweird? do you think we should put a price tag on nature? no no, absolutely not. it's sad that we have to. that's the problem. there's an ethical dilemma for communities to say that we will get monetary benefits from standing forests when we have always looked at the forest as a living ecosystem. how do you put a value, for instance, on the fact that these forests are the resting grounds of our ancestors? that definitely wouldn't make it into a price tag. in fact, most of the price tag is based on the price of carbon. so all the benefits from valuing nature basically