i am glad minouche shafik gets to live to fight another day.le hearing her say the things that those republicans in that congressional hearing, look, she read the room better than the other presidents did. >> i think that she read that room but at what cost to her university? now you see these arrests at columbia that have only redoubled the protests. >> the police, even the police have said these kids were doing nothing. >> this is remarkable. you kind of see this is exactly the situation the presidents of harvard and pan and mit were trying to avoid when they refused to say that the phrase from the river to the sea violates school rules because minouche shafik was so eager not to go down that same path, she instead committed think to this extreme and this extreme level of discipline with little precedent in recent years that has certainly not calmed down the situation on her campus. >> do you have some sense the situation will improve anytime soon? >> it doesn't look like it. the protests are still going on. you have large numbers of faculty

>> last night it was certainly not minouche shafik, it was the mob. ahmad was in charge, tomato -- there was no public safety presence at, call for the police went unheeded, minouche shafik has to do her job and bring order to this campus. it's out of hand. >> you think she should step down? she's given the student protesters quite a lot of transit here. jerk -- there still hear another inside the building bringing in pizzas. what needs to happen? >> yeah, i think it's a good conversation to be had but in the meantime while she still has a job she has to be doing more. she tried to negotiate with these individuals, she allow these illegal incumbents to fester and go on and on for weeks after weeks. as you know any other universities is being handled very differently. the police are coming immediately and cleaning about -- it emboldens them at least what we saw last night. >> definitely, thank you very much. martha that's what we're hearing from a lot of students here got a lot of the jewish threats don't feel safe -- >> martha: he makes a lot of sense

that is the situation here, we're waiting to hr from the university president minouche shafik about the next phase. i use the word phase because yesterday at the press conference, they said next phase was giving out suspensions and they did that. what is the next step? calling in the nypd? which has been according to student organizers here, the reason they stormed hamilton hall. part of the reason why is because using military-style force and police officers to clear the encampment on april 18th. we'll see as this standoff reaches a new level with occupiers inside the building. >> ainsley: behind you, they are checking ids, are they making sure they have a photo id, too? some people are taking student ids and giving to outsiders that are not student to get on campus to protest? >> bryan: we've seen they have an idscan that turns green when it is supposed to be somebody. we can give you a look without divulging people's personal identification. this person has a card and there is a red light on it and this is how people are checked to go inside. >> todd: 24 hours ago you got an update a

asked by fox yesterday, biden declined to weigh in on whether columbia university's president minouche shafik should resign he said he had to find out more about it but john fetterman has his mind made up he wrote "i fully agree with the white house. these "protests" are unconscionable and dangerous. add some tiki torches and its charlottesville's for these students. to columbia president minouche shafik do your job or resign so columbia can find someone who will" congressional democrats up for reelection like president biden are a bit more guarded. >> right now it's up to the president of columbia and these other universities to do the right thing -- >> do you think she should resign? >> i think she certainly better step up right now i will leave that to the trustees to make that decision. >> right now president biden is on his way to florida where he will be campaigning on abortion. he walked past reporters and did not say anything on his way out of the white house. will be watching to see if he says anything about this this afternoon. speech of the day is young, jacqui heinrich on the fore

. >> republicans in congress brought columbia university president minouche shafik down to washington to hear her answers and more to pointedly say questions at her. now, if the republicans in the committee were actually listening, president shafik was quite clear. here was a response to a question about whether anti- semitic speech is tolerated at columbia. >> it's abhorrent, and has has no place in our community. i think one of the issues that we are actively debating now, and which david shows her, i hope, is part of the anti- semitism task force, will help us find solutions, as you've asked for, congresswoman, is to actually clarify where language crosses the line from protected speech to discriminatory or harassing speech. >> president shafik was very precise there. the debate that should be happening on college campuses right now is the one about where the line is between first amendment speech and discriminatory speech. that is a very worthwhile conversation. but that is not the conversation we saw in the house today. instead, we sauced off like this. >> how many, could you rat

president minouche shafik says, that's included curtailing access to campus and stiffening penalties for unapproved protests. >> anti-semitism has no place on our campus, and i am personally committed to doing everything i can to confront it directly. >> reporter: administrators pressed to respond to some of the most appalling examples of anti-semitism. >> does calling for the genocide of jews violate columbia's code of conduct, mr. greenwald? >> yes, it does. >> ms. shipman? >> yes, it does. >> dr. shafik? >> yes, it does. >> reporter: columbia's leaders clearly prepared after the university of pennsylvania and harvard's presidents stumbled over the same line of questioning last year, ultimately resigning their posts. >> that calling for the genocide of jews violat violates harvard code of conduct, correct? >> again, it depends on the context. >> it does not depend on the context. the answer is, yes, and this is why you should resign. >> reporter: some questioning focused on work and commentary of certain faculty members. >> the support of terrorism is acceptable if you're a columbi

this is unacceptable, we met with the president of minouche shafik and i told her, this cannot continue: what did she say? >> is she said they tried, it was laughable on a say cuddly -- she said they tried by bringing to the police and on day one and it did not do anything, the students came back and it's only involving them. she put a midnight deadline on last night and they blew past that and they're trying to negotiate with these children. and that's what they are, they are children. they don't understand the situation in the middle east, israel is not the oppressor here, hamas is. everything that has happened in the middle east since october 7th is a direct result of hamas terrorist attack and the indiscriminate butchering of woman, children and babies. and the fact that you have these 18-year-old, 19 -year-olds was parents are paying upwards of $90,000 just send them to this institution, it is at stayner on american democracy. >> sandra: did you talk to her -- did you call for >> sandra: did you call for her to resign to her face and what did she say if you did? >> we sent a letter

they sent deputies for minouche shafik. they said the students had to sign certain forms or risk disciplinary action. students thought at 2:00 p.m., we will be here, maybe there will be the nypd or private police officers or maybe administrators will themselves come down and visit the encampment. they haven't said anything yet, and the students are feeling emboldened by it. they feel like the protest is working and sending a message to the administration and the country. every one of the protesters i talked to said they have been heartened and inspired by seeing encampments spread from, you know, here in new york, massachusetts, tennessee, indiana, california, and so they feel like their voices are now being heard at a national, if not maybe international level at this point, katy, and they are showing no sign of being interested in stopping, katy. >> what is the word from the school? because they're saying if you don't get off the lawn, they're going to start suspending people. does it look like now eventually these protes

hearing on anti-semitism this n the at columbia this week now calling on university president minouche shafik to resign. tonight the white house weighing in, saying in part, "while every american has the right to peaceful protest, calls for violence and physical intimidation targeting jewish students and the jewish community are blatantly anti-semitic, unconscionable, and dangerous, and have absolutely no place on any college campus or anywhere in the united states of america." last week, an unauthorized encampment on campus led to more than 100 arrests. >> i was one of the students arrested, suspended by the university. all of these students know the risk. >> reporter: tonight, an escalating conflict growing more contentious on campus. george solis, nbc news. >>> in washington, a high wire political act tonight for the house speaker, facing down an intensifying push by some in his party to kick him out of leadership. all of it fallout for his support of this weekend's vote to help ukraine to the tune of $60 billion. julie tsirkin is on capitol hill. >> reporter: tonight, growing pressure on

r: student protesters have set up new en new york city campus, just one columbia's president, minouche shafik, called in the nypd to clear an initial encampment of pro-palestinian demonstrators leading to the arrest of 113 people, many who will get their day in court in may. those dramatic arrests ratcheted up the tension. the protesters are angry about what they say is a lack of transparency around what financial ties the school may have to israel writing, the encampment will remain until our demand is met. >> do you think the arrests have slowed the protests down, or do you think they've inflamed things? >> i think they've inflamed things. i think the arrests really triggered a lot of the student body to mobilize. >> reporter: some faculty are concerned the university is not respecting students' free speech and right to organize. joseph hallie is jewish and an assistant professor of classics. >> i don't think anyone i know has ever felt so unsafe on campus as we did watching those cops march onto the lawn and drag our students away. >> reporter: but for some jewish students, the protests ha

and as we have learned, he will call for the resignation of columbia president minouche shafik all right. omar jimenez, let us know if anything else develops out there. really appreciate it. we also want to caution our viewers at any moment we're expecting to see president biden sign those foreign aid bills over at the white house will go to that in just a few moments from now, but i want to go back to cnn's gabe cohen. he is out outside the supreme court for us were protesters making their voices heard as the high court has been hearing arguments on emergency care abortions, gabe, you've been speaking to some of the protesters out there. what are you hearing? >> well, jim, right now we're listening to these two protests happening simultaneously over here beyond these barricades this is the anti-abortion activists who have gathered there having a program and then across between the he's barricades, these are the abortion rights activists a much larger crowd who have gathered people from all over the country including dr. caitlin gustafson, who i want to bring in your urine from rural ida

. >> reporter: egyptian-born university president minouche shafik was the fourth college chief calledthe panel. >> does calling for the genocide of jews violate columbia's code of conduct? >> yes, it does. >> reporter: these are the same questions that lead to the resignations of the presidents of harvard and university of pennsylvania. >> does calling for this be 26 of jews violate penn's rules or code of conduct? yes or no? >> it is a context-dependent decision, congresswoman pitts begets a context-dependent decision, that's your testimony today? >> reporter: at least a phonic shafik of the university's response, including professor joseph massad, who described the october 7th hamas attack as awesome, astonishing, and incredible. >> i know you can confirm he was under investigation. >> i did confirm that. >> will you make the commitment to remove him as chair? >> um... i think that would be -- i think -- i would die she asked. >> reporter: to dents attending the hearing stopped short of calling on the school's president to resign. >> i want the president of columbia to take the acti

minouche shafik is facing calls for her resignation. many jewish students say they are subjected to a hostile environment since the start of the war in gaza. >> thank you to the nypd for dismantling the encampment. >> reporter: since the october 7th attack in israel, anti-semitic incidents have tripled on college campuses, up 140% nationwide. for months, the war in gaza has divided college campuses. today, in los angeles, protests in support of free speech at usc, after the university canceled a speech by this year's valedictorian asna tabassum, citing safety concerns. jewish groups accusing her of anti-semitism, pointing to anti-israel links on social media. >> complete anti-semitic. and that makes us jewish students at usc feel unsafe, unheard, and targeted. >> reporter: tonight that valedictorian says she doesn't regret her activism. >> it's not about the speech. it's about the representation. it's about the principle. >> reporter: and david, as you can see, the situation here is not over. many student protesters telling me they plan

columbia's president minouche shafik under fire since she was grilled on capitol hill last week about anti-semitism on campus. >> "death to the zionist state. jews out." you don't think those are anti-jewish? >> completely anti-jewish. completely unacceptable. >> reporter: activists in heated arguments. and tonight, usc closing campus to anyone without a university i.d. david, just over the past half hour or so, we've noticed that campus security here has put on those helmets, there are batons. the lapd is just outside the gates of the school, as is the l.a. fire department, and speaker johnson today saying that he will speak personally with president biden, asking him to put a stop to these protests across the country, even using the national guard if necessary, david. >> david: matt gutman live in los angeles, a familiar scene across this country tonight. matt, thank you. >>> we turn to the images of hersh goldberg polin, the son who was forced into the back of that pickup truck by hamas at that music festival. part of his arm had been blown off. tonight, for the first time in 201 d

minouche shafik, faced harsh questioning from a republican-led house committee over the university's. a focus point was shafik handling of joseph masson, a tenured professor at columbia who publish comments in october calling the hamas attack a stunning victory. >> do you condemn professor masson statement? has he face any consequences for it? >> congressman, i do condemn his statement. i am appalled by what he said. >> any consequences? >> he has been spoken to. >> spoken to? >> and i think you could -- >> so support of terrorism is acceptable if you're a columbia professor? >> not at all. and i do say -- but he's been spoken to. >> i didn't get to -- >> i have your answer. let me, let me move on here. >> well, what's a partisan political. without elise stefanik? the once normally republican who took a victory lap in january as harvard university president claudine trent 24 announced her resignation after fierce criticism of the university's response to the hamas attack. the phonic serves as the fourth in line in the house majority leadership ranks, and is clearly auditioning to be

because this is a private campus so they cannot come in unless they get the call from president minouche shafikng to sources to ask them to come in but i will -- 5:00 is when everything that will happen from the president with all these protesters again to get out or get suspended by here is for 45 here and they still haven't left. back you. >> charles: alexis, thank you very much now to capitol hill where there's a major debate over these protests. fox news aishah hasnie is in washington with more on that. >> charles,, democrats at least in the house and senate i would say usually are very, very united when it comes most issues but on this one israel that they've been pretty divided and very vocal about it as of late. the house and actually expected to keeping boots on anti-semitism bill coming up this week. authored by congressman mike waller. there's already a little bit of drama are discriminate below the department of education brought like a broader definition for anti-semitism under college campuses. it basically makes it easier to defund any schools not enforcing that. it is expected to

a columbia's president, doctor minouche shafik, said that she is not afraid to enact the university'ss. >> we have already suspended 15 students from columbia. we have six on disciplinary probation. these are more disciplinary actions that have been taken probably in the last decade at columbia. >> well, the department of education is investigating columbia and several other schools for alleged civil rights violations. >> some disneyland employees are filing a petition to form a labor union. this movement is among the parade and character performers at disneyland in anaheim, the group says more than two thirds of the 1700 eligible workers signed the petition. a formal vote would likely be held next month or possibly june. this potential new union would form under the actors equity association, which represents performers at the disney parks in florida. disney officials say they support the workers right to hold a confidential vote on whether or not to unionize, and the anaheim city council unanimously approved disney's proposal to expand its park. now, this would not expand the physic

minouche shafik who heads up columbia should have been fired long ago. green earth believe she landed her job totally because of objective merit? if she were a white male with a border of trustees, even of considered hiring her? and speaking of the board of trustees, notice you haven't heard from any of them. some prestigious people including former obama dhs secretary jeh johnson, david greenwald, former chairman of goldman sachs. adam pritzker, cousin of billionaire illinois governor j.b. j.b. and a leftist organizer in his own right. and many, many other ultra liberal types have governing authority at the university as a member of the board of trustees. and, yet, they are all silent. talk about profiles in courage. every time a deadline was set for the brats to disperse, it was ignored. and the university just kept extending the deadline until the students decided what the heck? let's storm a building. let really make some waves. look at how real universities handle these left wing student temper tantrums. >> after some pro-hamas students kicked up a

minouche shafik needs to resign and if she doesn't want to reside, you better do something about thisad to worse. >> will have to see what laid out here with the presidents -- are not fun of her either so it's not just the jewish students that are calling for her to resign and their parents will pay all this money to send them to the schools but also the forecasters. once again we did try to talk to them, try to get in there and take a look at the incoming that we were not invited into will keep you posted if we're anything from them, sandra. >> sandra: alexis mcadams keep us posted live at columbia as we are watching what's happening poorly out of nyu. our next guest encountered exactly what we were discussing the growing threats on the college campuses. chris is that university student scene in this milieu who said he felt terrified during this on-campus incident that happened on saturday and now joins us. by the way we did reach out to the yale university president for an interview and -- and have not yet heard back. thank you for joining us today. please do weigh and now and he is

firestorm began on april 17th, when a congressional committee grilled columbia university president minouche shafik about antisemitism at student protests against the war in gaza. >> antisemitism has no place on our campus and i am personally committed to doing everything i can to confront it directly. >> reporter: she promised to crack down on the protesters. and she did. >> for what reason? i'm just standing on the sidewalk. >> reporter: the columbia news enraged students on other campuses nationwide. for many college administrators it's a no-win situation. >> it is presenting a near existential threat to the very fabric of the universities' life. >> reporter: dan mogolov is a public affairs officer at the uft of california berkeley, where this week's protests have been peaceful. >> these campuses are supposed to be areas for free speech. >> we have an unwavering and absolute commitment to free speech. but the university like all public institutions is allowed to have time, place and manner rules. meaning the right to free expression is not absolute. you can't interfere with or disrupt the operat

now it was the president of columbia university, minouche shafik, who republicans had in the hot seathat these hearings are really about is jelani cobb , dean of the columbia's universities school of journalism. it has been a busy time on campus. can you give me a sense of what is happening on your campus? there was a hearing today where i feel like we didn't actually get an accurate picture of how deep the battle lines run in with the fundamental arguments are around. >> it is contested. there are debates, heated debates, happening. there are protests and demonstrations and counter protests and counter demonstrations. just as this has become a hugely polarizing issue in lots of different avenues of american life, we are seeing that play out on the university campus, where people are supposed to engage with ideas. they're supposed to debate. they're supposed to think about these things critically and so on so we are seeing a lot of that happen. in addition, on the day today, people are going to class, learning, reading, preparing to graduate and all the things that happen in a normal

columbia's president, doctor minouche shafik, said she is not afraid to enact the university's policies. >> we have already suspended 15 students from columbia. we have six on disciplinary probation. these are more disciplinary actions that have been taken probably in the last decade at columbia. >> the department of education is also investigating columbia and several other schools for alleged civil rights violations. >> now that they found the body, though, this is a game changer. >> a woman reported missing months ago is now confirmed dead . her connection to the alleged killer, as police continue to search for a second victim. >> also, new allegations on the conditions inside san francisco jails, where inmates have reportedly become violent. what one attorney says may be influencing their behavior and was last night the last time we'll see the warriors big three play together coming up a little later. >> hear from klay thompson about what the future may hold for him and golden state bay women took another turn. police now say a body discovered months ago is a woman who was reported

calvin pickard is continuing to grow saying they should be let in immediately calling on many -- minouche shafik the campus door please protesters and allow them amnesty ability committed crimes in there. they broke the glass can be damaged to property where my things are still tense though that they can be even more change. watch. back out here live you can tell you that there has been issue of force here from the nypd. i will step -- and can kind of see the main crew hear that pulled up. they used to this though. this happens on a daily basis. remember down here we see the nypd coming remedy for gartner's unties in case they have to do that but the school has to ask them to come in first. >> martha: >> charles: >> neil: incredible. you got your $90,000 worth there. i want to switch to the other big developments -- talking about -- you have to go about halfway down manhattan island to get with of course this new york state supreme court, that will refine our need for karabela from this is the five of testimony back and forth in the trial. let's get the latest from you, nate. >> is in the past 1

has again become the epicenter of protests classes have gone hybrid, and columbia's president minouche shafik called in the nypd to clear the encampment, the restaurant more than 100 students one day earlier, schiff, he gave testimony before congress in that hearing, republican lawmakers grilled her on what they described as anti-semitism among the protesters the progress and the responses raised big questions, joining me now to discuss all this, are bruce robins and bret stephens, bruises a professor at columbia's department of english and comparative literature, but is a columnist the new york times bruce, let me start with, you. >> ask you, what do you think has, has gone wrong at columbia over the last few weeks well, most of the faculty and i think the student body think that what's gone wrong is calling the police that the protest was calm well-organized, not violent. >> there is little, if any intimidation of anyone and there are people who don't agree with the protesters who absolutely don't agree with bringing in the police. i think that's the single biggest thing the other thing tha

we understand it, columbia's faculty senate will be voting on a resolution to censure a doctor minouche shafik see there's been a lot of outside political pressure, right? as we've seen with leaders in congress, the house speaker mike johnson calling for her resignation as well for the way that she has been actually on the opposite side. i guess not protecting the safety of jewish students and not cracking down hard enough. do you believe that some of these university presidents need to resign okay. >> two things i think the important thing is to understand that this outside political pressure is unacceptable in a democracy, higher education is many things it's a producer of knowledge. it should be an engine of social mobility. it's also a crucial check on government and corporate corruption. >> so i, american higher ed is the envy of the world because it's based on academic freedom and shared governance and that's where we ought to begin that higher education is a check on it's a crucial check on democracy. >> it's independent higher ed is as important to democracy as voting and we should und

here they mentioned the letter issued by president minouche shafik, she said since wednesday, a smallogue with student organizers that will find a path that will result in dismantling the encampment in adherence with university policies. she goes on to say the encampment itself has created an unwelcoming environment for jewish students and faculty. external actors have contributed to creating a hostile environment here, especially around the gates that's unsafe for everyone, going on to say she wants to reassure the community that they are trying to create plans to hold commencement, whether or not that's at columbia or somewhere else remains to be seen, and of course concluding by saying that they gave the demonstrators here until 2:00 p.m. to voluntarily disburse. what happens now in lieu of these statements and comments made by the organizers obviously remains to be seen. earlier this afternoon, the university issuing another quick statement issuing that the rumor of a state of emergency here on campus was also completely false. we are obviously now in the waiting game, and obvious

pro-palestinian protests and encampments have spread in the past week, since columbia university president minouche shafikefore a congressional committe about antisemitism on campus. many are students, but not all are from the respective school where they are protesting. earlier in the day, at least 60 people were arrested at yale. there have been similar protests at emerson, mit, boston university, the university of michigan, and the university of california. columbia has been the flashpoint for a week now. hundreds of students have turned out for protests. on thursday, shafik called the new york police department to break up tent encampments, and more than 100 protesters were arrested. many students and faculty say shafik's crackdown has been excessively harsh and squelches free speech. >> the people united will never be defeated. geoff: but some students, particularly jewish students, as well as some alumni and faculty, say there's too much hostility on campus, leading some to feel threatened for their safety. michael d'agostino is a junior at the engineering school. he's not jewish, but says he's watc

minouche shafik said students participating in the protest would be suspended.ed the daughter of u.s. congresswoman ilhan omar. police made several arrests, and removed the tents put up by protesters. they did not say what charges the protesters would face. president biden picked up endorsements from members of the famed kennedy family today. it was a rebuke against robert f. kennedy jr., who is running as an independent. members of the prominent democratic family appeared with the president at a campaign event in philadelphia. kerry kennedy, daughter of the late rfk, said president biden shares many of the same values as her father. >> daddy stood for equal justice, for human rights, and freedom from want and fear, just as president biden does today. [applause] donald trump mocks these values just as he mocks our system of laws. william: kennedy didn't mention her brother, rfk junior, by name, but she did allude to him, saying, quote, there are only two candidates with any chance of winning the presidency. there were dramatic scenes on capitol hill today, as ho

. >> lawmakers grilling columbia university president minouche shafik wednesday as part of their investigation into allegations elite schools have failed to protect jewish students and staff. she's trying to avoid the same fate as the presidents of harvard and university of pennsylvania, who both resigned shortly after an explosive congressional hearing in december. >> columbia claims to work in god's light. sadly for all the jewish students on their campus, this could not be further from the truth. >> some lawmakers claim some of the worst incidents of anti-semitism happened on columbia's campus, but president shafik came in prepared for lawmakers lines of questioning. >> we have already suspended 15 students from columbia. we have six on disciplinary probation. these are more for disciplinary actions that have been taken, probably in the last decade at columbia, columbia university and several other schools are also under investigation by the department of education for alleged civil rights violations in washington. >> rebecca kaster, ktvu, fox two news well, the oakland roots and souls socc

from new yorke don't want to the started on wednesday when the columbia university president minouche shafik was in washington testifying before lawmakers responding to reports of antisemitism on campus. >> subsequently, there was also a presence not just students, but also faculty setting up tents and signs here on the campus itself but the organizers of this event, making their msage quite clear, saying at their hop ishat they wilpressure columbia university peonally to divest funds om companies connected israel cnn has reached t to the univeity to address for more on notust theiinvestments, but also to addrs the allegaons that organizers. but eventually this evolved into an enmpment, a large onat the university president declared a disturbance. so turn to th nypdsendg them a letr asking for for police officers essentially interject and stents are parcipating in e it. the result was welover 100 people that were detained will be issued courts zones. but really what this is now is remains here on the camp of peaceful presence of a mix of both current a non stunts here, hong to continue with

still indian cabinet and anderson as your viewers would like to know today, university president minouche shafik put out a statement to the protesters in the encampment, saying they had until 2:00 p.m. to disband. and like i said, there are dozens of students define the university presence orders and still out on the lawns what's interesting to know is that this morning, minutiae feet an email to the columbia community at about 8:00 a.m. notifying people that negotiations between the students and the administrators had indeed ended. however, what was not said in the email was that at about 10:00 a.m. the university administration began to drop pamphlets in the encampment, notifying students of this too. pm deadline. as you can imagine, that drew a lot of people to campus to protect the students from potential eviction by the administration so that actually drew more people to the encampment. >> so at this point, you said how large is the incumbent, right now to roughly? >> yeah. so since the encampment has been on the university grounds since wednesday, april 17, there have been roughly 200 stud

police the, horse with the shadow of potential viewpoint discriminant discrimination you've got minouche shafik speaking before congress suggesting she's looking to punish maybe some pro-palestinian protected speech. then we see what's happening on campuses like ut austin where it's a public campus protest is has an extra layer of protection from state law and we've got the governor preempting preemptively shutting down and sending in authorities to shut down peaceful protests. so definitely a bit of a mixed bag here. and obviously, as we do with fire, we want administrators people in charge, even the governor in every situation to be looking at the facts and protecting peaceful protest whenever possible, where is the line? >> and let me ask a question from the what richard nixon, my call the silent majority. what about the right of students who just want to go to college and enjoy commencement without thinking about the horrible activity, is going on in any part of the world well, you know, they've got the right to go to class. >> i wouldn't necessarily agree that they have the right to be tot

add some tiki torches and it's charlottesville for these jewish students to columbia president minouche shafik do your job or resigned. so columbia can find someone who will and fetterman is not the only one calling for her resignation today. house republican elise stefanik posted on twitter, after months of a piecing radical pro terror professors columbia is leadership has surrendered the campus to violent pro hamas anti-semites. president shafik has failed her most basic duty. keep keeping students safe. she must resign unquote. let's bring in our political panel to discuss a rascal. then we start with you just to underscore the dilemma in which president biden finds himself, the white house came out very strong against some of the hateful antisemitism we've, we've heard of columbia, but this is what joe biden said today when asked about the protest i condemn protest. that's why i've set up to do that. i also condemned those who don't understand what's going on with the palestinians i also condemned those who don't understand what's going on with the palestinians you know, it's a difficult l

. >> and by monday morning, colombia's president, minouche shafik declare that all classes would be virtual for the day, and that a reset was needed. i am deeply saddened by what is happening on our campus. she wrote in a statement, these tensions have been exploited and amplified by individuals who are not affiliate good with columbia, who have come to campus to pursue their own agendas many of the students here are saying who are graduating are saying they're not sure what graduation is going to look like this here. and those who are part of the encampment are saying that they intend to be here for graduation, that they are not leaving addition pro-palestinian protests are taking place at universities across the country including yale nyu, and mit and today anderson, a number of faculty members and employees of the school actually walked out to stand in solidarity with the students who are protesting in the middle of the campus but also they're protesting what the school did here in ordering the arrest of those students last week, anderson shimon prokupecz. thanks very much. just a head.

firestorm began on april 17th when a congressional committee grilled columbia university president minouche shafika. >> antisemitism has no place on our campus and i am personally committed to doing everything i can to confront it directly. >> reporter: she promised to crack coudown on the protesters and she did. >> for what reason? i'm just stepping on the sidewalk. >> reporter: it enraged students on other campuses nationwide. for many college administrators, it's a no-win situation. >> it's an existential threat to the fabric of the university's life. >> reporter: dan rather a public affairs officer at the university of california-berkeley where the protests have been peaceable. >> they are supposed to be areas for free speech. we have an unwaiver and absolute commitment to free speech. the university like all public institutions is allowed to have time, place and manner rules. the right to free expression is not absolute. you can't interfere or disrupt the operations of the university. >> reporter: and that's the problem. many colleges say that the protests violate those time and place rules a

. >> then we've got colombia's president minouche shafik who clearly wasn't going to make the same mistake in front of a congressional hearing that led to the ouster of the presidents of harvard and pen jonah, are these college presidents, have they wised up and are they changing their two? oh, clearly, i mean, they're getting a message to the president of pomona drew a hard lines, has got ten minutes to get to my office. you're not here. you don't have permission& kick them out. i think that's the right thing to do. i think i don't think anybody actually get dressed your question about the antisemitism part i like like the anti-semitism isn't whether it's disruptive or not, you can have disruptive anti-semitism are non-disruptive anti-semitism the question is, like, are people being singled out? american jews being singled out for the actions of another country that they're not, that they don't live in. and you see jewish members of the administration being picketed and their homes and singled out there. wait for the anthony blinken's kids again in the car before they say hateful and terr

now, this comes as columbia university president minouche shafik released a statement this morning saying that essentially negotiations between students protesters and the university hidden impasse effectively the end of negotiations, one of the headlines from that letter that she put out is saying that club university should he will not divest from israel, which of course was one of the central points of why this in kammen actually began at this university. now, also well, as part of that letter, it said that they would invest in health and health care and education in gaza, but also that while they've tried to foster an environment, four disruptive conversation and even provide a space for protests that some of the encampment and some of the tactics around it in and around the campus have created an on environment that was not welcome for jewish students for many jewish students, and so much so to the point that many chose to leave campus, a dynamic that the president called absolutely tragic. the p this morning a commencement and part because the graduating class was virtual when they

or in that now from cnn's shimon prokupecz mounting pressure for columbia university president minouche shafik as she works to try to negotiate with student organizers on campus. >> she extended the deadline for negotiations by 48 hours, working to dismantle the encampment that has taken over much of campus it's pretty disheartening to see all this on canvas. i will say, i think a lot of people are misguided pro-palestinian protesters are demanding columbia cut off financial ties with israel. our plan is to be hearing till the university divest, disclose, and provides amnesty for all you could see there are at least fifth the 2705 tenths that remain here. many of the students who are part of this movement have been sleeping in these tents, have been eating here adding pressure to the situation. house speaker mike johnson visited campus today meeting with jewish students and calling on the university president to resign. >> i am here today joining my colleagues and calling on president should be to resign. if she cannot immediately bring order to this chaos enjoy your free speech for months. re

the president of columbia minouche shafik released a statement that said in part quote, we have our demands. they have there's and i heard from other folks in the world of university authorities that were surprised by that statement. do you think as an expert in negotiation that president shafik gave away leveraged by suggesting basically that the university and the students are on some sort of equal playing field. >> well, that's certainly a reasonable perspective it's important to keep in mind that president shafik is an experienced the international diplomat. and in the early stages of this movement i think she brought from her own historical background in mediation approach, trying to create a dialogue and let all the voices be heard i think imagining that she could reach a resolution that would be satisfactory to all parties. >> but the breadth of this movement i think has taken us all by surprise. and she's now embroidering in a negotiation which is a very different process now, it's about proposals, counter demands, and frankly power now it's a very different game. >> yeah, i underst

important to point out that the columbia board saying that it's strongly stands behind president minouche shafik as they tried to work out a potential resolution here. meanwhile, we have also heard recently from the columbia college deans say recognizing very clearly that there have been without questions instances of intimidation and harassment. and that is something that the university says. it's still trying to certainly address with disciplinary action when they can, but also recognizing that there are limits to controlling what some of the community actually says, especially off-campus. and that is the other to the other side of the story that a conversation that's happening about how to address that as well, but still continue concerns about non-students there are people that are not affiliated with the university from potentially trespassing on campus. and that is another issue that the university is still trying to address. really that encampment that has led to still to standoff between members of this student organizations holding that in cabinet at the same time. also, speaking to the