hamilton shows it to minsky, let a step back. donald simmons was 65, an african-american guy who had liver cancer and came to get a transplant. his children were here. he really wanted to vote for obama. he loved jazz. his wife was a very nice person. they moved from springfield massachusetts to be near their kids. the franken team in the absentee ballot content found his name subpoenaed to him and mr. simmons called back and said you know, he's dead. they still pursued it, the franken team did. mr. minsky, hamilton says. this is the same individual were discussing before the break? that is correct he says. can you read the name and date of death of this voter? the persons name is donald peter simmons. the date of death was december 27 mansky said. his vote should count. and mansky says yes. three weeks later with the judges counted the absentee ballots, donaldson's vote was counted. he was one of the 312. so that's what organization is in determination. you know -- most of you know i'm not really a political pundit, but i'm kind