we've got marvin minsky with the fancy hands there. marvin minsky is, referred to as the father of artificial intelligence. and then we've got john von wayman was a mentor of minsky and is responsible for the underlying architecture of every computer everywhere and then we've got larry page and circuit, the founders of google. what do these folks have in common? they are dudes. what else? they are white dudes. anything else? how about their background? they are english-speaking. anything else about the educational background? they are math guys. these are white dudes mathematical backgrounds from western countries. they have short hair. are white, and they are ivy leaguers more or less. there is nothing wrong with being an ivy league educated white dude mathematician. some of my best friends in fact, ivy league educated white dude mathematicians. but there's a problem here, which is that everybody embeds their own biases in technology. people embed the own biases in technology. so when we have a small and homogeneous group of people ma

marvin minsky got on the phone and said, tell me about dan dennett. the greatest philosopher since russell. six was later identified checking and let me read you what you said about dan dennett, the greatest philosopher since russell. and i said what. [laughter] what i meant, he was great but he is only philosopher that understands what we do. but you become one of the people that does the real stuff. so where is cognitive science and philosophy begin. let's talk about the role of philosophy in a.i. because frankly i don't get it. i don't understand it. there is a subfield in a.i. which is funded with cognitive science that roughly occupies the position to experimental physics and that is that people who have done their homework they know the technology that they know how to probe but they're interested in theoretical questions and they're interested in helping the engineers in the anti- people sort out and understand what they're up to. >> a subfield of philosophy in a.i. >> yeah right. it's been my good fortune to be tutored over the last 30 or 40 y