. >>> let's get right to the rest of the world with today's terrific panel zanny minton bellows is the editor in chief of "the economist" and richard hawes is the professor emeritus on the council of foreign relations. welcome both. you were in kyiv about the same time i was and you interviewed zelenskyy, and there was an interesting thing that came across in your interview which i thought was zelenskyy saying i hear all these western leaders telling me they're with me, but i look in their eyes, and i wonder and think maybe they're not. >> he said exactly that. before that he said i have good intuition and my intuition has served me well and he made this point and quite a powerful point because i think he really does realize that the support that was there is in certain quarters perhaps not as strong as it was and he came to washington after you and i saw him and he felt that very strongly and it was a very different reception from the last time he was in washington. i'm not sure how dangerous it is right now. i'm particularly worried about the u.s. i think in the u.s. going into an el

. >>> and we are back here on "gps" with the economists zanny minton beddoes and richard haass. richard, what happened, for those who don't understand, nagorno-karabakh was an enclave and i think no other country in the world had recognized it but it had been protected and now azerbaijan is running it over. it is a huge human tragedy. what is the geopolitical angle here. >> it is disappearing and it is a human tragedy. geopolitically, i think the most interesting part of this is about russia. for 30 years this special situation has been maintained and russia allowed it or in some ways enabled it to be maintained. >> russian peace keepers. >> 100% and they've stopped. and they've pulled back and watch this all unfold, the tragedy of it. i don't think it is that cynical. i don't think they wanted this. my guess is, fareed, and you and zanny may disagree with me, they have a lot on their plate right now in ukraine and elsewhere and the plate is small. we think of russia as a great power. it is less than that. it has capabilities, yes, but it is thought a great power. it can't multi

officially introduced border controls, but everyone knows that in order to get from italian ventimi to minton to be patient. queues 10-12 hours, because half of those who sailed to lampedusa are unsuccessfully trying to break through there, sitting between attempts at the caritas charity foundation. most of it goes to germany, switzerland, and england. french-speaking, of course, to france. these are families from guinea and coddivo. a lot from sudan and eritrea. second-hand clothes from the church and pasta with tomatoes are not accepted with gratitude by everyone. after a year and a half, europe has learned to understand the difference between refugees and refugees from ukraine. it’s not just a matter of how they are received, where they settle and how quickly they print residence permits. swiss authorities have come to the conclusion that maintaining the ukraine project is so expensive that it will be cheaper for the country to encourage refugees to return home for a reward. many have something to leave with, as financial times writes, words do not go well because of the state’s generosity

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