>> anthony, this is the major. >> julio cesar gonzalez is the current mayor of miraflores, which has how many people in this town? >> there's around 1,500 to 2,000 in the municipality. the farc were here for 20 years, and they were the central authority here. >> you're running a subsistence farm growing plantains and not much else. you're not eating particularly well, you're not particularly happy with the government. somebody comes along and offers you a nice machine gun and a cool scarf -- >> yeah. >> especially if you're 15, 16 years old, that's a pretty attractive offer. >> of course, it is. >> even if they say you'll probably be dead by the time you're 25. >> it is. >> come on. >> it is, and they offer you a salary. >> so what is the future of this town? [ speaking spanish ] >> they're providing free education, but there's a lot of potential in biodiversity and ecotourism as well. >> what a lot of people say is, without the customer, there's no cocaine trade and there's no violence, right? so if the united states and europe stopped buying cocaine? >> that's so impossible that i