he started miramax and i decided i wanted to be in the management and production business and off we both went. >> rose: so what have you learned? you went t see -- same thing, you went to siebernny brill? >> bernie brill and seen the. >> rose: bernie brill steen. you walk into the polo lounge and he has a tape-- i'm setting the scene. how did you get the appointment. >> i just called him. and bernie was the most accessible and lovable and interesting show business figure. >> rose: so why did he take the call? >> well, he -- that's what was so wonderful about beie. he would takanyo's cl. he really would. he was fantastic and i think of him everyday. i miss him so much. but i called him and i said "i'm going to be -- i am in the management business, i represent these few comedians. >> rose: who did you represent at that time? >> bob saget. >> rose: well, that's good. >> yes. and bob saget, dave call yay, gary shandling. it was a handful of comedians. and i said if you gave me a chance i think i could help you build your company. and i assumed he would say that's very sweet of you kid,