i'm joined by miri eisin and director of the international institute for counter-terrorism. ri, welcome. so if you were in response to define israel's strategy, how would you describe it? >> destroying hamas is very challenging as he said. but what the israeli strategy is, is we're focusing on their military terror capabilities. that is actually something that you could break down in a very specific way. you're going after 16 years of building positions, accumulating weapons, building the subterranean arena and training these different thousands of terrorists and that is what israel is doing with the military capability. it goes hand in hand with the diplomacy, because of the issue of the hostages, you want to try to get to the hostages, that is part of the picture. but it is most definitely focusing on destroying military capabilities and thinking about that next day of what will come instead. >> so if it is focused on destroying those specific military capabilities presumably these are tunnels, these are passage ways, these are weapons caches. shouldn't there be a greater e

i've been speaking to miri eisin, a retired idf colonel and director of the international institute forew the circumstances around those hostages and whether it had been part of a failed rescue bid. what we are talking about are bodies that were found while israel was acting, the idf forces in the ground operation in the northern gaza strip. the details that have come out are that all three are individuals who were kidnapped on 7th of october and were seen alive on 7th of october, and the initial reports that have come out of israel — because they still don't have details — is that they were murdered by hamas in captivity and found in the tunnels themselves. one of them was 19 and, as his mother said, he had asthma and they kidnapped him without his, because in the israeli military, it is conscriptees, you know, it is not the kind of military that you are used to, and she was very worried about him the entire time. i don't know to say additional details, this is what the idf has let out until now. just to clarify, though, your special forces are trying to get the hostages out. there was

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