. >> my name is miriam gordon, i am the program director for upstream. i want to thank supervisor brown for this measure, and the department of the environment for the very factual information that we just heard. i am a veteran of the plastic bag and wars in sacramento. it was extremely disturbing to me that we had to take the poison pill of this definition of film bags becoming characterized as reusable. it has led to this regrettable consequence that in some cases more plastic is being used as a result. this is a very important measure to fix the problem. as usual, san francisco is one of the cities taking the lead on this. as well as on the produce bags. we want to supports, with great enthusiasm, this measure and just say, i have a few slides from some of the cleanups that our newest staff member has been conducting. you can see that these plastic bags that are supposed to be reusable are also being considered litter. they are easily littered. we do need to get people to have an incentive for people to bring, to switch to the truly reusable bags. tha