he made public statements that were very harshly critical of sheriff mirkarimi cyrus to -- as to the underlying issues. on that basis, we will expect that he not be included as an expert or otherwise. >> do you agree that your have to be offering affirmative expert testimony on the subjects listed? >> we are concerned about his own self description as fully rehabilitated, accepting accountability, coming to you from the perspective of restorative justice, having already traversed that process. we do not agree with those statements. we have heard them again in the media. we do enough will confront than they -- confront them. i am not comfortable saying the issue will not come up. it may not come up with an affirmative expert on their side. we might need extra test run to rebut some of the testimony based on what he says his media. >> may i make one point. normally experts come to cases with backgrounds. bijan a promise to be neutral observers. some people knew i am in no -- it is not usually, in civil practice, the normal practice is to determineif th if they have additional. that is