they're self misdefying. often the press cores is put on this position of having accolades there's this sense that this is irks rakular. i think it's quite deliberately cricketted that way. there is a place that's quyzy special that you know, may just be because we don't have a religion in this country. and the other other thing i wanted to say and this goes toe something emily says, we're also very conflicted because we want to know the jusities as people. it's very important to understand that we know sotomayor mom's sitting there. we need to see that. this conversation here -- this was the first time where people >> calling in and crying. will >> they were so movered by this women's stair. -- but when you look at the popularity rates, the more we know them, the less we like them. the guy who is have the lowest ratings the guys talking on cnn, no offense. the people who sort of throw open their ropes an show us the person inside -- >> you know, enough about clarence thomas, ok? really. love the guy y lone.