it's a law that is based on fear misin it it's creating incredible problem for nw arizona.hink when you started using, start trying to commonize people and start blaming -- demonize people, it's taking about social and economic problems and put them all in the back of immigration without looking at the root causes of what the problems are or the contributions that immigrants have made to the country. i'm very pleased that the courts ruled wait they did. it sent a clear message that laws that transcend what the local political environment is. unquestionably what is going on in arizona is very toxic. it creates a significant amount of hate. it's very counterproductive. >> i want the ask you because you work with so many first generation immigrants, many recently arrived people, what do you say when you hear the other side of the debate, when people say, these people broke the law. they are here without papers. they came here illegally? >> i think a lotrhetoric rhetors hypocritical. my father came as an undocumented immigrant, yet when they needed him to fight in world war ii,

what steps would you take to keep california students come pet misin those fields. >> we need to get away from the teaching and testing we are doing now with just reading and math. we need expand our curriculum so that -- in fact teachers tell me i don't have time to teach ardsdiate standards.ave to that's nonsense. we're crushing the curriculum to meet -- the bubble testing, the two areas of concentration, reading and math, and it's not all of reading or all of math. we need to assure that we have more critical thinking type of courses, more problem-solving, that science and technology are met by working together, having the technology for kids to use in the classroom so they can step into the world with that background behind them. right now -- i met with 30 students from berkeley yesterday. we had a great meeting. i asked them about their high school experience. you don't want to hear what they had to say. it really is deadly for them that what we're doing is basically moving away from the courses that expanght n them. right n thee're cutting in the midst of our cuts -- we're cutt