the committee staff has already interviewed all the witnesses that miss ford cited, interviewed miss ford and judge kavanaugh for six hours. >> dickerson: mr. judge sent them a letter that wasn't an interview. >> they have either interviewed them for received letters under penalty of perjury. >> dickerson: these are actual interviews. >> if any of these people under penalty of perjury change their claims. >> but that's why we have investigations. have a neutral fact pattern, clearly the members which of the tee want kavanaugh to be confirmed. so why should people want him to be confirmed why not have neutral observessers wrestle the facts to the ground so it's not a waste of time. >> john, we already know what everyone who is alleged to be at the party has said. they submitted statements or been interviewed under penalty of perjury, i would be shocked if any changed their statement under penalty of perjury to the fbi f. this makes a few senators more comfortable about going forge war and voting on judge kavanaugh's very highly qualified nomination, in the face of an orchestrated democ

bunch politicians who politicized this from day one, lying in wait for a political purpose, not miss ford, but certainly them. making a bunch of speeches and miss mitchell, methodically went through the facts of what happened that day, leading up to that day and how we find ourselves here. from my point of view i'm pleased with what i saw. >> senator, laid out about your own background as prosecutor and defense attorney as a judge. >> yeah. >> did you sitting up there find dr. ford to be credible? >> i didn't find her allegations to be corroborated against mr. kavanaugh. i don't doubt something happened to her but she is saying that brett kavanaugh, can't tell me how, city, can't tell me the month of the year. he is saying i didn't do it. here is what you do, when you have a emotional accusation and emotional denial, you use the rule of law, presumption of innocence attaches to the person accused. you have to give them notice and time to, time and location. you ask is there anybody to verify this? when you give names, all of them go the other way. having said that, what do i think about m

obviously they've mailed tremendous unpress dentsed accommodations for miss ford to testify on thursday. judge kavanaugh has been willing to testify publicly to what he has said privately under oath from day one. less than 24 hours after he was made aware of the identity of miss ford, he said he would raise histestify add to his 30-plus hours of testimony. i thought that his comment last night about the second so-called accuser is incredibly instructor. he's calling this a smear campaign. indeed, starting to feel like a vast left wing conspiracy. "the new york times" said they interviewed dozens of people over the last couple weeks, trying to verify the second accusation. they couldn't go ford with the reporting. not because they're supportive of president trump's nominee but because they have some standards. this fact, "the new york times" also reports that ramirez was asking people if they remembered and telling them she couldn't be sure either. i know there's pent-up demand for women to get their day, women who have been sexually r harassed and sexually assaulted. i'm very aggrieved

who have politicized this from day one, who have been lying in wait for a political purpose, not miss ford, but certainly them, making a bunch of speeches, and miss mitchell methodically went through the facts of what happened that day leading up to that day and how we find ourselves here. so from my point of view i'm pleased with what i saw. >> do you still want to vote on friday? >> i do. >> given what you laid out about your own background as a prosecutor and defense attorney and judge, did you sitting up there find dr. ford to be credible? >> i didn't find her allegations to be corroborated against mr. kavanaugh. i don't doubt something happened to me. she is saying it's brett kavanaugh, can't tell me the house, the city, the month of the year. he's telling me i didn't do it. here's what you do when you have an emotional accusation and you have an an emotional denial, you use the rule of law, the presumption of innocence attaches to the accused, have to give them notice of time and location. ask is there anybody to verify that, and when you give names, all of them go the other way. hav

came on, brett cavanagh had that interview aired on fox news and here's what he had to say about miss ford's allegations against him. >> i never had any sexual or physical activity with doctor ford.

not miss ford but them. making a bunch of speeches and miss mitchell went through the facts of what happened to that day and what went through that. i'm pleased with what i saw. >> given your becoackground, di you find her to be credible? >> i did find her allegations to be corroborated against mr. kavanaugh. i don't doubt something happened to her. she can't tell me the house, the city, the month of the year. he is saying i didn't do it. here is what you do. when you have emotional accusation and emotional denial. you use the rule of law, the presumption of sneinnocence attaches to the person accused. you asked is there anybody to verify this. when you give names, all of them go the other way. having said that, would i think about miss ford, mr. competent, accomplished lady. something happened. i don't know what. you're asking me to say it was brett kavanaugh and i don't know when it happened, where it happened. he said it didn't happen. i thought it was a good suggestion for her to talk to somebody to work

if miss ford, doctor ford wants to be heard and wants to testify, why didn't she go to the court system when the incident happened, file a report, then the investigation would have been done. it's not going to be done now. >> guest: in the first place . she was 15 years of age most people do not report. she now is an adult, has watched the process, she can come forward to testify initially, she just came forward to offer information . she wanted to frankly conceal her identity for her safety and it turns out she was right. because once it becameknown, she's had to move . >> we are going to leave but you can find this on c-span.org, senators returning from their lunch meetings.

republicans have been trying to erode the credibility of miss ford. how much have they succeeded? >> dr. ford offered compelling testimony. >> they would not have to give questions. offering their support to dr. ford. , throughout most of this can we are halfway done in terms of dr. ford's portion of the hearing. it will go well into the late afternoon and evening by all accounts. judge kavanaugh will have his portion of the hearing. he wanted to have a small team in terms of preparing him for his portion of the hearing. come fromts that have republicans on the committee are quiet following the first half of the hearing. they are waiting to see how this plays out. the president has changed his schedule with regards to meetings he was supposed to have . he was supposed to be with the deputy attorney general. now we are hearing that will be next week following developments of the deputy attorney general and questions of his standing within the administration. the president watching portions of the hearing on air force one from his return to washington where he spent the first half of

well i think it's very important that republicans have no other choice you have to hear from miss ford and you have to accommodate whatever environment is most appropriate to hear her testimony i think is the right move by grassley and by republicans i believe what we will hear come from democrats going forward though is that the background check by the f.b.i. is incomplete and so they will demand that the f.b.i. now complete its background check of cabin all based on this additional information democrats will use that as a way to continue to stall the confirmation vote if you will you know the immediate reaction to that though has been one of skepticism from a lot of americans suggesting miss ford has the offer to testify perhaps he should go ahead with the monday meeting we will find out on monday. beyond painting tell them oh as the victim trump has been pretty restrained in engine small instances that. he has you know there's been some story lines that he has been counseled by his daughter ivanka that apparently she has suggested it might be time to back off supporting kavanaugh fr

miss ford did pos a polygraph administered by a retired fbi agent. that is important.llor some years ago. it doesn't seem like it was made up recently for surprises of this hearing. i think we have to stay tuned. >> we're out of time. thanks for the perspective as always. great to have you with me. >> thanks. >> and that does it for me for this hour. be sure to join casey hunt at 7:00 p.m. for "kasie dc" but first, it's "meet the press." my digestive system used to make me feel sluggish but now, i take metamucil every day. it traps and removes the waste that weighs me down, so i feel lighter. try metamucil, and begin to feel what lighter feels like. at ally, we created a savings account with a great rate. but if that's not enough, our app helps monitor your spending too. and if that's not enough to help you save, we could start a carpool. look at this traffic. don't worry. ok, if that's not enough we'll start a trainpool. oh i have a meeting in five minutes. and if that's still not enough... i got it. we'll just create a shortcut. we'll do anything, seriously anything

you've talked about a lot today, i think there was sort of a missed opportunity for the republican male senators who chose not to question blasey fordhemselves but passed on their five minutes to this female counsel. they were missing out on an opportunity to say anything about this movement, about this moment in our country, say something to sexual assault survivors, say something about the me too moment. because some of the most actually powerful moments in my opinion during this hearing is whether democratic male senators said what they wanted to say to blasey ford, telling her that they believed her or at least telling her that they know when women and when victims speak out in the way that she is and she did today, that that is really important. also just thinking about this in a more broader way i think beyond just the politics is really important. >> that's an excellent point, m.j., a very good point indeed. i want to go to manu raju. what are you hearing? >> reporter: one of the big questions is whether they will move forward with the friday vote in the senate jacket. i tried to ask chuck grassley whether or not there would

it was a difficult day in the culmination of two extremely painful weeks for everyone involved miss ford has been the object of intense media scrutiny and relentless pressure from every direction and mr carbonneau has seen his name dragged through the mud and just been completely vilified across the country neither one of them deserved that and all of it could have been avoided had the senate followed the process of keeping that information confidential and conducting a confidential inquiry to learn the facts in fact the woman that was examining ms ford who has experience and prosecuting and dealing with victims of sexual assault said that it should have been a private one on one consultation that allowed ms ford to talk uninterrupted and then experience question or to help or fill in the blanks but instead we had this outrageous public spectacle that it was a disservice to absolutely everyone involved it was a disservice to all the senators and to miss ford and certainly to judge kavanaugh . so i want all the news balun the palestinian president has used his speech to the un general ass

we are in the twilight zone and here is what i would say, miss ford, all i can say about miss ford i feel sorry for her and i do believe something happened to her and i don't know when and where, but i don't believe it was brett kavanaugh. as a prosecutor, you couldn't get out of the batters box because in america, before you can accuse somebody of a crime, you have to tell them when it happened and where it happened and you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt it did happen. the reason this case will never be brought in maryland or anywhere else, you just can't get there. if you wanted to get a warrant, which is a probable cause standard to search or arrest somebody, you have to prove by probable cause where it happened and when it happened. how are you supposed to defend yourself is the burden really on you to prove that you were not at a party 35 years ago and they won't tell you where and when it was? all i can say is that under any reasonable standard, any concept of the rule of law, this would not go forward. there have been five allegations here. the fifth allegation was br

that was a disservice to miss ford. think senator grassley is right and the senate colleagues are right saying we have done this process, keep the process moving. if it's a reasonable time frame of saying we want to come in wednesday instead of monday or friday instead of monday, i think they are going listen to that. >> okay. >> there's also a deal where the senators, why not subpoena miss ford. you brought the allegation. bring you forward too the committee and get down. we are going to probably confirm somebody, just kavanaugh to the highest court in the land. we deserve to have all things out in the public before the confirmation vote. >> why subpoena her if she's willing to speak publicly? she is asking for conditions, like, waiting for a delay for the hearing. it seems like a subpoena is a weapon that doesn't need to be utilizeed at the moment. >> it doesn't need to be at the moment, you are right. if she's willing to come forward on her own regard, in a reasonable time frame. if it's not monday, at least let the

miss ford would like to -- professor ford would like a statement with no time limit.look, give her her say. i think republicans have bent over backwards to make sure she can tell her story. don't set any arbitrary rules. we don't want her to filibuster this. the process needs to move forward, but give her as much time she wants as long as reasonable. let her tell her story. we're going to confirm him, he is going to be on the spreemupr court. we need to get going on this. >> you're going to confirm him no matter what she says? >> look, no. >> clarify that. >> more than likely he is going to be on the supreme court. nothing that's been alleged to this point, i don't know why you would hold anything back. we have a lot of growing up to do when we are 17. we don't even know this is true. >> nothing she alleged disqualified him from the supreme court. darren? >> i agree she definitely has to be heard. look at a time we know this is a lifetime appointment, it is a supreme court of the united states of america, the highest court of the land. so anyone that has decided to pu

that can be done via the senate or some hired gun prosecutor that wants to cross-examine either miss fordbe by fbi who can investigate the matter with the threat of perjury. our client's willing to do that. i'd be very interested to see which witnesses judge kavanaugh has remaining who are willing to talk, if they'd be willing to do the same thing. if we can get a meaningful investigation by the fbi, there are all sorts of ways that our client would be willing to provide information to the senate. >> so if there is no fbi investigation and it was just a matter of submitting testimony and evidence to the senate judiciary committee, to committee investigators, that's not something you recommend that your client do? >> i wouldn'trecommend she do that, no. if it's just a matter of her disclosing information to them, that would be one thing. but if they're intending to have grilling from the senators or grilling from some other individual, that kind of cross-examination cannot be a replacement for a meaningful investigation. >> as you know, senator grassley has again raised the idea that talk

it was a difficult day and the culmination of two extremely painful weeks for everyone involved miss ford has been the object of intense media scrutiny and relentless pressure from every direction and mr cavanaugh has seen his name dragged through the mud and just been completely vilified across the country neither one of them deserve that and all of it could have been avoided had the senate followed the process of keeping that information confidential and conducting a confidential inquiry to learn the facts in fact the woman that was examining ms ford who has experience and prosecuting and dealing with victims of sexual assault said that it should have been a private one on one consultation that allowed ms ford to talk uninterrupted and then experience question or to help or fill in the blanks but instead we had this outrageous public spectacle that was a disservice to absolutely everyone involved it was a disservice to all the senators and to miss ford and certainly to judge kavanagh yeah as you say it's an interesting point you make because millions of people around the world were watc

ford to miss katz. it's illegal. inappropriate in the senate. the fbi will do a supplemental background investigation. i'll call for an investigation of what happened in this committee, who betrayed dr. ford's trust? who in feinstein's office recommended miss katz as a lawyer? why dr. ford didn't know we were willing to come to california? we'll do a wholesale investigation of what i think was a despicable process. >> do you accept dianne feinstein's denial when she says -- >> yes, i do. to her. only to her. somebody in her office. let's put it this way, if this was a democratic nominee and an accuser came to lindsey graham's office and somebody in my office recommended a conservative activist lawyer -- if you think they need a lawyer, why don't you tell the committee about it? that i did what was done here, hide the ball, disclose it after the fact, i would be destroyed. >> ryan grimm, who first wrote about the letter, said it did not come from dianne feinstein's office. >> i don't know. all i can tell you is that it came from somebody with a po

miss ford says, i can't remember which party it was. well, what's going on here?as it? and how does he know he wasn't at a party she's not even sure which one it was? this is why you need to have an investigation. this is why the democrats are trying to get the fbi involved and have them explore these circumstances, whereas the republicans are saying no, no, no, the congressional committee staff can handle the whole thing. >> it seems hard, though, to imagine, even that the fbi can figure out where there was a high school party 30 years ago. >> you know, it can be done. >> i guess you never know. >> and maybe it will fail. but the one thing is for sure, is that if you don't try, you won't succeed. >> but ariane, that's only going to happen if democrats agree to -- the republicans agree to it. >> right. senator feinstein said tonight, i don't know about this hearing, i wasn't told about it beforehand. because she wants something else. she wants the fbi to come in and investigate. but keep in mind, the fbi and even the department of justice said tonight, look, they

this committee and to delay there vote in this committee for a week so that judge or that -- that miss ford, dr. ford could be heard. and she was yesterday. so that's with that agreement, i will vote to the advance the bill to the floor. >> clerk will call roll. >> could we have a description. >> what are we voting on? >> we are voting on the motion to report the nomination to the floor. the clerk will call the roll >> wait, that's not my understanding of what mr. chairman, let the senator explain it. >>> that is my -- my understanding and if the democrats could speak to it if chris or you as we talked about before that the democrats would accept and endorse a one-week fbi investigation limited in time and scope. >> that is correct. >> since you're the deciding -- since you're the deciding vote here, we'll vote and then if there's any sort of discussion we'll do that after the vote. >> call the roll. >> mr. -- >> aye. >> mr. graham, aye. >> mr. cornyn. >> aye. >> mr. lee. >> aye. >> mr. cruz. >> aye. mr. sass. >> aye. >> mr. flake. >> aye. >> mr. crapo. >> aye. >> mr. kennedy. >> aye. >> mr

as to miss ford, i look forward to hearing from her tomorrow. as for mr.s client can come before the committee in a bipartisan fashion and we can read but what you said and make our own decision before we vote. i am telling you -- >> hang on. doesn't don't we want to keep listening to him? he's still talking. we'll come back. back with kaitlin and julie. you heard similar themes, we heard judge kavanaugh, feels like he's in the twilight zone. you heard the same thing from senator graham and also the same things of julie swetnick in her sworn affidavit is saying she went to ten plus of these parties where she saw and nobody i've seen is calling judge kavanaugh a serial rapist. she's just alleging he was at the parties and was present as people were essentially standing in line and raping women. she's not alleging he was doing that. let's be on the same page. he's saying you don't go to ten parties and call the cops. >> lindsey graham sounds downright angry there. he put out a pretty blistering statement saying if republicans bail on this good man, i'm quoti

accusers, that these accusers don't remember the details like miss leeds said, much of what happened to them. you just heard from christine blasey ford's obviously miss ramirez talked about alcohol being involved and some gaps in her memory. the blasey ford thing does seem pretty detailed, no? >> well, yeah, it was four people, then it was two people. and, you know, i understand that something probably happened to dr. ford. i just don't think brett kavanaugh was involved. i was interested to see jeffrey's interview yesterday about michael avenatti and his new client, julie swetnick who apparently as a sophomore in college was hanging out with sophomore high school boys who were drugging young girls and standing in line outside of bedrooms at ten different parties and for some reason miss swetnick can't really remember whether she was gang raped at the first one or the tenth one. and my question to her is, why the heck would you go back to parties where young girls were in a bedroom getting gang raped by teenagers when you're an adult? >> yeah, and why do these women wear these short skirts? aren't they just asking for it? come on, mich

ford. >> miss mitchell for senator sasse. >> dr. rd, we were talking about you meeting in july with congresswoman eshoo. >> yes. >> did you talk about your allegations with any republican member of congress or congressional staff? >> i did not. where i lived the congressman is a democrat. >> okay. was it communicated to you by your counsel or someone else that the committee had asked to interview you, and they offered to come out to california to do so? >> we're going to be object, mr. chairman to any call for privileged conversations between counsel and dr. ford. >> could you validate the fact the offer was made without saying a word? are we going to take turns? >> is it possible to answer the question without violating any counsel relationships? >> can i say something to you? do you mind if i say something to you directly? >> yeah. >> i just appreciate that you did offer that. i wasn't clear on what the offer was. if you were going to come out to see me i would have happily hosted you and been happy to speak with you out there. i j

i think something happened to miss ford, she cannot tell us when and where, he says he doesn't know miss ford and all the people named by ms. ford have invented this unknown location to say it didn't happen. what am i supposed to believe? you couldn't get a warrant in the, no sitting, probable cause requires you to determine the location and time to have some corroboration so there are five allegations, varying degrees of reliability and here's the only thing i know that is consistent. when it comes to brett kavanaugh there are no boundaries, the liberals are trying to destroy this guy into my conservative friends where have a lot of you been? do you not see what is happening here? do you really think brett kavanaugh was a gang rapist in high school and nobody knows about it until 2018? shannon: the fbi did not do a good job if they missed all of this. why are real donald trump, chuck grassley, the majority leader and brett kavanaugh freight get the fbi involved? because they want to hide the truth from the american people and they know that kavanaugh is guilty, why not persuade white ho

how aggressively would the white house go after miss ford's credibility here? this morning from kellyanne and others, we're seeing a marked change in strategy. >> absolutely, poppy and jim. we're hearing more from the white house about how they want to approach this. the message is pretty clear. we want to hear from this accuser. there is no desire in the white house right now to publicly slam this accuser, given the political climate, both the me too movement and the political realities on capitol hill where you have potentially two gop senate women who are pivotal votes in this process. at the same time, our sources are telling us that president trump is annoyed by the perception that his nominee is being drug through the mud by democrats for what he considers to be old allegations. this is nothing new for president trump. in the past we've seen him side with people around him who have been accused by things in their past. he questions whether it's valid to ruin someone's reputation because of what happened a long time ago and to officials he's voicing those

miss ford...ble cause when it happened and where it happened. it happened and where it happened. how are you supposed to defend yourself? yourself? years ago and you cannot say where or when it was? years ago and you cannot say where orwhen it was? years ago and you cannot say where or when it was? —— is the burden on you. you. —— in any concept of the law, this would not go forward. would not go forward. there have been five allegations here. been five allegations here. by senator whitehouse who did absolutely the right thing. absolutely the right thing. said, her friend of his was on a boat. boat. he went down and beat them up and she will not come forward. and she will not come forward. said, i will make sure, let the fbi look at it. look at it. and it turned out not to be true. be true. without a date or return address, sent to cory gardner a few days ago. sent to cory gardner a few days ago. to nbc news and it made it on the news, the fourth allegation. news, the fourth allegation. that reall

chairman grassley has given miss ford until tomorrow morning to tell the committee if she will be at the hearing. we have live coverage for the a.m.ng on monday at 10:00 eastern. you will be able to watch live online or listen live using the c-span radio app. --ouncer: announcer: announcer: this weekend on book tv, bob's interview on his new book. >> somebody in a key position whor the book came out is in office called me and said everyone knows what you have in correct. is 1000% announcer: at 9 p.m. eastern, ken starr discusses his book " contempt: a memoir of the clinton investigation." >> what i'm saying about the clinton experience is that we learn from our history as a free people. engagement was not the wise way to go. announcer: and on sunday at 9 p.m. eastern on afterwards, the former secretary of state, john kerry, discusses his book "every day is extra." he is interviewed by jane harman. >> john and i were flying to kuwait on an airplane. we did not know each other well but we were seated opposite bison yorkie. it brought us together and we had a conversation into the night

when it comes to miss ford wears the fbi going to go?s just there is no magic here. you have to use your common sense to go back to the way the system works, everybody is presumed innocent and an accusation has to be corroborated. you will figure this out. pete: democrats say this is a set up, 5 minutes is not enough to make any progress with the witness or brett kavanaugh. you guys hired a prosecutor to your question. what is your response? >> if you don't like the setup, go hire somebody who can do it with continuity. when i hear democrats complain about the process it is like an arsonist complaining about the fire down the street. you are the ones who knew about the accusation, you are the ones who leaked her name to somebody. you are the ones who have been assuming guilty, you're the ones that created this chaos when it comes to trump, you're the ones that want to destroy everything trump is trying to do. i can look them all the in the eye and say i didn't do this to sonja soto mayor angelina kagan, i would not do this to anybody reg

if both sides are credible, that is if miss ford and mr. kavanaugh -- judge kavanaugh are both credible, who wins? if you take the position that it is strictly a jump wall, then who wins is probably judge kavanaugh because he has two more votes. he has 51 votes. but you never know how the country will tilt in one way or another, how they will read the facial expressions, the comments, the facts if you will even if the facts may be dwrektsly in ddwrekts directly in dispute. so i think that television hearing will in fact decide the fate of judge kavanaugh and therefore of the supreme court at least for a while. >> it is not a court case, it doesn't have the same standards of a civil or criminal court case. so it is unclear as to what these senators are going to use to make their decision. i think you're right, you how the world tilts may be more of it. >> i think so. sure in court you do have the presumption of innocence. this is in the court of public opinion and media and television. and that ball game is completely different. it all depen

chairman grassley has given miss ford until friday morning to tell the committee if she will appear. we are planning live coverage monday on c-span starting at 10:00. also available online at c-span.org and you can listen with the free c-span radio app. saturday, to retiring members of congress, bob corker of tennessee and niki tsongas of massachusetts talk about their experience in congress. >> so important for us as a nation to continue to be a beacon to the world and conduct our self in a manner that represents the best. when we stooped uncivil discourse, we stooped to pettiness, we have to remember that the entire world looks to us. i am deeply concerned by our president on many levels. he has not been helpful to long-term relationships across the globe. you read about that on a daily basis. long-term allies who question the support of the united states. he suggests we in the united states can go it alone. i do not think that is the case by any means. we have extraordinary power but we need partners around the globe in order to achieve the goals we seek. our conversations with se

feinstein who had been sitting on the letter since july said in a statement, quote, i support misses ford's decision to share her story and now that she has it is in the hands of the fbi to conduct an investigation. this should happen before the senate moves forward on this nominee. feinstein also tweeting, quote, i agree with senator flake that we should delay this week's vote on brett kavanaugh's nomination. there's a lot of information we don't know and the fbi should have the time it needs to review this new material. staff calls are not the appropriate ways to handle this . for his part kavanaugh denies the allegations. in a statement through the white house saying, quote, i categorically and unequivocally deny this allegation. i did not do this back in high school or at any time. brett kavanaugh confirmation should be delayed . the i believe her. why would anyone make up that story now or anytime? >> rob malcolm, ktvu fox2 news >>> many democrats and at least three republican senators say the vote should be delayed. arizona senator jeff flake, alaska's lisa murkowski and bob corker of

i think he is a very vital piece of corroboration for miss ford's testimony. >> how would they prove this alleged assault happened and how much does the burden of proof come into play and it's a congressional hearing and not a criminal trial? >> that's a great question. there's no burden of proof. what this is, whether or not the congressional committee wants to recommend and advise that brett kavanaugh actually gets the supreme court nomination. it's whether or not they believe it. it's a he said,/she said, whether or not her story has been consistent. and her motivation in testify. a lot of people brought into question what her motivation is at this point. if you look at it, it's normal for a victim of sexual assault to not come forward for many years. that's not going to undermine her credibility. what it's going to come down to is who they believe. whether or not they believe what she says in front of them. they have to look at her as she testifies and decide whether or not they believe this to be true. oftentimes in sexual assault cases you've got two witnesses. the person who s

republicans are countered they were happy to send committee members, staffers, researchers to wherever miss fordrd and talk to her, to avoid the glare of tv lights. but again, as far as we know the hearing is still set for monday. and you're still going to have the judge getting questioned on charges from a woman who might not be there in person. connell mcshane on the white house. how all of that is going down. connell? reporter: the president made comment that you referenced before he left here for the trip he is on right now to north carolina, speaking to reporters on the south lawn at the white house. for a while he tried to play both sides, said sexual assault allegations against judge kavanaugh is unfair but he wants to hear from dr. christine blase ford. then offered up what appeared to defense of his supreme court nominee appeared to cast some doubt on allegations leveled by dr. blasey ford when she and judge kavanaugh were both high school students. listen. >> if she shows up, makes a credible showing, that will be very interesting and have to make a decision but i can only say this, he

the question i have about miss ford. walking she remembers up the stairs.he says she remembers walking into the bedroom, the bed being on the right. she says she remembers pushing him off, walking down the stairs and hearing them laughing. how is it that she remembers all of that but not how she got home? i think they all were drinking. but i don't think you should try to rationalize the character of a 17-year-old who has been drinking. you should pretty much try to look at his life of the last 15 to 20 years. the teenagers make mistakes all the time, and he didn't rape her. he didn't penetrate her. i just think that you can't really characterize somebody as a 16 what they did or 17-year-old person who's been drinking. host: cleveland ohio, republican. mark? wrong -- have the cleveland ohio, republican? >> i am, speaking now. host: apologies, go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. a couple of quick things. i wanted to comment on a comment that you made, greta, pertaining to when the republicans took back their five minutes from the special counsel.

forde needs to be heard --miss ford needs to be heard, and not insulted.: i believe that was correct and appropriate. very confusingly to republicans in congress, this sort of messaging has not been discussed beforehand. before in congress there had been attempt to make this conversation private. to have these call with her and discussions of brett kavanaugh behind closed doors and get it out of the way before the plan to vote on thursday. but kellyanne conway coming out and saying she needs to be heard means that yes, she will be. host: james, a republican from texas. good morning. caller: can you ask the lady you i do take a program and ask her 60 years from now about her comments. host: what is your question? talking about brett kavanaugh not remembering, what to ask the lady that she can't ofember a lot of the details what she has accused brett kavanaugh of. guest: i think that memory is an interesting thing, it's something we're still learning about. but it's pretty clear that some events stick harder in the minds than others. i think dramatic events

. >> miss ford says she will testify. kavanaugh has already agreed to testify. there are no other witnesses sul mono-ed. what's your reaction to the rocess unfolding? >> it's been a rocky road. it's been a rock ri i think that the over all that the committee has been more inclined in the following way. that is a rush to judgment. just rush it all, bring it to the floor and ehte it. get itd them. this is one of the mostco sequential decisions that the united states senate kes. one of the most consequential decisions for the american people. and ihink the country and the american people are being left out of this. it's an appointment to a lifetime position. on the highest court of the land. so, i think that there should be a full hearing. e fbi should investigate because these are new allegations. the administration is said that judge kavanaugh has been vetted several times. and he has. and that's appropriate. but dr. ford's story w not part of the vetting. i also believe that mark ju should be subpoenaed. he was the third alleged party to be in the room. and fori

time his little girls are even praying for ms ford and you know everybody understands i think that miss ford something did happen to her somewhere but it wasn't at the hands of brett kavanaugh and none of her story jobs with even with common sense senate powell thank you very much for your time. when we come back video replay technology gets the green light from european football. on north korea must be vigorously enforced told the u.n. security council he reports that some member states on demanding the sanctions by employing north korean workers the path to peace and a brighter future is only through diplomacy and only denuclearization. that means any other path north korea may choose will inevitably lead to ever increasing isolation and pressure it is imperative for members of the united nations to take that to heart enforcement of u.n. security council sanctions must continue vigorously and without fail until we realize the fully final verified denuclearization not told people including three officials are facing trial of a portugal's worst ever wildfires the place to place in essentiall

miss ford, all i expand say about miss ford, i feel sorry for her and i do believe something happened don't know when and where but i don't believe it was brett kavanaugh and as a prosecutor, you couldn't get out of the batter's box because in america before you can accuse somebody of a crime, you have to tell them when it happened, and where it happened and you have to beyond a reasonable doubt it did happen. the reason this case will never be brought in maryland or anywhere else, you just can't get there. if you wanted to get a warrant, which is a probable cause standard to search or arrest somebody you have got to prove by probable cause where it happened and when it happened. how are you supposed to defend yourself is the burden really on you to prove that you were not at a party 35 years ago and they won't tell you where it was and when it was? so all i can say, is that under any reasonable standard, any concept of the rule of law, this would not go forward. there have been five allegations here. the fifth allegation was brought to me by senator whitehouse who did absolutely the

and you see this here chuck grassley is doing a phenomenal and that is saying look we've afforded miss ford every opportunity to come forward we've offered her private shielded testimony never mind that kavanagh's been tracked through the mud we're going to give her private testimony but i think they're going to hold to this ten am friday deadline that she has to come forward and say whether she will plan to testify and whether she'll plan to present any evidence of this i think they're going to stick to that but but i think the big big lesson here is that the republican party has finally learned their lesson and going back to those examples i shared the we've seen this type of political hit job before therefore we know it's a political hit job as a strategist in california for many years and the shorts negroponte you might remember in the two thousand and three recall elections this exact thing have yet to arnold schwartz and yet so is an october surprise situation gloria already brought out i think it was eighteen women who claimed that governor schwarzenegger had groped them showed virtu

republican senator lindsey graham said in a statement, if miss ford wishes to provide information to the committee, i would gladly listen to what she has to say. me senate republicans believe so this is all a ploy by democrats to delay the vote. kavanaugh has denied the allegation saying, i did not do this back in high school or at any time. a spokesman for the committee's chairman, chuck grassley says the vote would proceed as scheduled, but some republicans like senator jeff flake say, they are open to delaying the vote so they can hear directly from ford. kendis, janai, back over to you. >> most of the senators are back on the hill today. stephanie ramos, thank you. >>> we turn now though to the remnants of hurricane florence swamping the carolinas this morning with punishing rain and treacherous flooding. >> and dams near their breaking point triggering new evacuation orders in north carolina overnight. many swollen rivers are about to crest, and hundreds of people have been rescued from the floodwaters. >> abc's emily rau is in wilmington where washed out roads have cut off this

ford's long-time friend prpd miss keyser. >> all four wits alleged to be at the event said it didn't dr. ford's long time friend miss keyser who said she didn't know me and she does not recall ever being at a party with me with or without dr. ford. it's been investigated. all four witnesses said it didn't happen under penalty of penalty. >> that's false. keyser said she doesn't remember the gathering. she was never told about the attack and she was downstairs while it allegedly took place. she also said she believes mr. ford, mark judge, miss ford, mark judge said he doesn't remember and patrick smith said he has no knowledge of the party. none of them refute that it happened. >> right. i think that's right. this is a good example of a statement that maybe is certainly doesn't meet a perjury standard and maybe is not even technically false depending how he phrases it. but it is mid-leading. he is attemptinging to cast these individuals at corroborating his story and instead what they're saying is i don't have a memory of that event. there's a reason why dr. ford would remember that e

but i basically think that, well, i felt that both judge kavanaugh and miss ford wherever both credible to some degree. our hole judicial system is based on whether or not you have evidence. and mrs. ford brought forth witnesses and they all attested that it either wasn't true or they had no knowledge of it. and i think go ahead with the fbi investigation because unless another fly by night accuser comes like this ramirez who already dropped out because her accusations were so flimsy it begs stupidity to even pursue them. you also have avenatti's accuser who her witnesses are also saying that it didn't happen. now, i was sexually abused when i was a child and i was date raped as a young woman. i'm going to tell you, you do remember things. yes, you do. the difference between an individual being sexually abused and these young children who are abused by priests is that many children from the same pair rirns have come forth and said these of this priest did this to me. with mrs. ford she has no corroborating evidence. the fbi, i hope they go ahead with the investigation but what are they