when she came and said, i'm coming back home to mississippi to start and work on the mississippi book festival, so thank you, hollie. [applause] >> and what they did, though, was they asked then governor to have it at the state capitol and hollie sent you, governor, for opening up the state capitol to have authors and readers all over this building. in fact, there's going to be and i'm doing commercial in room 204, marathon, all day authors will be reading, next great mississippi novel. you can pick your genre, mystery,si-fi. oprah, mix it with the subjects, humidity, i think today, cat fish, the subject cat fish, cotton, magnolias, tamales, civil war and natural disaster. [laughter] >> love conquers all, someone goes to jail and the reader is left hanging. if you haven't had enough and mississippi is truly lover, you can meet with the mississippi library commission throughout the state. i had a chance to meet with the state librarians yesterday and they had something special, a book match so if you need recommendations, you want to find out and read more about it, please be part of t

author yet, mississippi slavery in mississippi, waiting on that one, mississippi, the function of the mississippi state government during -- there is no biography in mississippi war governor charles park. women in civil war mississippi, tons of topics waiting for authors out there to help us understand more civil war mississippi. >> you have your work cut out for you. >> i will help anybody that does. >> how about you? >> first chapter of my book, mississippi's american indians, was devoted to archaeology but really that deserves the whole book by itself. we have 20,000 years of prehistory in mississippi with cultures, different cultures, and the mississippi mound trail on highway 61, focusing on this area and bring it to the public more and that needs to be emphasized. >> any questions? if you would, please go to the microphone in the middle. he asks why is it necessary to have two separate museums and that is a great question. they started from different points. the state history museum was always part of the museum of history, we closed it. after hurricane katrina tore the roof off

. >> welcome to jackson, mississippi. , the third annual jackson mississippi film festival. we will be bringing author events from the state capital which will include a discussion with my brand of conference, carla hayden. panels a mississippi history in u.s. presidents. best-selling authors on the vietnam war and more. for complete schedule of events, go to booktv.org. you can follow some social media have book tv is our twitter handle. our facebook pages book tv. our institut instagram it's book -underscore tv. now, from the state capital in jackson is live coverage of the mississippi book festival onli book tv and c-span2. [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] >> morning. good morning everyone.missis >> were gathered to kick off the third annual mississippi book festival. [applause] this book festival highlights two of the best things mississippi does. our authors, and our readers. m associate we will unveil the new literary map. we have lots of authors to celebrate. more than 2

he was of course important to mississippi because he was of course instrumental in leading mississippi out of the union. becoming the second state to do so following south carolina. and joining the rest of the other southern states. of course jefferson davis, mississippi's own became the president of the confederacy. the governors office had a interesting role. the building was captured several time during the war. first time was in may of 1863. when union army and soldiers first came into the buildings one of the first to come in with fred grant. the son of union general. and according to to legend and story fred grants own autobiography. when he came in there a still lit pipe from governor john jay that he took for his own use. another governor is aims. he was a governor during reconstruction. he was a union general who came down and lived in mississippi and eventually became governor. he had to deal with the violence of reconstruction. a very difficult time in mississippi. mississippi is trying to go through the years of trying to deal with the former freedman and dealing with white

he had to deal with the violence of reconstruction, a difficult time in mississippi as mississippi is trying to go through those years of trying to deal with the former freedman and dealing with whites not happy about the situation and where mississippi was going. ames was evenly forced out of office and moved out. another governor is the last governor to serve inabling. he was the first governor to serve in the current state capitol. we call the new capitol even though built in 1903 so it's 111 years old. but it is the new capitol. lonenou had to relocate government to a new structure. we are now standing in the most historic room in the state of mississippi. this is the house of represent he was chamber which was a witness to many of the most important events in our state's history. for instance, on jan 9th of 1861 delegates voted 84-15 to pull mississippi out of the union. the reasonsy clear they didn't leave much doubt in the documentation and journals passed and the statements made. they were doing it to defend the institution of the slavery. there was a tremendous concern on wha

a mississippi native, he is a 1975 graduate of the university of mississippi with a b.a. degree in journalism. he began his professional journalism clear at the clarion -- career at the clarion ledger right here in jackson. he also has worked at the pittsburgh press and the detroit free press. sanford is a nationally-recognized lecturer on first amendment issues. he is past board chair of the mid-america press institute. in 2014 he was inducted into the tennessee journalism hall of fame. mr. otis sanford. thank you. [applause] and last but not least, griff stockley is a native of mississippi where his father owned a cotton plantation. the family moved to lee county when he was 2. he graduated from southwestern at memphis in 1965. he served as a peace corps volunteer on the northern coast of colombia for two years. in 1967 he was drafted and spent two years in the military. in 1972 he graduated from the university of arkansas law school in fayetteville and was employed as a legal services foreign for 32 -- attorney for 32 years. subsequently, he was a staff attorney for th

a very difficult time in mississippi as mississippi is trying to go through those years of trying todeal with the former freedmen and dealing with a lot of whites who were not very happy about the situation and where mississippi was going. ames was eventually forced to get out of office and move out. another governor i like to talk about is a.h.longino, the last governor to serve in this building. the first governor to serve in the current state capitol. we call it the new capitol even though it was built in 1903. so it's 111 years old, but it is the new capitol to us. he had to deal with the difficult issues of trying to maneuver himself out of this building and relocate government back over to a new structure. we are now standing in the most historic room in the state of mississippi. this is the house of representatives chamber which was a witness to many of the most important events in our state's history. for instance, on january 9 of 1861, delegates voted 84-15 to pull mississippi out of the union. and the reasons were very clear. they didn't leave much doubt in regards to their

a panola county mississippi native, sanford is a 1975 graduate of the university of mississippi witha ba in journalism, began his career at right here in jackson, the first african-american male reporter at the paper and has worked at the pittsburgh press and the detroit free press. sanford is a lecturer on newsroom management journalist and first amendment issues, past president of the associated press media editors and past board chair of the mid-america press institute. in 2014 he was inducted into the tennessee journalism hall of fame. >>. >> last but not least, bricks stockley is a native of mississippi where his father owned a cotton plantation. the family moved to marion arkansas. he graduated from southwestern at memphis, now road scholar in 1965. he served as a peace corps volunteer for two years during rural development and in 1967 he was drafted and spent two years in the military. in 1972 he graduated from university of arkansas law school and was employed as a legal services attorney for 32 years representing indigence in civil cases. subsequently he was a staff attorney

session on mississippi history. few things i would like to point out. if you could please silence your cell phones, please feel free to take any pictures and if you would like, we would love to have you send them to hashtag literary lawn party or hashtag ms book festival. i would like to introduce you to the sponsor of our session today. our sponsor today is humanities council, mister stewart rockoff is the director. [applause] >> thank you very much. i'm here to do two things. one is to say the session is sponsored with the national endowment for the humanities as part of their race initiative. and then pamela junior, was previously the director of the smith robertson museum down the street and several months ago, the director of the mississippi civil rights museum. which will be open to the public and to the people of mississippi, december 9th, who better? pamela. >> thank you so much. i am a big fan of these folks. what i decided to do is ask individual questions than a general question. very good. i will introdu

matt is a nate irof mississippi. he is everything you hope to find when you walk to the desk at the park and you want to talk to the great southern gentleman with the great accent. he is going to tell you about southern charm. ironically, this is a man i -- i heard has been told that he's not southern enough. is that right? >> yeah, it is. >> wait until he opens his mouth. >> i just wish you would stop with the gentleman part. i was enjoying that. that's few and far between. >> one of the things -- what's that? >> gentleman. >> gentleman, the next gentleman who's about to speak to you today comes from mississippi. he's going to talk a little bit about the siege of mississippi and the confederate defense there. if anybody has had the opportunity to be on a battlefield with matt atkinson, it is kind of like having this immersive story-telling experience out on the field that somehow is also like this running stand-up comedy routine, which you don't necessarily expect on a battlefield, and yet he continues to woo and ch

[inaudible conversations] mississippi book festival, i'm chris mississippi archives and history, i have been asked to remind everyone that you're more than welcome to take photographs to social media. this is the conversation of library in congress panel and sponsored by the mississippi humanities council and the southern mississippi friends of the library. mississippi is fortunate to have so strong a supporter of literature, music and arts as congressman greg harper, now in fifth term, harper shares the committee on house administration and serves house committee of energy and commerce and joint committee on printing an more pertantly chair committee. here is [applause] gregg happen -- harper,. >> what a great day. all the work that's been done, you can't say enough to all of the people that have participated, but it's my honor to have in mississippi dr. carla hayden 14th librarian of congress. still new on the job. we had an incredible day yesterday with her here at the state library commission and also we -- we had just an amazing day, didn't we. i want you to know that when you talk

where can to the third mississippi book festival, i'm chris mississippi archives and history, i have been asked to remind everyone that you're more than welcome to take photographs to social media. this is the conversation of library in congress panel and sponsored by the mississippi humanities council and the southern mississippi friends of

mississippi book festival. [inaudible] [inaudible] mississippi book festival. [inaudible] we will be back in a few minutes with more. mississippi book festival. [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] mississippi book festival. here is a look at some of the current nonselling -- top-selling nonfiction books. topping the list was that exploration of the universe. with the memoir giant of the senate. in third they recall of the childhood and a rust belt in ohio. and then mark manson's advice and leading a happier life. our look at the best selling nonfiction books according to indy bown continues with bloomberg businessweek on the relationship between president trump in the steve bannon. next is the 2014 graduation speech at the university of texas. in killers of the moon. wrapping up our look at best selling nonfiction books according to indy bown is the hidden life of trees and parent -- sarah night sky. you can watch them on her website a website book tv.org. they recently visited capitol hill to ask m

. >> #mississippi book festival. i would like to let you noticed a sponsor is the of law firm and a light to introduce a partner at the firm. >> if you're not from mississippi welcome to the treasure of our state capital. along with other partners we are thrilled to have a part of what is one of the greatest gifts that you could possibly offer. [applause] with my evil alter ego as jerry negative with the very able to help with the of book fest and the mississippi museum that simply would not happen. [applause] in whatever love to have the privilege of introducing the entire panel. at a time perhaps as many in the last 50 years in those speeds to be counseled but it is wonderful we had that at our disposal the lead to a u.n. experts agree it come fisherman, a turban turban, stanton, a kennedy is out of the great thinkers and leaders of american history for those that were studied auntie expert panel you will see the first annotated version of president grant's personal memoirs. it is in print but not yet available. ge

in mississippi. pemberton is transferred from south carolina to mississippi. he gets there in october of 1862 and he's a major general. there's a problem. name ofa guy by the world and/or an door and already in mississippi, and he has the senior rank to pemberton. how do you fix that? you promote pemberton again. and so pension becomes a lieutenant general, arguably in charge of the most important department in the entire confederacy and john c pemberton, it was a general, has never fought a battle as a commander. that's how that works. no event in the resume of pemberton's military career born to the rapid rise and promotion. pemberton's strengths lay as an administrator, and he wasn't a confident man is a department commander but he never committed an army in the field of battle. to compound his woes, pemberton had a domineering personality, and he tended to irritate his subordinates. the rank-and-file mistrusted him from the beginning because of his northern birth. these ingredients and everything put together would spell disaster for the confederacy. corps

mississippi has typically been resistant to letting in unions.ers here are hopeful they have a chance. i want a plan. i wa nt they have a chance. i want a plan. i want health and safety. equal opportunity. i got hurt and i have been dealing without the whole time. so, it has been a rough process. i think the union would stand up for us. think the union would stand up for us. not everyone wants the union. the best thing that has happened for this state. we are campaigning hard to keep the uaw out of our plant. we don't need anyone to tell us how to don't need anyone to tell us how to do things. nissan has posted antiunion images inside the company, putting them in trouble with the board. they say voters have the right to know the company's prospective. for those that remember first—hand the south's troubled past, it is notjust work rights, it is civil rights. if you went to register to vote, someone might come out of their house wearing a hood. now they don't do that, but they come by and say we are going to close the union, we are going to close

they never interviewed us. >> mississippi senator david jordan was a college student. he was there in the courtroom. >> it was the hottest case in america. >> at the trial of roy bryant and j.b. mile am, till was painted as a proceed tor. she testified he grabbed her and testified her he said he had been with other white woman before of >> nobody was serious. this was a mockery of a trial. >> it was in the court room after just an hour of deliberation that the all-white jury let the men walk free. later, the men admitted to killing till. now six decades later, tim tyson reveals what carolyn told him. she said she lied about till touching her and uttering obscenities. she said that part is not true. and some question of whether she said knowledge of till's death. pastor wheeler described his grandfather running outside when kidnappers took emmett. >> he asked this one, and he said it sounded like a. would's voice. it identified him. i don't know the word used, but it identified till as the one doing the talker. >> a lie that convinced the jurors to set them free. we tal

dunlap lives in a small community in mississippi. i am sure you have heard of shibuya, mississippi. it is in clark county. ms. dunlap may not have had a lot of exposure to education, but ms. dunlap, as president of the clap -- clark county branch, is driven by one rentable. i don't think it is right, i don't think it is fair. the value question of fairness. when s goes ansits in on a school board meeting and she no longer has children in school, she has great grandchildren in school now. when she is sitting there listening to the school board , evenbout school policy if she does not understand all of the conversations, is the question of fairness. how can we turn our back on the ms. dunlap's of the world? those who can identify when school districts in rural america are seeking to diverge public funds for a use that would not benefit all children. ,f they perfect that policy hilary shelton, as he walks down the halls of congress, he will see that policy bubble up as a national policy scheme. that is why we must have the naacp. voting is paramount. voting is paramount. with all the s

she wrote coming of age in mississippi. she was arrested in 1963 and one of the things that happened is all of these people behind her doused her with condiments and this happened a lot. she left us at him and ends up retreating into a beauty shop because she knows the beautician will be sympathetic to her and go help her and kind of prepare this humiliating attack and she does assist she be moved to the head of the wines of the beautician can help wash herautc hair. something like the pursuit of beauty was very much tangled up with other social and political realities of jim crow. the pursuit of beauty was one way to strengthen jim crow. how they used the dependent upon who they were and what they t wanted. tonight a look back at some of the stops on the c-span city for tour that took place over two days in 90-degree heat and there were thousands on the battlefield and if there are files in the forces on the battlefield and all our swelling and rocking so you think about the strange people had to deal with and then you thi

michelle flurry bbc news canton mississippi. and we have one more business night today the dow jones industrial average closed above twenty two thousand points for the first time. the dow has risen by more than two thousand points just this year. now just mention the word test pilot and you know you're talking about a very special breed of people back in the nineteen fifties the hair raising exports would without accident. but their accomplishments led to advancing the space race now nasa has released the films and an expert has been talking us through them. mmhm. coming out of world war two we are in a race if you will to see. who could go to the highest who could build the fastest so there were a very large number of unknowns associated with each of these vehicles and how they were going to? fall. so the risk were significan. each time the pilots went up that they were probably doing something for the first time. i saw a lot of these flights. you just didn't know what the end game was going to b. and we didn't understand all o

michelle florey reports from mississippi. to threaten and intimidate workers. we did the research may uaw and we do not want what they are offering. once again we are in a battle, we have to struggle and fight just to have to struggle and fight just to have the right to vote. the fight to form a union at the nissan factory in canton, mississippi. we are battling against our own, not for the right to vote or not to vote, but for the right to manipulate and lie to each other. for 14 years, workers at the nissan plenty have been engaged in a pitched battle with management over the right to form a union. mississippi, like many southern states, has typically been resista nt to southern states, has typically been resistant to letting in unions. this time, workers here are hopeful they have a chance. i want to have a voice in the plant. health and safety. like i said, equal opportunity. i got hurt on the line andl opportunity. i got hurt on the line and i have been dealing with that throughout the whole time. so it has beena through

the vote in mississippi will run through friday night. if they win, it will begin the process of gauche nating a new contract with any sap mpl e japanese automaker has never dealt with here in the united states. >>> still ahead, troubles. cutting jobs, its dividend, earnings outlook and the stock >>> the senate today passed legislation th no halt in fda reviews of drugs. the measure increases the user fees that drug and medical device makers pay to the agency. but revenue raised would help pay for reviews to help bring the xaep's product to market. th governoring these fees expires at the end of september. >>> generic drug prices are falling and that is take iing a toll on a number of companies. aamerisourcebergen is one of them. it saw profits tumble more than 85% and cut its revenue growth forecast and added that the price could slow further as well. the chain which includes pharmacy benefit managers and drug distributors, has been under pressure due to scrutiny over rising drug prices. shares fell more than 10% in today's trading sessi

state of mississippi is having its book festival. and other states, of course, texas is one of biggest and one of the first, wisconsin i understand also. so we are trying to make sure that we reach out as the library of congress and support that. so we'll have a booth at the mississippi book festival too. >> host: and booktv will be live at the 17th annual national book festival at the washington, d.c. convention center. this is saturday of labor day weekend. we will be live with author events and call-ins. full schedule's available at booktv.org. [inaudible conversations] >> good evening. welcome to the atlanta history center. my name is kate whitman, and i'm

so and moody, wrote coming-of-age in mississippi. she was arrested in a jackson city sitting and 63. one of the things that happened in that setting is all of the white people behind her doused her with condiments. this happened a lot she leaves the city and ends up eventually retreating into a beauty shop. she knows the beautician will be sympathetic to her. and will help her and repair her body in full in the wake of this humiliating attack. so the women who are there insisted that she be moved to the head of the line so the beautician can wash her hair. she washes all of the gunk router. something like beauty, it was very much tangled up it was with the realities of jim crow. the pursuit of beauty was one way to strengthen jim crow. it was one way to attack jim crow. a set of rituals and practices that were available to women living in the south. how they used it depended upon who they were and what they wanted it was there in use. the women did use it in this way. >> you're watching book tv on c-span2 in prime time. television fo

it's the best thing to happen to the state of mississippi, so we are campaigning ha rd to mississippil us what we wa nt need outsiders to tell us what we want doing. to get its message across, nissan posted anti—union m essa 9 es across, nissan posted anti—union messages in the factory, now landing them in trouble with the labour relations board. the company denied allegations of this, saying they had allegations of this, saying they had a right to know their perspective. for those that know the south's troubled past, it's notjust about workers right but civil rights. when blacks would vote, someone would come with a hood bearing a cross. now they come by, saying we are going to close the union and the plan. the union is hoping to turn past failure into success. victory here might like the spark for the us labour movement across the south. hyperloop one — it's the futuristic transport system that shoots pods or capsules at very high speeds through tunnels. take a look at the latest test in the nevada desert. futuristic music this is the beginning and the dawn ofa this is the beginning

grant project, with grant's papers being housed at mississippi state university. he's the author and editor of more than a dozen books and 250 articles -- that is impressive. including his important work "sherman. a soldier's passion for order," a finalist for the lincoln prize. dr. marslech received the richard wright literary award for lifetime achievement by a mississippi author and the mississippi historical society presented him its highest award the blc wales award for national distinction in history. he's currently at work on a book on the development of the mythology surrounding robert e. lee and william sherman. today dr. marslech will be sharing with us some of the more recent work on henry howlick. dr. marslech? [ applause ] >> i thought i was dead. she took my notes. what was i going to do? well, thank you all for being here so early on a saturday morning. this is great. i want to talk to you about -- imagine scheduling a talk on henry howlech at this early in the morning, but we'll give it -- it was quite a while, and i had -- i had a meeting of one o

>> well that's one of the issues that will be talked about back in mississippi. but there is an old case -- long ago when i was in law school you talk about free speech and at some point our free speech ends and the big exam we remember as lawyers, you can not walk into a crowded theater and yell fire. so that crosses over, that is not free speech. the question is in this case, does she have free speech to do something like that? not in california and i would guess in mississippi they will come to the same conclusion. coming up here attorney general jeff sessions says freedom is not unlimited and must balanced against national security. his plans to crack done on media leaks. >>> and frustrations heard at a meeting last night and how people are taking things into their own hands. snmentd happening today two men charged in a wear house fire are expected in court. they both face 37 counts of involunteer manslaughter -- involuntary manslaughter in connection of the fire. they created a fire hazard that led to the deaths of 36 people. they could enter a plea in court

in fact i'm attending the mississippi book festival. and i understand it is the third year that the state of mississippi is having its book festival and other states of course texas is one of the biggest and one of the first. and wisconsin i understand also. we are trying to make understand that it may should reach out as the library of congress and support that. so we will have a booth at the mississippi book festival. >> and we will be live with c-span. this is saturday of labor day weekend, we will be live with author events and call ins. full schedules are available at booktv.org. >> booktv is on twitter and facebook. and we want to hear from you. tweet us, twitter.com/booktv or post a comment on our facebook page facebook.com/booktv. >> can you recount for us the focus of the blackburn affair and the underground railroad? and the role that it played. >> i think earlier we had a sculpture. let me see if i can go back to it. that ed dwight, who was a fantastic sculptor and he did the sculpted down at the waterfront where you have the

well, i was in mississippi three times in the last two months and in march, mississippi, that's what dr. king first in public said to ralph ab ber-- abernathy. and he said now is the time to go to washington d.c. and campaign 2018. i ask the mayors and other leaders in mississippi, i say 50 years ago roughly almost dr. king was here and i want to ask you a question, has anything changed in 50 years? they said, yes, but it's changed for the worst. he said we're still poor. we don't have teachers to bring about the educational process for our children. we have no recreation facilities. and as i thought about it, many of us think we have arrived and in case you feel like that, you've got off at the wrong station. you ain't there yet. you've got to get back on the bus. and it was dr. king who said, hate can't drive out hate. only love can do that. you said it. he also said darkness can't drive out darkness. only night can do that. but he also said i don't fool with no scared negroes, you can't be afraid in this type of stuff. you know, we have to stay on the field. they said someone is c

promoted to command the confederate army of the mississippi by may of 1862. well, those of you who know civil war military history know what happens. he takes the army on a massive invasion of kentucky. a slave state that never seceded from the union. in many ways did very well in that kentucky campaign. marching rapidly with very little logistical support, adding mobility to civil war field armies that had never been done before. by the way, many union commanders are very impressed by bragg's invasion of kentucky for that reason. in the end, however, he had to give up kentucky for many reasons. and therefore after evacuating the state was branded as a failure by the news media. jefferson davis continued to support him, however. the next battle is stones river. december 31st, 1862. in january 2nd, 1863. i argue in the book stones river was bragg's best day of the civil war. i think he performed magnificently. he got the drop on the union army on december 31st, attacked them when they weren't expecting it. drove the right wing of the union army three miles. pu

during the recent visit to mississippi, we spoke with suzanne on the codirector of the center for the study of the war and society at the university of southern mississippi about letters and entries from soldiers and their families during the civil war. i really had always wanted to write this kind of sweeping saga of the civil war and for me as a military historian over the years what i've noticed is that as much as we are fascinated by what happens on the battlefield and the sweeping changes that take place because of this campaign or that campaign the soldiers want to know how soon they can make it home, did you get the crops income is the horse still lame, that's what they want to know about, and so i really come to the side in all of my writing that you have to look at those. you have to look at the soldiers and their families, the battlefront and homefront if you are going to understand the war. so, when i started the book, the primary goal was to leave the latest arguments, the latest historical theories and stories. so, that for example, one of the standard arguments for a lon

dhs officials say their new partnership in mississippi will help them stay ahead of the curve.in mississippi jonathan serrie, fox news. >> former schoolbus driver in georgia charged with driving under the influence. >> so take look what police found inside her purse. yeah. open bottles of alcohol right there make matters worse deputies say she was driving a busful of children at the time. school officials found out about after a student teched their parents hey, i think the bus driver is drunk. deputies say carol ethridge goes ouadmits to going out and drinkg the day b that's all she's admitting. >> time to head back down the shore. kathy orr is in ocean city. >> though we love be here in the studio we would rather so much be with you right there in ocean city. >> i would love you to be here. look i have three chairs right there. >> oh perfect. >> kathy, lucy and iain. >> nice. [ laughter ] >> and lucy, there's your pink boogie board. >> i'm glad you brought it. >> i see it. [ laughter ] >> i'm waiting for you guys. >> all right. >> we're on our way. >> it is so beautiful. look

i am attending the mississippi book festival and i understand it is the third year the state of mississippi is having its book festival and other states, texas is one of the first. wisconsin also. we are trying to make sure we reach out as library of congress and support that. >> host: booktv will be live at the 17th annual national book festival in washington dc convention center saturday, labor day weekend. we will be live with other events and call ins, full schedules available at booktv.org. >> booktv visited capitol hill to ask members of congress what they are reading this summer and here's a look at the books arizona senator john mccain is reading. first unless german novelist's all quiet on the western front. next pulitzer prize-winning historian james mcpherson's analysis of the civil war, battle cry of freedom followed by the late journalist david halverson's accounts of how america became involved in the vietnam war in the best and the brightest. earnest anyway's novel for whom the bell tolls is on the list as well as ingush poet robert graves's autobiography, goodbye to all that

host: herby in mississippi, democrats line. barbour inot haley mississippi and a rogue flag, cannot make excuses like that. leave those statues up. give black people there reparations. hit america where hurts, their pocket. we would not have the goods. we would be living like rich white people, we are spending all this money in iraq, building countries, you don't want black people to have money. the jews received there reparations. you all own the media, new york, everything. host: that is herby from mississippi. if you want to respond. guest: what i agree with is down on one level, taking statues is a symbolic act. that is not necessarily, just taking down the statues will not improve the life of people in baltimore or st. louis. in baltimore, we spend so much money on police. one out of every four municipal employees is a police officer. if we were a nation, that would be called a police state. dealing with the statues is only part of the issue. the other part is public policy. whether that should take the form of reparations

host: herby in mississippi, democrats line. caller: come on off that, man.e got haley barbour in mississippi and a rogue flag, cannot make excuses like that. leave those statues up. what you do is go ahead and pay black people there reparations. hit america where hurts, their pocket. this right here would solve a lot of our problems in the black community. we would not have ghettos. we would not be having the hoods. we would be living like rich white people. we are spending all this money in iraq, building countries, you don't want black people to have what they are entitled to. when you have this racial thing, the jews jump in there. the jews received their reparations. you all own the media, new york, everything. host: that is herby from mississippi. professor spence, if you want to respond? guest: what i agree with is that, on one level, taking down statues is a symbolic act. that is not necessarily, just taking down the statues will not improve the life chances of folks in detroit or baltimore or st. louis. here in baltimore, we spend so much money on po