in south mississippi. she doesn't have any connections within the community. if you know anything about 19th-century america it's all about your connections and she's writing saying we are literally starving and no one will help me. again this is where 19th-century americans see the governor as someone who's going to be the protector, who will help them. these are the types of letters you will see this one in particular code in books all the time but is not necessarily dissent. this is a desperate woman who needs help. she is desperately pleading for assistance, but you get enough of this, this could be problematic but this is what a mean when i want folks to think through the question of dissent and how problematic it can be. this one i want to share with you all is from may of 1864. this is another case of the woman by the name of sarah. by the way y'all i don't know if we have -- we do. see bush as a mark? she had some coffee today. a little shaky. that's what i meant when you can hear from people from

emily: what do you have to say to mississippi leaders who say they're speaking for the people of mississippi and fighting for this 15-week band? shannon: i live in mississippi and you are not peeking for me. emily: alright. from jessica. there appears to be a majority of supreme court justices interested in curbing abortion rights. how will the center for reproductive rights do it to work if the court significantly revises or overrules roe v. wade? nancy: julie, why don't you talk about that, julie leads or litigation team at the center for reproductive rights. she could talk about this from a litigation perspective. julie: i think from the center's perspective, we will not stop trying to fight for women's ability to make this decision. we think it is a fundamental right under the constitution, and should the court decide that it is not a protected right under the liberty clause, we will continue with legal arguments. in addition there are state courts and state statutes that can provide protection for people to be able to make this decision for themselves, and people continue to litigate in

it's up in the mississippi delta. right on the mississippi river. the first complaint, if you can read there. if you're in the back, it's not that surprising. the person is asking anything to be done with the party who have taken oaths or travel. we're kind of trading with the enemy. not that surprising but sheer the part that does get surprising. the man writing says i captured five negroes from the island 75 near lake boliver. three of them belong to mr. humphreys, one to many manley. they were engaged in tearing down the houses on general vicks place. he has several times visited mr. estelle's place at night and taken whatever he wanted. coe with his negroes and his crew and took his overseer prisoner. what this should be reminding you of is this is reminiscent of a newt knight. if there's any genealogy guru in the group, please see me afterwards. he was an overseer before the war. he's known for attacking plantations where he had worked as an overseer or where he's known the area. he seems to be doing this thing that you see newt knight doing an

and then moved down to the mississippi river in south mississippi. so she doesn't have connections within the community. if you know anything about 19th century america, it's all about community connections. and she's writing the governor saying, we are literally starving and no one will help me. again, this is where 19th century americans see the governor as someone who is going to be their protector, someone who will help them. these are the types of letters -- and you will see this one in particular, quoted in books all the time -- where it is not necessarily dissent. this is a desperate woman who needs help. she is desperately pleading for assistance. wbut you get enough of this, this increasingly problematic. but i want to think through this question of dissent and how problematic it can be for the home front. this one that i want to share with you all's from may of 1864. this is another case of a woman by the name of sarah niece. and we have a -- ? yes, we do. oh, you can see i had some coffee today, i'm a little shaky. but that's what i meant

this mississippi case, of course, as i think the anti-choice person said, what the mississippi attorney overturn roe completely. that means, take away this right completely. and it's really important to understand, this is being argued with the backdrop of the texas abortion ban, which has now been in effect for almost three months. especially in the state of texas, roe does not exist. and this supreme court has done nothing, nothing to intervene and to protect that right, so the stakes could not be higher today in this argument before the supreme court. >> cecile richards, thank you very much for being with me this morning. i want to turn to our all-star panel, neal katyal, former acting u.s. solicitor general, has argued dozens of cases in front of the u.s. supreme court. i also want to bring in maya wiley, a civil rights attorney. and joyce vance, a former u.s. attorney. lucky for me to have the opportunity to be with you on this very important day. neal, let me talk first about what we're going to be seeing and actually hearing here on msnbc this morning. when you've gone in front o

that case of mississippi law where mississippi passed a law saying at 15 weeks a child in development in the womb can be protected after that time period. it strikes right at the heart of roe v. wade where in the arbitrary ruling for the supreme court in 1973 they made up a new rule saying when a child is viable, not something that is in law in any spot, created that out of whole cloth. tomorrow morning the supreme court will reopen that conversation about viability. it's an important discussion for us to be able to have as a nation and its vital that we talk about it here as well. it is being discussed across the street of the supreme court and there are laws we should discuss your you as well. so for the next few moments there are multiple different senators are going to speak on this one issue. when is a child a child, and when should states have the right to protect their own citizens lives? supreme court made that murky and has the option tomorrow to be able to make that clear. this conversation though will circle around what should the legal standard be and how should we protect

in the mississippi situation. and they get on the river and he sent earl van dorn in the summer of 62, that is when van dorn sends john c breckinridge to attack baton rouge that's the end of the css arkansas, van dorn is over that department of the time of the offensive taking place, does that make sense. what i'm trying to get you an overview of how many places this guy is that in the short span that is in the war, no doubt jefferson davis trusted him up until this point. we have a problem again in northern mississippi, the missourians who crossed the river are under the command of sterling price the same guy at alcorn tavern van dorn is supposed to go up there and unite with him and take over and they are jointly going to attack the real junction of mississippi. the battle of shiloh with the real junction at the mississippi. . . . over and over and october 3 indian army is a lot to and is awaiting its arrival william rosecrans. there's a small gap between what the two union brigades in the confederate eventually

. >> and inside the mississippi clinic at the heart of the case. >>> plus dr.z wants to go to washington. >> pennsylvania needs a conservative who will put america first. >> running for the u.s. senate as a republican who says he can fix the country. but will the tv doctor's controversies come back to haunt him? >> i don't get why you need to say this stuff because you know it's not true. do you struggle with occasional nerve aches in your hands or feet? try nervivenerve relief from the world's #1 selling nerve care company. nervive contains alpha lipoic acid to relieve occasional nerve aches, weakness and discomfort. try nervivenerve relief. ♪ ♪ tequila herradura. extraordinary awaits. ♪ ♪ tequila herradura. extraordinary awaits. ♪ >>> good evening. thank you for joining us. the mississippi abortion law before the supreme court is expected to impact the right to choose throughout this country. and today we got a real sense of how the justices might decide the case. the fate of roe v. wade. here's abc's rachel scott. >> come on, come on, join the fight, abortio

on terms of the mississippi law, she writes that enacted by the mississippi legislature in 2018, the law known as the gestational age act has never gone into effect from the federal district court in the conservative u.s. court of appeals for the fifth circuit blocked the law, explaining that roe and casey bar states from banning abortions before fetal viability when the fetus can survive outside the womb. mississippi asked the justices to weigh-in after the court agreed to take up the case. the state began urging the court to overturn those landmark decisions, arguing for the state on wednesday mississippi's solicitor general told the justices that roe and casey "h aunt our country and poison the law. abortion is a heart issue any question that should be left up to the people to decide." we'd like to hear your voice, and we will get to your cause momentarily, but justice kennedy -- justice kavanaugh, rather, was asking about the view that the court should get out of the contentious issue of abortion. >> the core problem here is that the court has been forced by the position you are

on terms of the mississippi law, she writes that enacted by the mississippi legislature in 2018, the law known as the gestational age act has never gone into effect from the federal district court in the conservative u.s. court of appeals for the fifth circuit blocked the law, explaining that roe and casey bar states from banning abortions before fetal viability when the fetus can survive outside the womb. mississippi asked the justices to weigh-in after the court agreed to take up the case. the state began urging the court to overturn those landmark decisions, arguing for the state on wednesday mississippi's solicitor general told the justices that roe and casey "haunt our country and poisoned the law. abortion is a hard issue any question that should be left up to the people to decide." we'd like to hear your voice, and we will get to your calls momentarily, but justice kennedy -- justice kavanaugh, rather, was asking about the view that the court should get out of the contentious issue of abortion. here is part of his questioning. [video clip] >> the core problem here is that the

in terms of the mississippi law, she writes enacted by the mississippi legislature in 2018, the law known as the gestational age act, has never gone into effect with the federal district court and the conservative u.s. court of appeals for the fifth circuit blocked the law explaining roe and casey blocked states from banning abortions before viability when the fetus can survive outside the womb. mississippi asked the justices to weigh in after the court agreed to take up the case, the state began urging the court to overturn those landmark decisions. arguing for the state on wednesday, mississippi solicitor general scott stewart told the justices roe and casey, quote, haunt our country and have, quote, poisoned the law, and have, quote, choked off compromise. quote, abortion is a hard issue, he said, and it is a question that should be left up to the people to decide. we would like to hear your voice on that. we'll get to your calls momentarily, but justice kennedy, justice kavanaugh, rather, was asking about the view that the court should get out of the contentious issue of abortion. her

matt is a native of houston, mississippi, and received a ba in history from the university of mississippi. he has worked at petersburg national battlefields, national historical park, manassas national battlefield and vicksburg national military park. he's currently employed as a ranger slash historian at gettysburg national military park. and he will be presenting to you about the fallen leader earl van dorn. >> [applause] >> this is the adjustment period, right? where you find out what the mic is like. or like hank williams said, one time, in 1952, my good friend down in georgia, hank williams stepped up to the microphone and he blew in it. and he says, well, boys, this works. let's see if i do. >> [laughs] >>. i appreciate you all having me again. it's good to be that. i have an impossible task, i will go ahead and tell you, i've got 13 pages of single spaced notes on earl van dorn and i've got 45 minutes. and i've got a man standing in the back. this is such a big seminar, you notice they had the introducer of the introducer. that's when you are big-time, when you've got to introduce

they left mississippi.ome of the leaders in mississippi went on to organize in a different way than hammer was organizing. people to plant gardens, grow their own food, raise hogs so they would have meat for the winter time. and health care, she wanted healthcare for everybody. it was not good healthcare and accessing it was very difficult and expensive. she wanted universal preschool for every child. she was struggling for all the issues we are still struggling for that. she understood those basic things in her community could be replicated throughout the country. but her support system really fell away and it is tragic anyway. but a lot of those people went on to do great things in other parts of the country. that left her still in mississippi struggling with that economy, that environment. and it still in the bottom five for healthcare. and for education et cetera in the country so mississippi is still struggling. >> is there a landmark to show her she's from and recognize her? >> yes there is a monument

the mississippi case is a deliberate and direct challenge to that.hallenge being issued in washington at the supreme court on both sides of the argument acknowledge the importance of this moment. we're very excited. we think this is a great case, it is a great law and we look forward to seeing what the court does. we are very concerned that anything short of a complete repudiation of what has happened in mississippi with the legislation is going to be really damaging for access to reproductive health and reproductive freedom in this country. now, the mississippi law reaching the supreme court is one part of why america has reached this moment. next, we need to take a step back because the timing of this law is not by chance. its backers know the supreme court has changed. here are the current nine supreme courtjustices. three of them are appointed by donald trump when he was president and because of them, the court leans decisively towards conservative justices. politics around the court are much more pronounced than they were in 1973. indeed, some a

alabama and mississippi. but, of course, in 1861 the focus is on first sumpter and then virginia. polk travels to richmond in june 1861. he goes there on behalf of the governor of tennessee. harris is -- well, tennessee has yet another complicated one of those succession stories. tennessee leaves the union but doesn't join the confederacy for approximately two months. and so for those two months tennessee creates its own army just like the state armies and discussion about earl van dorm being a major general in the forces of mississippi. well, harris had appointed brigadier generals in the army of tennessee -- or the state army of tennessee. and unlike, perhaps, some of those mississippi forlss because the army -- the tennessee state army would remain in existence for almost two months and begin to take much more shape in the organization before it joined the confederacy. many of those officers would simply be ported over as confederate brigadier generals when tennessee finally joined the confederacy. and in

the wars come from mississippi valley of considerable importance. the course in 1861 and on something or and on virginia. talk travels to richmond in june of 1861. ghost of tennessee. tennessee has yet another complicated secession stories. but does not join the confederacy for approximately two months. tennessee creates its own army just like the state armies that is a discussion about van dorn being a major general in mississippi. but i should harris had brigadier general in tennessee while the state army of tennessee. and unlike him the mississippi forces the tennessee army will remain in existence for almost two months and begin to take much more shape an organization before join the confederacy. many off those officers would simply be ported over as confederate generals. in june, and june, poke travels to richmond in may to jefferson davis. helk is still the bishop of louisiana part he and davis sit down. they have a set of long discussions. poke is an incredible job of laying out the strategic problemshe that face the confederacy along the mis

mississippi ranks 50th in the country in infant mortality.comes to childhood hunger. according to a recent study of what kids need to thrive, looking at education and health and well-being, community, mississippi ranks 50th out of 50 for child well-being. how do you scare those statistics about mississippi with what you say about a culture of life? >> well, first of all, when you look at that unborn baby in the womb and you consider it a human being, it changes your perspective on lots of different things. with respect to the statistics you quoted, when i ran for office and in my first inaugural address, i made it very clear to the people of my state that i believed in my heart i was elected not to try to hide our problems or not to try to hide our challenges but to try to fix them. i perfectly acknowledge that many of those statistics in terms of health outcomes in our state, we are underperforming relative to other states across the nation. it's incumbent upon all of us to work to pass policies to change that. when you look at health outcom

mississippi bans abortion after 15 weeks.rvative leaning justices seemed to be minded to uphold the mississippi law and that would be a devastating blow to abortion rights activists. our correspondent sophie long reports. sophie: antiabortion activists gather outsid the last remaining clinic still providing the procedure in mississippi. >> murdering children is wrong, according to the bible. sophie: there are escorts here to protect those who remain this is a -- to maintain this remains a constitutional right. the difficult and deeply personal decision women who come here have made is judged publicly. this is the front line in a bitter battle that has gone on for decades. ever since the supreme court ruled women had the right to abortion until viability around 24 weeks. mississippi seeks to ban abortions after 15 weeks. if the court rules in the state's favor, it would roll back the law that has been in place for half a century, roe v. wade. >> we are going out into the community, educating folks. sophie: division is deep. th

amy: the supreme court appears set to uphold mississippi's 15-week abortion ban in a move that could radically reduce abortion access in much of the country and undermine the landmark roe v. wade decision. the court's three liberal judges warned that reversing roe would damage the court's legitimacy. >> will this institution survive the stench that this creates in the public perception that the constitution and its reading are just political acts? amy: we will hear excerpts from the oral arguments and speak to professor katie rogers and planned parenthood federation of america chief alexis mcgill johnson. then we go to france where president macron has conducted --inducted josephine baker into the pantheon as racism is on the rise and france with the far right xenophobic writer eric zemmour launching a run for the presidency. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. the u.s. supreme court's conservative justices appeared ready to dramatically roll back reproductive rights wednesday as the court heard oral ar

, that i had to cancel trips down to mississippi. that mighty mississippi river flooding didn't help a couple years ago. so i was not able to see that landscape. i watched a lot of videos online about the environment and talked to family members, people who lived there so i could fill in those gaps, but i did not go -- but they all said the same thing, it's still very much a depressed area. >> well, throughout the conversation, we have noted just how much violence that was a part of this history and this story. we've talked about the connections and the relationships that were so important to hamer and tubman. we've talked about exploring activism and the engagement in organizing ways. what message can each of you leave the audience as having been inspired by both tubman and hamer in the hopes that people can sort of pick up on that energy and perhaps emulate or honor these two women? >> this is the last word. i think that the hamer book is a new opportunity. it's a new opportunity for them to not only learn about mothers and men in

that i had to cancel trips down to mississippi and the mighty mississippi flooding didn't help a couple of years ago so i was not able to see the landscape and i watched documentaries and videos online and talked to family members of hers and people who knew her and lived there so that i could fill in those gap, but i did not go, but they all said the same thing. it's still very much a depressed area. >> throughout the conversation we have the story and we talked about the connections that were so important to haimer and tubman. we talked about exploring activism and the engagement and organizing ways. what kinds of messages can each of you leave the audience as having been inspired by both tubman and haimer in the hopes that people can sort of pick up that energy and work to perhaps emulate or honor these two amazing women. >> well, i can say right away -- go ahead. the last word. >> yes. i think the haimer book is a new opportunity. it's an opportunity for all of us to learn, not only women, but men and young people in particular who maybe did not know that it was that long ago that w

the mississippi law is 15 weeks. roe v. wade is 24 weeks or at viability.know that that is an honest and effective definition, but also it is an effective line to draw. and you're right, six weeks -- no one is able to discern whether they're pregnant or not. and that means the victim of incest, a 13-year-old girl, or the victim of rape -- what's happening now is those who have means, who are able economically can flee. mostly to oklahoma. can you believe it? that is not a liberal state. they're fleeing to oklahoma. but the actual crisis takes me back to the bountyhunters of slaves who were attempting to free themselves out of the bondage of slavery. we have now put 21st century women, texas women, college students, poor women, rape victims, incest victims, and we have made them the victims of bounty hunters. senator klobuchar and i have introduced the anti-vigilante bill that we want to push through right now. we want the supreme court to throw both bills -- excuse me, both laws out, but our vigilante bill makes those bounty hunters that would get $10,000 i

casey, states like mississippi have been unable to protect unborn children until viability. that's the developmental point which is considered around 22 weeks at which a child can survive outside of her mother's womb. and because roe and casey are constitutional decisions, there is absolutely nothing that the political branches or anything else can do about it. in fact, long-term abortions will remain legal until the supreme court returns the issue of abortion to the people. under the supreme court's abortion jurisprudence, it is the only once a baby is viable that states are able to enact protections for the unborn children and their mother subject to certain court-mandated exceptions. this is the viability rule that you herald so much about today. -- you heard so much about today. in 2018 we have herald that mississippi legislators passed and governor bryant courageously signed the gestational act, that's the first 15-week abortion ban in the nation. an abortion clinic immediately file a lawsuit, and in may the u.s. supreme court a agreed to hear that student to specifical

an article, a panel discussion with scott stewart about mississippi's supreme court abortion case. panelists talked about arguing before the coat -- before the court. [applause] >> i get the best job of all, i think the, getting to hear from the advocates today. the great task is done, at least for today. the work and the prayers and, frankly, the burning dreams of five decades, which is really more than two generations, cull my may noted with what happened this morning in the highest court of our land. maybe it's just that it's the christmas season and i'm trying to kick it into gear, but i keep thinking of that line from the old carol, the hopes and fears of all the years are meant in this room tonight the -- are met in this room tonight. i think of all the young people who will come here in just a few weeks to march in the march for life. as young people have been marching by tens of thousands year after year since roe first passed. some of those young people are here in the room tonight, and some of them have not grown old, but just more experienced working and praying not just

davis was senator from mississippi. they knew each other very well before the war and some each other routinely. so davis can think of no better man to take over the job of commanding the army. or commanding the forces and ranging for the defenses of the mississippi valley then leonidas polk. so, polk leaves richmond as a major general in the confederate army. he has literally bumped from a second lieutenant, 34 years before, who never commanded troops, to now commanding well our substantial than the entirety of all the forces in the western confederacy. polk has such a controversial after image in our war and our american civil war but it's best to remember that actually polk was reluctant to take this commission. he accepted the command on one condition. he would only hold a -- and davis agreed with this -- until their other great friend, albert sydney johnson arrived, and then davis intended to give johnson command of that department number two. at which time, polk said he wouldn't resign. and he did, in fact, offere

a case out of mississippi.in that state the court could leave roe alone, strike it down or severely limit roe decided in 1973 nearly 50 years ago. >> the court is going to decide whether or not people are going to be able to enjoy their right to choose for themselves whether, when and how to have a child or whether states will be able to put serious and grave restrictions on that right. >> pro-lifeers led by mississippi attorney general lynn fix say now is the time to make a change. >> it is time. it has been nearly 50 years. the reality is this is a rule of law question. it is time to return it to the states. >> this is likely to be a blanket decision affecting the entire country. the decision will come down likely end of june, early july right in the middle of the mid-term election season. bill and dana. >> bill: thank you david outside the courthouse there. >> dana: take it back to our panel. one of the things that will happen. you will hear from the state of mississippi and the mississippi abortion clinic l

and mississippi. harris -- well, tennessee has yet another complicated one of those secession stories. tennessee leaves the union but doesn't join the confederacy for approximately two months. and so for those two month, tennessee creates its own army. just like the state armies. matt's discussion about earl van doran being a major general. well appointed brigadier general this is the state army of tennessee. and unlike perhaps some of those mississippi forces because the army, the tennessee state army would remain in existence for almost two months and begin to take much more shape and organization before it joined the confederacy, many of those officers, men like gideon pillow, to name one example, would simply be ported over as confederate brigadier generals when tennessee finally joined the confederacy. and in june oops, backwards. in june, polk travels to richmond. he meets with jefferson davis. he's still a civilian at this point. he's still the bishop of louisiana. he and davis sit down and the

>> in mississippi. >> my name is missy jones.een working on the clinton riots? >> almost 15 years now, if i think back. >> what is this? >> this is johnson milling company. it's been here for ages, but right behind it is the location of the old train depot. and the thought was that we would put the marker for the clinton riot here because of the importance of the train depot. the clinton riots began on september 4th, 1875. and the diorama behind me tells a version of those events. the original train depot is where white paramilitary units flocked into clinton. there was a political rally, and it was one of the first times that african americans had gotten together to really listen to political candidates. and it was organized by the republican party, but there was also a group of white democrats who were sent there to disrupt things. shots rang out. african american families began to flee the scene. even one mother left her child in the hollow of a tree just for protection. and then over the course of the next several days, white

that he tell the star of the west into the interior of mississippi or the state of mississippi and when the union army approaches during the pass expedition, if you got that one, my hat is off to you. they literally sell this thing into the tine your or of state when union navy approach, they sank it. there's some trivia for you. while he's down there, going back to texas, the good folks at san antonio threw a ball in his honor and after generous toast, he responded in part like there, the only reason i'm telling you this is because i like to hear my voice echo off this microphone. i'm just kidding. it will give you, in all honesty, it will give you a good taste of what he was like and it's all, ladies and gentlemen, cavalier, if you will. i hope he didn't do this off the cuff. if he did, boy, i'm jealous. one mile from the beauty around me here, one kind and approving glance from the eyes of those here who like myself contend in the rough aflee of life were more than sufficient to compensate me for all my humble labors on the field. period. the smile of women and men are the earth mark

does the state of mississippi get to tell women in mississippi they have no control over their own lives and it means a lot about the status of women in our society. >> that's the important part. joyce, thanks. so good to see you in person. may there be many more such occasions. joyce vance, former united states attorney, professor at university of alabama school of law, and also the cohost of the sisters in law podcast. thanks for watching velshi. catch me here every saturday and sunday morning. the sunday show with jonathan capehart begins right now. >>> the biden agenda is facing critical deadlines. a complicating economy, and a new covid variant. white house official karine jean-pierre is here to talk about it all live. >>> the parents of the michigan school shooting suspect have been charged and i'll ask david hogg what it will take to stop the next school shooting. >>> and my conversation with the mayor of san francisco as her city became the first to report the omicron variant in the united states. i'm jonathan capehart. this is the sunday show.

what purpose does the gentleman from mississippi seek recognition? mr. thompson: by direction of the select committee to investigate the january 6th attack on the united states capitol, i call up house report 117-216. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title. the clerk: report to accompany resolution recommending that the house of representatives find mark meadows in contempt of congress for refusal to comply with a subpoena duly issued by the select committee to investigate the january 6 attack on the united states capitol. the speaker pro tempore: pursuan t to house resolution 848, the report is considered as read. for what purpose does the gentleman from mississippi seek recognition? mr. thompson: by direction of the select committee to investigate the january 6th attack on the united states capitol, i call up house resolution 851 and ask for its immediate consideration. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title of the resolution. the clerk: house resolution 851, resolution recommending that the house of representatives

what purpose does the gentleman from mississippi seek recognition? mr. thompson: by direction of the select committee to investigate the january 6th attack on the united states capitol, i call up house report 117-216. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title. the clerk: report to accompany resolution recommending that the house of representatives find mark meadows in contempt of congress for refusal to comply with a subpoena duly issued by the select committee to investigate the january 6 attack on the united states capitol. the speaker pro tempore: pursuan t to house resolution 848, the report is considered as read. for what purpose does the gentleman from mississippi seek recognition? mr. thompson: by direction of the select committee to investigate the january 6th attack on the united states capitol, i call up house resolution 851 and ask for its immediate consideration. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title of the resolution. the clerk: house resolution 851, resolution recommending that the house of representatives

and during this morning, hearings, some justice has seemed prepared to uphold a mississippi mississippi ban on abortions, passed 15 weeks. our secretary of year and legal draws, my verse joined us now with more on this case and why it is actually so significant to abortion rights. molly, thanks for joining me on this. i got a yes. what a controversial story this has been today? absolutely. i don't think people were really expecting it, even though there was quite a showing out in front of supreme court. in fact, i heard everywhere from several 100 to several thousands. so what exactly were the arguments this morning? and more importantly, how did the justices respond? well, it seems to be that, that, you know, and of course, this is a majority. conservative supreme court make up at this point, but it seems that the majority of the conservative justices are leaning towards up holding this law. that mississippi passed in 2018, which essentially violates a woman's constitutional rights abortion, as outlined and provided by the roe vs wade decision. the mississippi is also asking the high c

no republican woman, rich woman in mississippi, not one republican rich daughter in mississippi would ever be affected by the change in the law that the state of mississippi is asking the court to approve. it would just be economically disadvantaged women in mississippi who would then find themselves struggling to somehow come up with the money to be able to travel to another state in the pursuit of liberty. justice sonia sotomayor made the point about how many supreme court justices including republican appointed supreme court justices have supported roe vs. wade over decades and what it will mean if the current republican supreme court justices decide to overturn it. >> the right of a woman to choose, the right to control her own body has been clearly set since casey and never challenged. you want us to reject that line of viability and adopt something different. 15 justices over 50 years have -- or i should say 30 since casey -- have reaffirmed that basic viability line. four have said no. two of them members of this court. but 15 justices have said yes. of varying political backgr

it is texas, mississippi, it is always somebody else with him. it's never his job, his institution to stop it. that's why kavanaugh is making this argument and in many other mainstream sources picked up that argument, because they are always willing to blame someone else for that this conservative court is doing, taking away. >> legitimacy between bush v gore, gutting the voting rights act, allowing the muslim vote to stand. i don't think -- >> joining us, conwoman iona presley of massachusetts. i have to ask you this as a fellow black women, as a sister. listening today for me, congresswoman, to two men, clarence thomas and brett kavanaugh, who were credibly accused of violating the sanctity of woman, both got away with it and got on court. but having them stand up and soberly argue whether or not women are owned by the state. it made me feel some kind of way. i wonder if it did you. >> i will stick with you and be in alignment with the verbiage you used already in this segment, join. unprecedented, rancid and i will offer one more word, predict

abortion law, not just mississippi law.'s start with what the case is about, and that is implications for mississippi. talk to me about that. ines: we have to keep in mind, 1973, here right behind me, the supreme court decided that women have a constitutional right for abortion and that is what the mississippi law overruled in 2018, saying that women after 16 weeks interpregnancy are not able to get an abortion anymore. if this law stands, that would mean after 20 other states would follow this law, leaving many women unable to get an abortion. brent: we have to point out that the roe v. wade case 50 years ago meant that women have had the right to get a legal abortion for half a century. this is the first time that the supreme court, a conservative court, could overturn its own ruling, right? we have never seen this before. ines: no, and actually i think many people in the u.s. and beyond doubt that roe v. wade would never be overturned. now in the year 2021, after, as you just mentioned, president trump was able to instal

this mississippi case threatens both of these rulings. >> ultimately, the mississippi attorney general the supreme court to determine whether any pre-viability restriction on abortion is, on its face, unconstitutional. the line of viability, when a fetus can survive outside the womb, that was at the crux of the roe v. wade decision is squarely in the crosshairs today during oral arguments. in 1992, the justices said we encourage everyone to accept this as the settled law of the land. and public sentiment and the outcry on both sides of the debate have told us that the abortion right itself is far from settled. ros: the supreme court is weighing three possible outcomes. the first would be the court overturns roe v. wade. the second would be it rules that the mississippi law doesn't place an undue burden on women seeking an abortion. this would leave roe v. wade standing in principle, but would undermine it in practice. the third is that it could strike down the mississippi law, allowing roe v. wade to stand as it is. that would seem unlikely, but remains a possibility. when we are consi