wherever there is black majority for the mississippi delta organize. use that political power as the independent force. >> host: the chicken and the day here is the march with stokely carmichael this is a platform to amplify the black power message or he was so frustrated with the march that it was the message? >> guest: he came to the march with the message even with the slogan of black power. soon after the shooting of meredith he goes back to sncc headquarters to tell the governing body why they should participate in the march. with his arguments it gives a platform to advertise our direction of black power and uses the slogan black power even before but he does not use it as a slogan. what do we want? black power. what do we want? black power. sncc was organizing dating back to the '60s there were events organizers who said this is the best place to use a slogan and when black power is used in that way it immediately becomes a controversy you ask many african-americans they remember that night. it to blew their blind. -- their mind. it was a new di

they have been picked up traces of the sioux language as faring south as the mississippi delta and as far east as north carolina. what was to be the pre-columbia sioux nation, it was seven tribes, they followed the mississippi valley north and settled in minnesota. in minnesota they were the b baddest indians and made unending war on the chippewa. they were vicious. war was their ethoes. they had no non-violent culture. they didn't make pots, they didn't even paint anything on their tee-pees or shields. and the first europeans that looked at the sioux were reminded of the monguls. they lived to make war. and they were good at it. for hundreds of years, they dominated the region. then the english trading ships began trading pellets for guns. times changed. the sioux were the hunters and now they are being hunted. it wasn't violence for violence sake. they fought wars to gain territory and bring home booty, but also the old happy hunting ground cliche, the sioux believes there was an afterlife that was happy hunting line filled with clear water and filled with game as far as you can see

paleo linguists picked up traces of the zoo language as far south as the mississippi delta and far east as north carolina. what we know is that pre-columbian sue nation, it was search tribes, the seven followed the miffs valley north and settled in minnesota. now, in minnesota, they were the baddest in the great lakes region, and for centuries, they just made unending war on their neighbors, the creed, the ci had -- the chippawa. war was their ethos. they did not make pots or grow food. they did not even paint anything on their tepees or shields. war was their reason for being, and the first europeans, mostly french, who looked at the sioux, immediately reminded of the north or the huns or the mon gulls. the sioux lived to make war. that was their ethos. they were real good at it, for centuries, hundreds of years, they dominated the region. what happened was when trades ships came into hudson bay and created and the chippawa lived closer, they traded help for guns and the tables turned. the sioux, once the sioux was the hunter, now they were the hunted. once they exposed violence for vi

and in 1964 he is one of the project directors of the second congressional district in the mississippi delta. so he is really just an extraordinary activist. he is part of the christian leadership conference after montgomery. stokely carmichael and his coworkers going to lawrence county, alabama. a county in the black belt of alabama. and they start independent political organization and that is the beginning of the original black panther party. so when carmichael replaces john lewis, he is now representing the radical faith of the civil rights movement and this militant radical insurgency that will become known as lack power. when we think about carmichael and civil rights, he is a key organizer and the only major black power figure who had done that kind of day-to-day organizing is a civil rights activist. >> host: what was his relationship? >> guest: they initially had a good relationship with john lewis. they meet in 1961 were john lewis is one of the people who will be on the freedom ride in may of 1961. they're going to go into alabama, there's a couple of buses, a greyhound bus and he

summer in 1964 he is one of the project directors, but the second congressional district in the mississippi delta. an extraordinary activist and he marches with martin luther king jr. in alabama. the christian leadership conference leaves after montgomery. stokely carmichael and his co-workers going to lawrence county, alabama, a county really in the black belt of alabama. they work with sharecroppers and start independent the little people organizing and that is the root of the original black panther party cell by 1966, john lewis is now congressman, he is really representing the radical face of the civil rights movement and also this militant radical insurgency that will become known as black power so when we think about carmichael and civil rights he is a key organizer in civil rights but is the only major black power figure who had done that kind of day-to-day organizing as a civil rights activist. >> host: what was the relationship? >> they have a good relationship. he needs john lewis in 1961 at a restaurant where john lewis is one of the people on the freedom ride in may of 1969, they're g

some time with this last weekend in places like selma and jackson, tiny little towns in the mississippi deltalike money and rueville, they saw a better day. they saw the ability to change their circumstances, and on the other side of that fight an epic battle that not unlike the fight that we have here today combine individual decisions that people have to make to change their lives and the way they treated people, small, little courages by people like sarah c. crawford. but it also involved a fight in the united states senate that eventually culminated in the civil rights act. they recognized that the path to justice for african-americans didn't actually come with much pain at all. that the path to economic and racial justice for blacks across this country lifted everybody up. and if you talk to a lot of white mississippians or white citizens of alabama, they will tell you that they felt like there was a psychological and mental weight lifted from them and they saw the economies of their states improve. i don't know all of the history, but many people suggest that in the years following worl

1966 a new society has to be made in america and for him black sharecroppers in alabama, mississippi, in the delta were the people who were going to lead a new transformation in american society. >> ifill: we like to put our leaders in boxes. so malcolm x was here, martin luther king, jr. was here. where was stokely carmichael in that continuum? >> i think stokely is a bridge figure and fits in with dr. king and mal malcolm x as a figure ws on the stage of talking about human rights and pushing the envelope. he's the only major black power icon who is also a civil rights activist. so he doesn't just come into activism in the mid, late '60s when things goat get the hot. he knew dr. king -- >> ifill: they got along well. they were a good fit. stokely cries when king is assassinated. he considers him a friend, older brother, mentor, and father figure, but he was also mentored by women, so he's a very interesting figure who's also a critic of the vietnam war. he's a critic of economic injustice. so black power only tells a part of the story. >> ifill: it's interesting, even though he was considered to