some cities have gotten to $15 an hour, pittsburgh, portland, oregon, greensboro, north carolina, missoula of new york, california, by 2018, they'll be up to $15 an hour. there is progress here, is there not? can you at least agree with that part of it? >> there is progress, and the thing is that progress is not uniform. in illinois, we're fighting for 15, not only $15, also fighting for union rights as well. if we were only fighting for $15, new york would not be out protesting today and neither would california. it's bigger than $15. liz: look, mcdonald's is huge. it's massive. but you've heard the argument that $15 an hour imposed on smaller businesses may be disastrous for them, angel. many of them say they will either have to lay off workers, so that's negative, a horrible thing or raise their prices, they may then lose customers, and the next thing you know, you got to lay off people anyway. do you see that side of this? >> i see that side, and first off, i don't agree with that argument. the more money i make, the more money i can put back into the economy. if they don't have to rai