liz: josh hawley on friday, the missouri senator, said he told facebook which by the way us down right now about 1.33%, told facebook get rid of whatsapp and instagram if you're serious. >> that's what i'm saying. the democrats really want to break them up. liz: he's a republican. >> he's a republican. but there's more consensus. there is some consensus among republicans they don't want them to get bigger. they want to crack down. if you are in these stocks, i can't overestimate just what's coming down the pike. elizabeth warren wins the election, with a democratic congress, facebook and google are going to be broken up. they actually say it in meetings. if trump wins, or if there's elizabeth warren wins and the republicans keep the senate, well, you might not get the breakup because it's going to be hard to pass that. lot of republicans don't like breaking up companies just so you know. it's maybe a bridge too far. even so, there's going to be consensus on cracking down, making sure these companies

josh hawley, republican, missouri, mr. senator, thanks very much for being with us, sir. i know you came on at short notice but we appreciate it. thank you very much. >>> jonathan morris living the good life. i don't know. after leaving the priesthood. he starred in a scene with robert de niro in the movie "the irishman." we will ask him what it was like to work with an anti-trump guy like de niro. he's on the show next. ♪

line now by john william louden who's a political consultant former republican member of the missouri senate also author and reece of acim welcome to you both guys research can start with you what do you think of this new rule is this infringing upon free speech or not. well you know here's the thing it's one of the strongest laws in the country in order to protect people who are being attacked by the hate speech that just in an upsurge and here in the country and it's stronger than any other say it's of the laws are stronger than any other state put on by the new york human rights agency however with what's going on i think that you know the people in new york may have it right we need to start using the laws to make it too expensive to be racist too expensive to do the fear mongering and the hate mongering that we're seeing become so commonplace and people become so comfortable spewing in our country it's just not what america was founded upon and it's not something with that we should be allowing. john respond to that. the hate that some people spew and according to research a crimes rose

on the trail today joe biden in missouri. senator elizabeth warren was in michigan.t hour she and kamala harris are attending events in south carolina. senator bernie sanders is attending a rally in oklahoma. there are nine candidates in iowa. that's a day after the famed steak fry. mayor pete buttigieg is on a bus tour there. joining us now in iowa following pete buttigieg. msnbc contributor and professor at the university of texas school of public affairs. and fellow at the hoover institution and former policy director to the mitt romney campaign. let's start with you, josh. what are we hearing in terms of the latest on the campaign trail? >> reporter: well, mayor pete buttigieg obviously dealing with a fourth place showing in that iowa poll, not perhaps the results he may have wanted. campaign officialvise been pointing to another part of the poll that shows among voters in iowa that have a view of pete buttigieg, he is -- he thinks a lot of favorability will start trarnzilating into more votes showing up in polls for him particularly as there are fewer and fewer

missouri senator roy blunt telling chuck todd it is time for the president to, quote, step up. >> we're going to vote on bills on the senate floor that the president's not willing to sign. the president needs to step up here. >> yeah. >> and set some guidelines for what he would do. if the president will let us know what he'd sign if it got on his desk, we'd be much more likely to do that. >> with me now is mayor nan whaley. thank you very much for joining us today. i appreciate on this very important topic as you know very personally, to say the least. why did you decide to go to washington today? >> well, thank you, yasmin, for having me on this evening. i think the thing that my community had said on the night of august 4th, the next even after nine people were killed in our historic oregon district was to do something. and so i came to d.c. to share that message and to call what some 270 mayors have signed bipartisanly on a letter to say we need to pass into the senate an up other down vote on hr-8. it's very easy. we want an up or down vote on background checks, which 90% of americ

i yield the floor suing the senator from missouri. ve>> as pointed out today this is a day that americans remember is a day of unique tragedy. earlier today on the senate floor we had a moment of silence with a series of votes the floor was full of members who were thinking about what happened that day. almost every american alive today knows where they were that morning a beautiful clear morning just like this morning and just to remember where you were there was a likelihood yourhe parents told you where you were. it was a seminal moment to change looking at so many things in our country today we reflect where we were and the changes that occurred after that. there is a member of the house 18 years ago and sharing with capital police today the appreciation for what they do every day. on this day every year one of the last to leave this building as the capital police for working hard to get people out. a sense that the plane was coming here and either hit the white house or the capital. i remember walking out of the door i remember lo

jackson, helene cooper, former republican governor of north carolina pat mccrory and former senator from missouri, democrat claire mccaskill. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >>> good sunday morning, to quote the great yogi berra. it's getting late early out there. yes, there were still 10 candidates at thursday's debate and, yes, there may be even more at the next one. but for now at least it feels as if we have a top three. joe biden bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. there are 141 days before the first votes are cast in iowa, but if anything the gap between the front-runners and the rest of the field only seemed to grow on thursday evening with biden dominating the party's moderates and warren and sanders fighting for the progressives. the democratic race has turned into a contest between incrementalism and structural change, between the inside game and the change the game insurgents. so did anyone win? here's one take. elizabeth warren won the democra

senator from missouri. he is the first senator in terms of his age. he is also breaking of the orthodox on a number of different fronts. prominently on technology and one of the most recent proposals has to do with universities, he would demand a number of different steps in order to make people whole if they were defaulting on the student debt. a number of other proposals along the length and seems to express a willingness to look at a number of other steps. do you think of the steps is being implicitly part of a new right christian work. >> anytime you have any attack it's the right wing thinking. my argument is to seize all university and distribute the money because those are the crystallization of privilege. they can in terms of mitt romney which are fine unconscionable. let's take the radical ideas and be is encouraging that are thinking critically outside the box. i wanted the other elements in the matrix meaning in the media and entertainment and politics. and designed to manipulate and control and limit your options of thought. >> the new rig

pull the gun on thomas hart benton another senator from missouri on the floor of the senate.ulled a knife on a Ãbgot in a fist fight with a fellow senator from arkansas on the floor of the united states senate. i got in a fight in the cloakroom with a guy named johnson fremont who ended d goo being the first republican candidate for president. got in a fight with him, they are not on the floor of the senate set in the senate cloakroom. he threatened to inhang john c hale another senator from a tree. then he got the famous fistfight with jefferson davis. i looked at all that and said how can i not see what scott was up to. he has this very volatile career he was born in 1806 and died in 1880 so his public career spanned a very controversial period of time. he had this great feud with jefferson davis probably jefferson davis most outspoken critic. he ended up getting elected to the confederate congress and some people believed he did that just so he could stand up on the comp floor of the confederate congress and talk about jefferson davis. that's all he did. demanding investig

i'm joined by republican missouri senator josh hawley served on the judiciary and armed services committeewer and get to other issues after that. what do you think is going on here we don't understand yet knowing the story is not complete? >> i'm not sure, bill, what the actual facts are. maybe we'll find out over time. it looks like another deep state attack. another bureaucrat attack, bureaucratic attack on the president. we've seen it over and over and over in this administration from anonymous sources inside the bureaucracy. and attempt to resist the policies of the president of the united states. we'll see what the facts are on this over time. so far i have to say i'm not impressed. >> bill: does the fact that the i.g. is involved give it more credence? >> well, i hope it means we'll get to the bottom of it. there will be some real facts produced here and not anonymous allegations again from bureaucrat i can sources and what we've had to endure at the justice department and the f.b.i. with these same sorts of attacks. frankly unprecedented resistance measures by bureaucrats to try and

senator roy blunt, republican from missouri, member of leadership, thanks for coming on. good to see you. >> democratic candidates are in manchester for the democratic state party convention this weekend, amid growing signs that the field is narrowing to three, joe biden, elizabeth warren, and bernie sanders. one of the lower tier candidates, senator amy klobuchar made her case against both donald trump and some of her democratic opponents. >> i believe i may be more moderate in tone than some of the people running for office, but i'm betting people don't want the louded voice anymore. they have had that right now. that's the guy in the white house. they want someone who is going to be honest with them and tell them that no, we're not going to erase rich kids' college debt. we're not going to do that even though some of my opponents have put that forward as their propos proposal. >> and joining me now is senator amy klobuchar. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> coming in a rare brief respite in washington. >> here we are. >> let me ask a follow-up to what you said ju

>> senator from missouri. >> mr. president, as my friend from indiana and others have pointed out today this is a day that americans remember as a day of unique tragedy. earlier today on the senate floor we had a moment of silence in the middle of a series of votes the senate floor was full of members who paused to think about what had happened that day. i think almost every american alive today knows where they were that morning. it was a beautiful, clear warning just like this morning was the if you were too young to remember where you were that morning, there's a real likelihood that your parents told you where you were that morning. it was a s seminal moment. it changed how we looked at so many things in our country. today we reflect where we were and the changes that occurred after that. i was working in this building on the other side of the building as a member of the house 18 years ago, and i shared with capital please today my appreciation for what they do every day. on this day every year, i remember being o

senator josh hawley, republican from missouri, joins us now. mr. re you giving to the state attorneys general? >> well, be tough and be ready. listen, as attorney general of missouri, i was the first attorney general of the nation to launch an antitrust investigation of google and i can tell you, they will lawyer up, they will say they are going to cooperate but they won't. we had to go to battle with them constantly in our investigation and whether it was over discovery requests, whether it was over basic truthfulness of the documents that they were producing, they will fight tooth and nail just as they do on capitol hill not to be held accountable and they are willing to say and do just about anything. stuart: now, my problem with the googles and facebooks of this world is they know absolutely everything about us. that power is concentrated in the hands of a handful of multibillionaires. i've got a problem with how they use that power in the future. you with me on this? >> absolutely. and the problem is the market concentration, the amount of data

i am thinking of tom cotton, and senator hawley of missouri. when i say populism is everything it isn't, it is anti-madisonian. he said majorities are going to rule, but, therefore, care must be taken that majority opinion is filtered and refined through a representative institution and procedures that slow it down and give it time to mellow and take cognizance of realities. what we want is direct translation of public passions into policy. want to see it, look at brexit. that is what happened. when we sent them 50 destroyers in the land-lease deal, we should have stuffed them with the collected works of james madison. so, they would have seen the ublicatory democracy. mark: what can a conservative do to overcome populism? george: i write books. point out the error of our ways and the wisdom of the founding, that -- point out the fact that madison hadart from a wonderful phrase. when you depart from mitigated democracy, a wonderful phrase, that you get access, you get -- excess, you get donald trump. wretched excess. mark: if republicans are li

tucker: even as these, this segment has begun, within the last 3 or 4 minutes, josh hawley, senator from missourind one of our favorites on this show, tweeted that he just received information from facebook, facebook is pledging to put some of your videos back online. what's your response to that? >> so facebook used two abortion interests-to-two partisan abortion interests to punish by account and three million followers on facebook. they've been saying we're going to fix it, we're going to fix it for over a week. they're saying to it senator hawley and senator cruz and others, who sent a letter to mark zuckerberg saying why are you using abortion interests as your fact checkers of a pro-lifer. we'll believe when it we see it, as of about ten minutes ago the violation tags were still on our accounts punishing our pro-life accounts online. we'll believe when it we see it. >> tucker: the last time we had a pro-life guest on this show, the attorney general of california tried to force him not to talk any more. is this, is this a feature of modern american life, where if the tern general of a state

. >>> on capitol hill, zuckerberg met with senator josh hawley, a missouri republican who says he is concerned about facebook taking people's data without consent. and alleged bias against some conservative groups. >>> a warning for millions of iphone users about the new ios 13 operating system. experts say there is a flaw that can expose your stored contact details without requiring a passcode. apple says it will offer a fix in its next version of the operating system, due to be released next week. >>> cal state university- monterey bay is warning students about counterfeit pills that may be laced with fentanyl. this weekend, campus police responded to a student who appeared to be having an overdose. officers used narcan to reverse the side effects. police believe the student took counterfeit percocets that contained fentanyl. >> 18 months ago, our police department started carrying narcan in their vehicles, and that was just a way for us to be proactive, and anticipate with the uptick nationally. >> campus police say this is the first time officers have had to use that can. >>> an

senator roy blunt of missouri, not ready to make any conclusions. senator marco rubio, more questions than answers. senator mike rounds, south dakota. let the committee investigate. senator joni ernst, going to have to dig into it. senator susan collins, obviously, a lot of questions. >> yeah, i saw that. >> are these the kind of responses -- >> we don't want to be attacking collins, because she's the one who stood up when they were trying to kill health care for 21 million americans. but for these other people to not have a comment about that transcript to me is absurd. what the president did is he called a foreign leader and asked him to do something that was totally completely inappropriate. excuse me, alisyn. totally and completely inappropriate, to say, we need more information. i'm surprised at lamar. i love lamar. a great guy, former governor, senator, all of this, to say, well -- you've got to have a comment on this. this is not right. if you whistle past the graveyard on here, you also set a precedent by ignoring something that is extremely

i will talk to a republican senate leadership, roy blount of missouri. >> plus, man theft e chester united. democratic candidates flood new hampshire. >> in this presidential race, we don't just want to win. we want to win big. >> my guest, presidential candidate amy klobuchar. >>> also, president trump says he called off secret talks between the taliban and the afghan ghast and i'll talk about that. and we know who president trump said would pay for his border wall. >> mexico will pay for the wall! believe me. >> but now the president is shifting billions from the military to help build part of that wall. will he pay a political price? joining me for insight and analysis are -- amy walter, national editor of the political report. peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the new york times, chem berly atkins, senior news correspondent for wbor and columnist joan is that gojonah . >> announcer: this is meet the press with chuck todd. >> food sunday morning. if a president says one thing that's not true, it can become a very big deal. think of president obama's claim if you like your

former senator from missouri claire mccaskill, she said that this hurt her politically. this is part of what she mentioned to my colleague chuck todd. take a listen. >> what it did for those of us who were running it crystallized how bad washington is. the mess really occurred because the information that needed to be investigated came out so late and then it looked like a kneecap even though there were reasons it was late, i'm not sure good ones. but if the information had come out early i think you could have seen a full throat fbi investigation but this isn't going away if the nib never even bothered to talk to people surrounding this woman's allegation. >> jacqueline, do you suspect that it's going to go away now or do you think this is something that we are talking about six months from now? >> yeah, i could see this being something we continue to talk about, just as it dragged on for a long news cycle in the trump era, at least, this -- if there is an investigation that commences now, this could drag on well into the primary and be a talking point in the general el

one of the interesting things that popped up was a senator from missouri said he pressed him on what'svide on capital about tech companies and trying to regulate it. what can we expect amid the growing push for the d.c. crowd to regulate and crack down on tech companies? >> especially ahead of the election? >> that's the key point. we know we've got an election year coming and congress isn't known forgetti getting stuff do the run-up to an election. i think i was in this seat earlier this week talking you about the conflicts between the agencies about lines of communication and jurisdiction. what i'm watching is maze e what's happening in the states. what a lot a state lawmakers are pushing. that could be the template for what happens in washington. >> nick johnson life in washington, d.c. always a pleasure. we're going to be reading axios am in a bit. you can sign up for the newsletter by going to sign-up point axios.com. >> that does it for us this morning, "morning joe," everybody, starts right now. >>> your campaign for foreigners, russia, china, somebody else offers you informatio

. >> this is a republican senator from missouri. this is his response to the allegations. >> i'm not sure what the actual facts are, maybe we'll find out over time. looks like another deep state attack, another bureaucratic attack on the president. we have seen this over and over and over in this administration from anonymous sources deep inside the bureaucracy. it has been an unprecedented attempt by the bureaucracy to resist the policies of a duly elected president of the united states. we'll see what the facts actually are on this over time, but so far i have to say i'm not impressed. >> you're never going to see the attacks stop. the left is not going to give up because they cannot even accept the fact that they lost. >> michael, it was just like whatever the trump base says, i'm in. >> right. they're trying to pull the president's teflon over themselves and stick with his story, his version of reality and events. >> both those folks won in 2018 in places that -- >> supporters of the president. >> i notice you didn't see, it is

copa 2.0 bill, which he has introduced on a bipartisan basis with josh hawley, the republican senator from missouri. what that bill will do in short to be consistent with california and gdpr -- >> spell out your acronym, gdpr. >> you spell it out. >> general data protection regulation. >> thank you, jim. >> what it would do is create -- as everybody knows, copa is only 12 and under. senator markey and others believe 13, 14, 15-year-olds need special protections. not necessarily the same as 12 and under, but still need special protections. so what the bill would do is extend protections to 13, 14 and 15-year-olds. it would also change the knowledge standard from actual to constructive. it would ban targeted ads for kids and it does create an eraser button consistent with the law in california that allows parents and children to erase information that they themselves have posted so as to not violate the first amendment. the other two bills are the camera act, which is the children immediate research advancement act which is directing nih to do a five-year study on the impact of technology on children

senator from missouri, claire mccaskill. msnbc national security analyst matt miller. clint watts. msnbc national security contributor mike schmidt. ben rhodes, security adviser for president obama. claire, let me start with you. we sat here together at the end of "morning joe," poring through the whistle-blower complaint. we've now sat through three hours and 22 minutes of testimony from the country's acting dni, on the job for 42 days. a senior intelligence official telling me moments ago that congress has the roadmap, they have what they need in that complaint. >> yeah, i thought that there was way too much focus on process in this hearing and not enough on substance. i understand that there are constraints about what this witness was going to testify to. but i do think they got bogged down in, you know, why didn't he give it to congress. congress has it now. and it is an unbelievable inspector general report. unbelievable. and i don't think the public watching this got the full impact of what's in that report. >> the whistle-blower complaint, dwlof the we don't have the full ig

i'm thinking of tom cotton, senator holly of missouri. populism, it is anti-madisonian. madison said, democracy is our system. majorities are going to rule. but therefore care must be taken that majority opinion is filtered and refined through representative institutions and through procedures that slow it down and give it time to mellow and take cognizance of realities. populism says what we want is direct translation of public passion into public policy. you want to see it? look at brexit. that's what happened. when we sent them 50 destroyers in the deal in 1940, we should have stuffed them with the collected works of james madison. so that they would have seen the folly of that. >> if populism is antithetical to conservatism, what can a conservative do to overcome it? george: well, i write books. point out the error of our ways. point out the wisdom of the founding. point out the fact that when you depart from what madison, wonderful phrase, when you mitigatedm what democracy, wonderful phrase, you get excess, you get donald trump , you get huey long. you get excess.

missouri. he is expected back on capitol hill today and later this week to have more conversations. senate judiciary chairman lindsey graham said barr still of not have a clear answer where trump stands on background checks. they are basically work shopping ideas to bring to the president to see how he feels about them because there is anxiety among republicans in congress to pass anything that the president might not like because of his repeated strategy of hitting hard on republicans who do not walk the party line. a party line is what the .residentants if the president doesn't like it, they could feel the political heat. host: what do we know that the president will accept and when might we hear his proposal? those two things are very much up in the air right now. last week, chris murphy, to me, --toomey, and mansion thought they would hear a 24,osal from trump within 48 hours. we have gotten only glimpses of gun trump would accept as control legislation and he has been variable. he moved his position. immediately after shooting, he will come out in favor of background checks and all th

harry truman was a second term senator from missouri.he saw, actually, washington transform into this place where lobbyists were seeking these defense contracts, scurrying after defense contracts, the money was just flowing, it really worried truman. truman takes off on a road trip and drives south to florida and through the midwest and up to michigan, washington, dc, thousands of miles in his car. he came back to washington, stood up behind his desk on the floor of the senate chamber and said, i have deep concerns. so he devised a strategy, and even the hint that the truman committee maybe coming to investigate a particular plant or corporation would lead to internal changes so there would be no need for an investigation. it's a really effective committee that exists all through wartime. arguably, he would not have been vice presidential candidate without his chairmanship of this committee. it raised his national profile. and so, battles over executive privilege and the information congress has the right to look at, that has led to some

the presiding officer: the senator from missouri. mr. blunt: mr. president, as my friend from indiana and others have pointed out today, this is a day that americans remember as a day of unique tragedy. earlier today, on the senate floor, we had a moment of silence in the middle of a series of votes. the senate floor was full of members who paused to think about what had happened that day. i think almost every american alive today knows where they were that morning. it was a beautiful, clear morning just like this morning was. if you were too young to remember where you were that morning, there is a real likelihood that your parents told you where you were that morning. it was a seminal moment. it changed how we looked at so many things in our country. today we reflect where we were and the changes that occurred after that. i had a -- i was working in this building on the other side of the building as a member of the house 18 years ago, and i shared with capitol police today my appreciation for what they do every day. on this day, every year i remem

holly, your new senator from missouri. he is using the term cosmopolitan. he is using the term cosmopolitan. and because apollo has all kinds of anti-semitic overtones. allnd cosmopolitan has kinds of auntie medic over terms. and he said i'm not going to call out josh hawley on using it. going to defeat anti-semitism it will be essential that we are better than that. so we cannot get to our questions. i would like our panelists to wrap up in 30 or 45 seconds. and we will begin with tomorrow. tamara: . , i do not have a neat summation. i will tell you what i have been trying to do in the midst of this difficult environment. clear careful, precise. beliefs, in my own understandings. number two, try not to ascribe motives. now there are people who engage in a bad pattern of behavior. entity certain point you say, well if they are not interested in changing, then i can infer something about their intent. but do not jump to ascribe motives. up theber three, lift kind of political conversations that we want more of. ok? i think part of what has been so difficult

senator josh hawley from missouri adds that usmca opens up the canadian dairy market which is protected old nafta, to missouri farmers, that's key. >> that is really important to our farmers. it's a good deal. it is a better deal than the old nafta was. it opens up markets on fairer terms for our farmers. i hope the congress acts. the problem is nancy pelosi will not bring it up for a vote. this is win for farmers this is a win for manufacturers. this is a win for producers. let's have a vote. reporter: nancy pelosi formed a nine person working group to tweak the agreement, as well as worker protections, environmental controls. fox news learned that group think made an offer to trade representative robert lighthizer, has not heard back yet. mexico already ratified usmca. canada signals they would ratify usmca but they won't bring it up, according to my trade sources in canada until the u.s. house of representatives schedules a vote. now on that front canadian prime minister justin trudeau called house speaker nancy pelosi to try to ease her mind, her mind at rest about the deal. sources

but we have to be talking about awesome places like north dakota, or indiana or missouri, places where democrat senators used to win and we need to make sure we have somebody at the top of the ticket who has won in a red or purple state if we want to make the victories across it country and i believe i can do that, but we will have good candidates in montana, it won't be me, it will be everything i can to get him or her elected. gillian: governor, if what you really want to do though going into next year is move the party forward, make sure the momentum stays with democrats, you want to unseat president trump, you have to kind of admit though that angling for a senate seat, especially with your issues, now, the environment, they kind of lend themselves perfectly to a senate seat. >> well, i think from the respect of, look it, if warren or sanders gets a nomination, then the republican governor could be appointing republican senators along the way. so from that perspective, it really it like, i'm in a state where a third of the counties went obama, obama, trump. in iowa a third of the counties went obama

i know we have a former senator from the state of missouri with us. guns, red meat, ford f-150s if they are looking to get back that democratic voter that might have voted for obama and then went for donald trump the blue collar voter who's are insulted when democrats come to town and say don't worry you're all going to get green jobs. no they're not. where are the green jobs. that's not going to happen. >> i'm not going to take on all of that. but let me try to take on the gun question. the gun debate is changing. >> it is changing. >> and it started changing with some folks you have done incredible interviews with, the parkland kids. >> uh-huh. >> and gun control is not the political third realm for democrats it used to be. it just isn't. that's why you see walmart and other big retail. >> walgreens. >> they need the trump voter and pick up driver to shop in their stores. it just isn't that's good news for the democrats the bad new or dangerous is the position, same for both sides, the positions that are most popular that speak to their hearts and g

was on internet privacy and one of the harshest critics on capitol hill with senator josh hawley, a republican from missouri. josh hawley is calling on facebook to sell its whatsapp and instagram divisions. he wants them to prove the company is serious about protecting privacy. mark zuckerberg apparently was not interested in that idea. >> josh hawley and a democrat from virginia have proposed legislation that would force tech companies to tell users what data they are collecting and how much it is worth. >>> president trump recently visited the bay area. his first trip here since taking office. it was brief but controversial and he was quite critical of san francisco. phil matier and i asked san francisco ex-mayor willie brown about the visit. >> typical trump. without any credibility whatsoever. he looks around to find something popular to discuss and particularly if it is under democratic jurisdiction and he proceeds to exploit it and that is what he did. >> quick question. is what he said true or not true? >> and not true. >> there is this focus on the sewer system and technically it is not true and tec

republican senator from missouri, josh hawley joins us now with more of that closed door meeting. : so mark zuckerberg said so what can i do? and you said sell off instagram and what's app. and he said what? >> he said a quote i don't even know how to respond to that i said just say yes. my point is, steve, if they are serious about privacy. if they are serious about competition and facebook is serious about bias. don't just talk about it. facebook always apologizes when they get caught doing things like censoring conservatives which they just did to a pro-life group and they say we are sorry. i say prove that you are going to be different. quit harvesting people's data. sell off people's companies that you are using to create a monopoly. submit to independent third party audit to prove that you are not biased against conservatives. steve: in fact, i understand that zuckerberg said that a fact checker acted in a biased way when they were working on one of the things you were interested in. explain that conversation. >> exactly right. about two weeks ago facebook censored a pro-life

>> i think it's telling that the call to break up the company was coming from a republican senator from missouri're getting it on all sides right now. they have reviews happening by house subcommittee, by the fcc, by the justice department. they're getting hit on privacy, on election security, national security, on various public health, addiction issues and facebook was a pinata for so long they were so flat footed in their initial response to criticism that i actually even though yesterday was probably a pretty painful day for them, it was kind of a necessary first step for behaving in a big way facebook is racing ahead saying, all right, we know that this needs to be regulated. we're willing to accept some additional layer of government scrutiny and let us be your partner in producing that rather than producing something that we can't live with because the thing that they actually genuinely fear most is not regulation, what they fear is having the core of their platform broken up into these component companies. >> do you think there's a case for that do you think there's enough support behind

senator holly. we know he is not a mayor from missouri. all right. thank you, hillary.aughn, breaking news, the interim spending bill has just passed, the bill to avoid the government shutdown. it was 301 votes to 123 nos. that bill has just passed which will now go to the senate which could take it up apparently next week. closinbell ringing in 29 minutes. dow is down 14 points. s&p now up just 2 points. and the nasdaq up 14. the white house taking clear aim and firing at california's emissions rules, and that would strip the golden state of its rights to set its own specific unique auto standards. rules already backed by four of the biggest carmakers in the world and many a californian who has watched the smog of the 70s go away to clear air today. obama epa chief gina mccarthy here to respond to what is turning out to be a controversial move by the trump administration. on this week's everyone talks to liz pod cast my guest is tough as nails. you are looking at the opi cofounder, the star of opi nail polish giant. yep, find out how she escaped communist hungary, immi

we have a former senator from the state of missouri here with us. guns, red meat, ford f 150s, if they're looking to get back that democratic voter that might have voted for obama and then went for donald trump, the blue collar voters who are insulted when democrats come to town and say don't worry, you are all going to get green jobs, no they are not. >> i'm not going to take on everything. let me take on the gun question. the gun debate is changing. it started changing with some folks that you've done some research with the parkland kids. guns are not -- gun control isn't the political third route for democrats that it used to be. that's why you see wal-mart and other big retailers -- >> taking on gun control. >> need the trump voter to shop in their stores. that's the good news for democrats. the bad news i think for democrats or the danger is that the positions -- the same goes for both sides. the positions that are most popular that speak to their hearts and their guts and they give voice to the rage that any parent with a kid younger than 7 th

with the same thing, and incredibly ted cruz, your own senator from here in texas seems to be at open to that same idea. and josh holly from missouri, there are a number of others. i've been working with the antitrust division the federal trade commission, because pretty much everybody knows we gotta do something. and ant in tech has been so good for growth. [smith] well honestly, that's a big move in the right direction, just that. the fact that there's an acknowledgement of the problem. m [mcnamee] totally, a point is, it's pro-growth. so everybody likes it. [smith] last questhould we all get off facebook? [mcnamee] i can't. ngi've got a book i'm tro sell to people on facebook and instagram. [smith] oh my god! [m hamee] no, i can't beocrite. i can't be a hypocrite. and the problem is -- [smith] who's monetizing now, roger? [mcnamee] i want to reform tm, right? i've changed my habits. i don't e messenger anymore. i don't do any political stuff. i've gotten off goog almost entirely. and you know, i do think you wanna change your behavior. use other products, don' let th. [smith] okay, that's a good place to end. roger, i wish s u g

meeting with lawmakers ylan mui has the latest for us >> zuckerberg is meeting with senator josh hawley, a republican from missouri you can see all the reporters and cameras outside the office there anxiously awaiting the end of this meeting. so far it's lasted just over about half an hour and before he came down here to meet with hawley he met with utah senator mike lee, another republican lee said they spoke about several key issues including bias against conservatives on the social media platform, anti-trust government regulation, the section 230 liability shield as well as data privacy. but lee did not characterize the tenor of those meetings. he has been critical of facebook and of big tech in general in recent months. we will see if senator hawley gives us some more information about how that meeting went once it wraps up. we do expect him to address reporters and we'll bring you all the latest when we have it back over to you >> all right keep us posted ylan, thanks stocks trading kind of mixed to lower. we lost some earlier gains following yesterday's interest rate cut by the fed. i spoke with marathon ass

appropriators say how are you helping on that disaster in missouri, you do not want to say, i am sorry senatorwill not help. underlying legislation , the stafford act, created away for the federal government to assist state and local governments. how far back did you track the money and response that fema over the number of years? guest: back to 1998, and i stopped at 1998 only because fema puts a lot of great information online and has all of the spending information going back as far as 1998, i could have gotten more going back more years, it would've required open records requests that would have taken a long time, and the point was easily made over 20 years of spending data. host: tom frank is our guest. his pieces focused on fema and the response to emergency and why the agency is not ready for catastrophes. we welcome your calls and comments. you can call us at 202-748-8000 if you are a democrat. republicans can use 202-748-8001 . for independents, there is 202-748-8002. we touched on some of the political pressure that members of congress feel, governors push in terms of a response, why