played by the rules and of course, he would not return the call but they called and said i'm sorry mister bennett. this isn't a plaintiffs organization it is a creature of the bishop he signed where the subject is within his jurisdiction and we said child abuse and they said no. where sorry so than i did something with anne's permission and i sent a bunch of faxes. and i was admonished by one of the bishops and said you don't send faxes to the vatican. [laughter] and i said before you get too upset with me and let me tell you i got faxes back one from the cardinal at the time was the second most powerful person then another very ryprominent catholic and it was pretty remarkable. but you can even get to see the guy and it's only five minutes but we were there for twooo hours. he was hearing things for the first time. we told him about things and he could not believe what he was hearing so we felt that it was a successful meeting and said let's go have a great italian dinner we had a great elcabdriver he drove crazy but the cardinals stepped off the curb and we missed him about 6 inches. [laughter]