>> you just rephrase the question about mister mueller and previously it was about the investigation if i'm understanding the question rectally, no discussions of the kind you are asking . >> you're saying no, you haven't talked to anyone in the white house about robert mueller, the special counsel. >> you rephrase the question again, senator. of course i know mister mueller personally from my prior experience in the, i haven't seen him in a long time but i knew himwhen we work together the bush administration . but i've had no discussions of the kind that i think you are asking about . >> well, i'm asking about the kind you are thinking about. >> i haven't had any discussions of the kind i am thinking about either . >> i'm going to take that as a no which you are giving under oath and put aside the humor for the moment. >> i'm not trying to be humorous, i'm trying to be accurate. for example, if someone says your courthouse -- >> i'm talking about discussions with anyone who works for the president of the united states in the white house about the special counsel and so far rightly,