blacblack students at mit some s ago. e students enrolled at mit scored in the top 10% on their math sat scores. of all of the kids in the country regardless of color that they were in the bottom 10% at mit. so, you take these very bright kids who would just be hitting it out of the park at a less selective schools. they are at mit struggling. and as a result many don't graduate of mit doesn't care about that. they care about how the freshman class works. whether it looks like there is enough diversity and whether the college catalog has the right look. but for me someone who is concerned about the level of public graduates in this country i would like to see more of them graduate and the evidence shows me that more graduates than the absence of affirmative action policies than when we have affirmative action policies in place. >> host: please stop helping of how liberals make it hard for blacks to succeed. the author with us today jason riley. this is a very hot conversation. i'm thrilled to be sitting here talking with y