we heard from senator mitch mcconnell. we have a bit of the sound from him talking about what he expects, you can also go to our website to find everything that's going on with the shutdown as far as previous interviews that we have done. we're just going to take a look and sit back as the one of 16th congress is set to come in. >> this is what it will look like. mitch mcconnell was to remain majority leader of the republicans, of the senate. john thune will take on and will be the majority whip and the conference chair for senate republicans will be john barrasso. turning over to the democrats, it is chuck schumer as minority leader. dick durbin as minority whip and patty murray also as assistant minority leader. that's just what to expect as far as leadership, the ones that will be making in setting the temple for activities of the 116th congress. the 20th amendment to amendment to the constitution directs that congress convenes at noon on january the and odd-numbered year. that date can change from time to time. legisla

mitch mcconnell did get burned.ng i learned about mitch mcconnell is he only gets burned once, on any one issue. i don't think he is going to proceed until he is sure that whatever the solution is can pass the house, can pass the senate. obviously that means 60 votes and get the president's signature. so i think in this case, senator mcconnell's really doing the best anyone could given his position, which is just to encourage the white house and democrats both in the senate and in the house to negotiate until there is something that's amenable to all parties. and again, i think the only such solution is that dhaaca plus border security compromise. i don't really see mitch mcconnell moving. part of the story here, steve, the country has grown so numb to these shutdown situations. you look at these financial markets. they're kind of ignoring it. i think most americans are ignoring the situation, obviously with the exception of the federal workers who are suffering through this. but the country is so sick of this shutd

but mitch mcconnell is not a strong leader of the united states senate. donald trump from shutting down the government because he would not stand up to the president of the united states as majority leaders have done many, many times in history including standing up against presidents of their own party. and then once the shutdown started mitch mcconnell did nothing to solve the problem. when the democrats then took over the house of representatives 12 days into the shutdown nancy pelosi immediately went to work to reopen the government and passed a variety of funding bills that would reopen the government. and mitch mcconnell was afraid, just afraid to bring up those bills when they were sent to the senate. because unlike any previous majority leader of the senate, he seems to live in fear of the president. and so the 800,000 federal workers who have missed their paychecks have missed them because of donald trump and very much because of mitch mcconnell. the former democratic leader of the senate harry reid said this about mitch mcconnell to "the new yor

mitch mcconnell did that. he did that because he had gotten an agreement from the president. >> before the shutdown. >> right. he had gotten an agreement from the president that he would sign it. then rush limbaugh and ann coulter got on their shows and, you know, gave him what for, and he then reversed course. he backed up the truck and said, no, i won't sign it. so mitch knew from the beginning this was going to have a bad ending. so mitch's goal was very simple, i don't want to be anywhere near this. so if you remember, he immediately started saying, this is about the democrats and the president. this is about the democrats and the president. and you got to give him this, the polling shows that only about 5% to 6% or 7% are blaming the republicans in congress. they're blaming trump. and what mitch mcconnell is doing is trying to protect his members, those that are up for election in 2020 in tough states. he doesn't want them to have to take this vote because he knows they're going to have a tough road to ru

mitch, do your job! mitch, do your job! mitch, do your job! brothers and sisters, i'd like to call forward a person that knows first hand what it is right now. he represents over 30,000 correctional officers throughout the federal prison system. they're forced to go to work in some of the most dangerous jobs in this country. they're working without pay. eric young, president of our council of prison locals. eric, come on down. >> good afternoon, brothers and sisters. our law enforcement officers all around the country today are showing up in our nation's 122 facilities. we work for some of society's worst of the worst, enemies foreign and domestic inside of our prisons. there are murderersen side of those prisoners similar to the one that murdered a two-tour war veteran jose rivera in the united states penitentiary in atwater, california. like the murderer who murdered eric williams at the height of his life and in pennsylvania, and also the narc owe drug dealers that plague our prisons, that murdered our beloved osvaldo aburrate as he went ho

president trump did not put mitch mcconnell in office. the people did.and he should be doing what is right, right now. and i call on mitch mcconnell and all of the republicans, senate and the house, to do their jobs l as the lady just said, yes, they should do their jobs. nobody should be held hostage because of their shenanigans or -- have the lowest rating ever, the house and, the senate. and president, and all of the republicans held the house for two years. the wall -- >> host: what federal agency did you work in? >> caller: transportation. >> host: did you ever go to a shutdown? >> caller: yes, i did. >> host: how did you deal with it? , i was in supervision at the time, and i was given a package two weeks before the shutdown and i was to put the employees out. >> host: what does that mean? >> caller: it means i went around to stations that employees were in, and put them out of their job. they blamed it on the employees but it was not their fault. the administration actually put the employees out. and called a strike. this is in new york city. >> h

hash tag where's mitch? >> according to an analysis by the "new york times" the 800,000 federal workers that hadn't been paid during the shutdown have missed on average more than $5,000 in wages so far. combined that's more than $200 million per work day and while the median federal salary is $77,000 about one fifth of the workers make less than 50,000. many said they have less than a month's worth of savings. here's how widespread the hardships have become for

whatever chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell agree on. but donald trump said that the last time that chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell agreed on a spending bill which they then passed through the united states senate unanimously in december. and after they did that and after donald trump promised that he was going to sign it, he changed his mind. after they passed the bill. donald trump said he was now opposed to it. and so today reporters pressed the president on exactly what he would be willing to accept. >> temporary spending without money for the wall? just to reopen -- >> i wouldn't be happy with it. i wouldn't be happy. but we have a lot of alternatives. >> wouldn't be happy with it? wouldn't be happy with it? he didn't say he would veto it. that's what he's supposed to say if he's going to veto it. with a normal president wouldn't be happy with it means he wouldn't sign it. but this is donald trump, so no one has any idea what he means. here is one of the alternatives for reopening the government, whatever that means, that the pres

and you described him as a clear way out of this and it is for mitch mcconnell to allow a vote.scott, i federal worker. go ahead. i would like to provide my opinion on the blame. first of all, it's not one party. it's all the politicians are to blame. there is that they are and voted in the public office to negotiate on behalf of the constituents. they are not doing that. present obama ran and one office based on change. also got intop office based on change. america wants change. they want politicians that will provide them the information they needed. another thing, congress, they failed their job with three continuing resolutions. the did not fund the government when they should have read october is a new fiscal year and congress didn't do it then. they weren't negotiating back then. they are failing. another point i would like to mention is federal employees, we can file for unemployment of we so need to. because we are in a furlough status. host: is that some thing you are recommending employees do? yes, we are. we are recommending unemployment eligibility varies by state.

everyone's like where is mitch mcconnell?isten, you made robby mook cough because he can't believe what you're saying about mitch mcconnell. >> we can all agree whether you agree with his tactics or his politics or not, and by the way, we can all also agree as a republican he is supporting a republican president and he's doing it in a way that is most effective. a democrat leader of the senate would do the same thing for a democratic president. >> what say you, robbie? >> i completely disagree. we're celebrating right now the absolute void of morality in the senate. we're celebrating a man who killed the rightful nominee to the supreme court from barack obama. we're celebrating a man who has absolutely abdicated the duty of the united states senate. you want to change this shutdown? you want to end this shutdown? the house has passed a bill. when the house passes a bill for appropriations, the senate passes their own bill, they can amend it, they can change it. the two chambers come together, come to an agreement and send a b

. >> here's the problem for mitch mcconnell. if you remember, just before the shutdown started, mitch mcconnell and the republicans and the senate got what they thought was a go-ahead from the white house that you put through a continuing resolution to fund all of the government until february and the president will sign it and so the house overwhelmingly passed it. i think they got 80 something votes. republicans and democrats went along with that. then the president got hammered by right-wing talk radio, by the house freedom caucus. he switched his mind and said, no, i won't go for that. i'm going to insist on the $5.6. i won't see the continuing resolution. and mcconnell and the senate republicans felt burned by that. is a they basically said and if you listen to what mcconnell says, he's very precise in his language, he said i'm not going to put anything to the floor for a vote unless i know it has the support of house democrats and the president will sign it. so he's not going to be in another situation where he goes out an

and mitch mcconnell does not put it on the floor for practice. it was passed and then the president reneged and the democrats have using that fact against the republicans throughout the negotiations, and as things stand right now, and again, the republicans are looking down the barrel of the vote that is similar the to o t they have taken, mitch mcconnell does not want to take a vote and at the same time not get crosswise with the president. and so it is worth remembering that the context of all of this will change, because the democrats don't have to protect red state senators anymore, because the math for 2020 revolving around protecting the republican senators in places like maine and colorado and now all of the sudden a crack in the armour here, and the democrats will continue the apply the pressure no the president, and to mitch mcconnell to move these things forward to a vote and separate the issue of the wall from the rest of government funding. that is what we will continue to see. the other thing that i am watching for today, the white h

we will also present in a bill, the bill that mitch mcconnell did for a continued resolution for the homeland security bill until february 8, using his exact date. we have given the republicans a chance to take yes for an answer. we have taken their proposals on houseded by any bipartisan amendment, but just staying true to what the senate has already done. our question to the president and to the republicans is, why don't you accept what you have already done to open up government, and that enables us to have 30 days to negotiate for border security? democrats have been committed to protecting our borders, it is the oath of office we take to protect and defend. it has been very important to us, and we have committed resources to it when we were in the majority, and we will continue to do so. >> they are going to let us each speak, please. > i yield to the senator thank you. >> thank you. so the bottom line is very simple. we asked the president to support the bills that we support that would open up a government. we asked him to give us one good reason. i asked him directly. i said,

mitch mcconnell and donald trump.nd let me tell you something, lawrence, the wall they should be worried about is not a the wall at the south border, but wall street where we had another gigantic drop today in where the last thing that's underpinning trump's survival here, which is strong economic results is starting to move towards recession. if that turns, it's a collapse for trump, a collapse for republicans on capitol hill. >> now, david jolly, consider mitt romney who has a former governor -- i know governors when they're out there in the country and 50 states they shake their heads, they cannot believe that it ever happens because it basically can't really happen in a state government. so here's mitt romney facing his first government shutdown, and what does he do about it? and one of the first things he's going to read about it is his colleague western senator cory gardener, republican senator like mitt romney from utah saying i don't think shutting down the government is ever the right answer. if mitt romney j

but it's clear that republicans, including mitch mcconnell, who's largely stayed behind the scenes, as he usually does, but has not put anything on the floor that would reopen the government after the house has passed bill after bill that would do just that. he felt it was time to change the dynamic. and after a couple of days of huddling with vice president pence and the president's son-in-law, jared kushner, they came out -- the president came out, made this statement speaking in sort of the idiom of the traditional white house, direct to camera from the diplomatic room with all the trappings and solemn circumstance of the white house itself. it did not appear to work, at least initially, although this is going to play out over a couple of days when we see what the larger public reaction is. mitch mcconnell acting in concert with the president, hitting send on a statement as soon as the president finished that said in part "everyone has made their point now. it is time to make a law. i intend to move this legislation this week." the way the senate works, alex, it's not that easy. he

the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell earlier today. we will let you hear what he had to say in a moment as he talked about the dispute between democrats and republicans over spending bills, but first, terry from winston-salem, north carolina. caller: good evening, sir. my big beef with the congress on both sides, because i am republican, but it seems like our senators forget they are americans, first or they should be. i merrily, they seem to be republican or democrat and did they look for what the party is fishing for. they need to realize they are americans. our senators need to stand up against mr. trump. is pulling things and the republicans will not hold him back because he is republican. i have a big problem with that. life goes.ay we are americans first, then politicians. steve: how did both sides get to that point? caller: i'm not really sure. i wish i knew. once upon a time, i am 70 years old, they disagreed on points but they could discuss problems and work through it. they can't seem to do it now. will not call a vote on som

john, thank you very mitch for that reality check. >>> u.s. been given hours to get out of venezuela. the white house decision that has the south america country cutting ties next. liberty mutual accident forgiveness means they won't hike your rates over one mistake. see, liberty mutual doesn't hold grudges. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. switch and you could save $782 on home and auto insurance. call for a free quote today. liberty mutual insurance. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ >>> u.s. diplomats in venezuela have less than 72 hours to leave the country. president maduro ordering them o out. we have more with the latest developments. what's happening? >> reporter: today is the day after the historical moments we have lived through here yesterday. we saw history in front of our eyes when the president of parliament swore himself in. congress is right now controlled by the anti-maduro position. right now two are claiming to be president of venezuela. the

it is mitch mcconnell's shutdown now. mitch mcconnell has the power to take up those house bills that would reopen those government departments and bring them to a vote. those bills would easily pass the senate if mitch mcconnell would bring them to a vote in the senate. so every federal worker in kentucky tonight out of work including the 5,000 irs workers in kentucky trying to provide for their families have mitch mcconnell to blame for the financial struggle they find themselves in tonight. now, maybe mitch mcconnell just can't relate because like donald trump, not as rich as donald trump maybe, but mitch mcconnell is a very, very rich man. and mitch mcconnell like all republicans, publicly at least, hates the irs. but does he hate the irs workers who live in kentucky? republicans love to hate the irs publicly. but on a per dollar basis irs workers are the most valuable workers in america. they return a giant profit on their salaries to the united states treasury every year. and they do it in the processing centers in

mitch mcconnell to allow a senate vote to open the government.de tensions cast a cloud over davos. business leaders ring the alarm over uncertainty in u.s.-china trade talks. trump'sin drain, why policies are hurting higher education and sending talent to other countries. mcconnell,p, mitch who had said the senate would not vote on any government funding legislation unless the , appears agreed to it to have changed his strategy and has scheduled a vote on thursday for democratic-backed legislation that would fund the government through february 8. marty schenker joins us now. this is coming from the new york times. we have got more detail. what is your read? has saidmcconnell repeatedly that he will not bring this bill to the floor of the senate that the president won't sign. now that he has reached an agreement with chuck schumer to have a bill voted on that would fund the government, re-open the ,overnment, until february 8 seemed to contradict that. chuck schumer has repeatedly said the senate would pass a now,ghtforward bill, and apparently,

mcconnell, they'd be in that struggle with mitch mcconnell to actually allow that vote toto occur. and that's why i thought senator schumer's very clear outline of here's how we can move forward was so simple and important, easy to follow. >> what do you think that mitch mcconnell will do here,mi lawrence? i mean,el mcconnell is relativel good at getting things to work out the way het wants them to. he has not necessarily committed himself ones policy one way or t other. he said he'll only bring up something thatly the president will sign andin he doesn't want any political stunts. it's all sort of -- sort of process talk. what do you think isor actually going to happenat here? because presumably, mcconnell is not as comfortable as the president with the ideaas of a shutdown that goes on for years. >> well,n mitch mcconnell said, emphatically, there would be no shutdown. so everyone knows that mitch mcconnell doesn't want a shutdown and theseow are the situations, rachel, in which for a senate leader it might be more important what he doesn't do. ises mitch mcconnell working the ph

>> objection. >> objection is heard. >> that objection was from mitch mcconnell. huh? pretty exciting stuff. could you just feel the tension in the room? could you feel everybody's anxiety, what's going to happen? i'm telling you, every retired senate parliamentarian sitting at home watching that on c-span today was on the edge of his seat. the republican minority leader of the house, kevin mccarthy, who was hoping to be riding in the speaker of the house's plane this year, today said he was shocked, just shocked that the speaker would even consider leaving the country during a government shutdown, but he apparently forgot to be shocked when the president of the united states left the country after he started the shutdown. >> i'm just shocked she'd even think that she would leave the country. why would you leave the country with government shut down and you're speaker of the house? why would you even think -- >> the president left the -- >> because nancy pelosi was where at the time when he went to iraq to visit the troops? i think she was in hawaii. >> being speaker o

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the other person to end the shutdown is mitch mcconnell because he has the power. he won't do it.veryone should be asking why aren't you going to use the power you had no problems to force $1.5 trillion tax cut for the richest people in our country and basically screwing the middle class, why don't you do it? because the president won't sign it. there is thing called over riding the veto. chris, you have a lot of people that watch your show all over the country. i would say to every one of your viewers who live in districts represented by republican senators, they should call up their senators and say go and tell mitch mcconnell to do his job, bring these bills on the floor because we already in the senate passed these last year and make sure that everyone gets paid. he won't do it. so it's very clear to me who can end this shutdown. i do not immoral, makes no distinction between right or wrong or doesn't care. i won't rely on this guy but mitch mcconnell can do something about this. >> there seems to be, the president has been sort of, you know, running this is the flag pole mayb

so where's mitch? >> plus the president's pick for attorney general caught peddling debunked security theories. sont republicans are standing with the president in rolling a back russian sanctions. and as the suffering drags on >> from what we've been told they have no problem evicting us as w soon as they can.ha >> i've been advising the president whether in twitter, columns conversations that you're not allowed to know about. he is dead in the water if he doesn't build that wall. >> good evening from new york. nancy pelosi sent a message to the president of the united states today. until you reopen the government you are not welcome in my housen suggesting he reschedule his state of the union that been set for january 29th until some time after the government's open. alternatively he could submit it in writing or speak from the oval office. she said the security burden would be too great in light of t president trump's decision to shut down the government. >> we would have the president of the united

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is mitch going to fall for it? no.nd confirms judges and adds senate seats and cuts taxes. >> juan: why do you call him that? >> jesse: i say it with love and i think it was a nickname given to him by one of its primary opponents. >> dana: was the west virginia primary opponent that was then summarily handled. >> juan: it's totally wrong to perpetuate such a nasty name. >> jesse: >> greg: cocaine mite of the great nicknames ever. i wish my nickname was cocaine greg. >> jesse: yours is not quell greg. >> dana: democrats turning to mitch mcconnell as their savior? >> greg: is that what she meant by "running train?" i don't think she knew what that meant. aoc is vying to be the democratic parties trump. i said this months ago. we help her because we can't help ourselves. it's not our fault. she feeds us so much -- so many delicious segments. rasmussen had out hypothetical poll that she is neck and neck with drum. it's because politicians are so boring and crusty that any deviation is delicious. >> jesse: rasmussen, you ar

mitch mcconnell is in a position to stop this.oking at his shoes, he does his obligatory speech on the floor everybody morning. he likes the fact that so much of the blame is being put on trump and a very smart amount being put on the professional -- he cares about one thing, protecting his members up for election this time. tillis, all of those senators up in 2020 -- >> susan collins. >> especially the erosion among white male, non-college educated, which has been trump's go-to. when you look at those numbers, they feel bad in the senate. so they are going to have to put pressure on mcconnell. if mcconnell wants to end this, he can end it today. all you is to do realize if republicans wanted to do this, they've had two years to do it. they've been in charge. they've been in charge of the house, the senate and the presidency and they didn't do squat on the wall. that's because they don't want the wall. so now this is all political kobuki. my colleagues are afraid of the base. but now when you see the poll numbers move, i think you

with mitch mcconnell out of the room, does that affect it? >> he is out of the room but you have a president trump that you really don't know what he's thinking from moment to moment. this morning's tweet before his staff went in to meet with the democrats through a wrench, once again, in the process. if you don't know the negotiating list and you don't know what their position is, how will you be able to come to a solution. speaker pelosi, leader mcconnell, leader schumer and leader mccarther could come up with a solution. >> they basically already did. >> exactly. >> they can do it again. >> and they did it when democrats were in the minority in the house. but this president doesn't know what he wants. the wall has become a symbol, it has become his fixation on getting a victory against democrats and he believes this is the only time. it's dragging out. >> laura, what is your take on the political imperatives that will emerge from the country at large? we know most of the federal employees affected don't actually live in the d.c. area, they

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the president said to mitch mcconnell, i'll sign this bill. mitch mcconnell signed a bill.e sent it to the house. we were prepared to vote for that bill but the republicans wanted to shut down the government. we need to open up government and then negotiate. not the other way around. we're prepared to negotiate. we're prepared to have the homeland security bill approved for a short term so that we have to negotiate. >> is an impeachment process inevitable? >> no, i don't think an impeachment process is inevitable. and that's not what we're focused on. we're focused on bills. we have to focus on getting the government open. that's our primary first responsibility. >> are impeachment talks a distraction? >> i think the impeachment talks are a distraction. we'll have to see what the mueller report says. nancy and i both said that. we voted that way on the floor of the house of representatives. what we want to do is concentrate on our substantive agenda. we want to make sure that we get some reforms done, on redistricting, on campaign finance reform, on voting rights. we want t

i do sort of agree with ron johnson when he said to mitch mcconnell, this is really on you, mitch. >> do you think we'll be covering a state of the union next tuesday night? >> i think it's not impossible. i think this really could -- schumer and mcconnell could come to a deal. they could get some border security money, not the wall, just tell the president we're going to do this. nancy pelosi can say, mr. president, if you sign this deal we've come to on monday, you can speak to the house tuesday. the president would love the idea of giving the state of the union. i think this is maybe a long shot. i think it could be coming to an end faster now than people think. i've thought that for the last two weeks and i've been wrong. i just feel like the genuine humiliation of what's happening is i think beginning to get to republican senators who have swallowed a lot of humiliation over the last two years, but this is them. they could stop it. >> i don't say this often enough, it's always a pleasure to have you here with us. we greatly appreciate it. bill kristol with us tonight. >>> coming

the other is mitch mcconnell. at any moment in time mitch mcconnell can just say, i've had enough of this and i'll let it go to the floor and i will likely get enough votes to override a presidential veto and we'll be done with this. mitch mcconnell has notably stayed very far away from the debate. what i thought was the most interesting element today was not trump getting up and walking out on nancy pelosi, i thought it was mitch mcconnell yet again not going out with republicans after that confrontation to talk to the cameras because he really clearly wants no part of this negotiation. >> that is exactly what i was seeing in those -- when they website o went out to the cameras afterwards, no mitch mcconnell. that's what i was seeing there. john heilemann, sam is so right about how important that is. mcconnell has been very careful in his language. people are reporting to have said -- to say repeatedly he will not bring up a bill unless. he's not saying that. he's saying things like it's not realistic to bring up

i think mitch mcconnell is thinking of his own prospect.e's fearful of a primary in kentucky in his race from the right. >> how bad was that have to get? >> i think they should do their jobs and not think about the next election, i live in fantasy world. >> it is not that he has trouble fund raising for his next election. the idea that he's doing this because he really fears for the primaries. i think he's teaching donald trump a lesson as well about how this is working. i think going back to my original point, he just need to stop. this is happening because he refused to do his job. >> let's listen to members of the administration and donald trump's family talk about the shutdown. mr. secretary, there are reports that some federal workers are going to homeless shelters to get food. >> i know they are, i don't understand they are. there is no reason why should be able to get something against it. >> okay. in terms of the workers coming to work and not getting paid, what will you say to them? >>> it is not fair to you and we all get that. th