mitch mcconnell himself said that. the senators have decided to hang their hat on jurisdictional grounds. >> it was not my intention to come to this press availability no matter how tempting it would be to sing the praises of her house managers. and on behalf of my grandchildren who do great hope and inspiration we cannot be powder and that clarity that you presented and again the you have been to so many people. so when we recruit candidates to run for office or see them self recruiting, we always say i be the president of my university or the head of my hospital. but we don't learn without options and that's why we look to run because you have options that should not be a reason for you not to run. so we saw a cowardly group of republicans apparently have no options because they were afraid to defend their job and respect the institution of which they serve. but that in so many bad ways of one even go into and that they were not respect their institute that is a president of the senate. haying mike pence was the chan

mcconnell mitch mcconnell who won this distinguished. group of house managers were gathered on january 15th to deliver the articles of impeachment could not were told it could not be received because mitch mcconnell had to shut down the senate and was going to keep it shut down until right until the inauguration so for him to get out there and make this indictment against the president and then say but i can't i can't vote for it because it's after the fact that's fact that he established the fact that he established that it could not be delivered before the inauguration now when you think about january 6th between january 6th and 323 aren't talking about just under 2 weeks a day under 2 weeks so. the big lies as stop the steal the big law that you talked about stop the steel was the momentum for getting these people there on the 6 they honestly believe for whatever reason maybe too much social media whatever watch social media that movie. why were they were thinking that that was true that the lection was not legitimate whatever the rea

mitch mcconnell himself said that. we senators have decided to hang our hats on jurisdictional grounds which are not raised on evidence, which are not a stone the fact and they will have to be judged for that. we have done our duty for the american people. >> let me introduced speaker pelosi and i will come to you next. >> it had not been my intention to come to this press availability however tempting it would be to sing the praises of our house managers. on behalf of not only of the house of representatives, on behalf of the american people and i have to save personally on behalf of my grandchildren you give great hope and inspiration from each and every one of you. i could not be prouder of your patriotic presentations, the clarity in which you presented and again the inspiration that you have been to so many people. so i thank you for that. it reminds me that when we recruit candidates to run for office and when we see them self precluding we always say well i could be the president of my university or the head of

and will he and mitch mcconnell have a fight? mitch mcconnell went through this a few years back over tea party nominees. this ups the stakes to go after a former president who, we know, has lost power in washington. his legacy is indelablindeliabl stained. will trump go quietly or try to pick and get involved in every fight? today he tells us he wants to fight. wolf, that's a problem for the party, which would prefer to org organize, get ready for 2022, focus on opposing the biden agenda at key points, cooperating in other points. guess what, they have a trump problem. it's not going anywhere. >> you're absolutely right. dana, mcconnell has been trying to have it both ways, voting to acquit trump. at the same time he has a moral responsibility. the former president, for the capitol attack. clearly either he's with trump or against trump, right? >> well, he is in never, neverland right now, which is an interesting place to be when you are the effective leader of your party right now. he's the highest ranking elected republican on

biden's cabinet and any legislative efforts so it was a game of chicken which senate minority leader mitch mcconnell is excellent at and it seems that the republicans won and how much of that complicate things i suppose the timing of all of this when president joe biden has cabinet appointments to deal with the coronavirus relief package it's a packed legislative agenda that was a need to expedite the process has that at home full or counterproductive in some way. absolutely there was this need to do other things and president biden has made clear that he wants to move on he didn't stand in the way of this but he also wasn't enthusiastic a big supporter of it he doesn't want his presidency to be all about donald trump so he would like to move on to talk about things like coronavirus and the economy and there are many of his nominees who are still sitting without their confirmation hearings and that's a important part of moving forward so i think that those are our major issues of course we will hear president trump on tao diddly gloat about this and the fact that the party now belongs to p

and an extraordinary post verdict attack party leader mitch mcconnell says trump is responsible for the assault on capitol hill. there's no question about. their present troubles practically. and morally responsible. for provoking. also had me at most military rulers to give themselves more power as as they face intensifying anger over last week's. donald trump says his political movement has only just begun after being acquitted by the u.s. senate in his 2nd impeachment trial in 12 months democrats fell 10 votes short of a conviction as fellow republicans largely swung behind the former president to shield him from responsibility for the deadly capitol hill riots on january 6th the . $57.00 days for ease 3. 2 thirds of the senators present not having been very guilty the judges that responded john trump former president states is not guilty as charged in articles of impeachment reacting almost immediately via a statement trump sank his legal team and hinted at plans for the future saying he has much to share in the months ahead leading republican senator mitch mcconnell was among those

there are plenty of mitch mcconnell critics who say mitch mcconnell had his chance to break free fromin this republican party and he missed his chance. but having said all that erin, one of the things i think overlooking in that statement from donald trump is that he engages in a good bit of georgia trutherrism. >> yep. >> reporter: he tries to blame mitch mcconnell for what happened in georgia and not himself. you talk to people even inside the trump campaign or what is left of the trump campaign, the president's current team of advisers, aides and associates and so on, they will tell you that donald trump is largely responsible for what happened in georgia. so it's donald trump, alone, who feels that way. but make no mistake, this statement that trump put out, i talked to an ad advisor earlier this evening who said he had no choice but to make that kind of response. mitch mcconnell's op-ed in the "wall street journal" required a response and donald trump gave one. i think we will see much more of this to come. this is a sneak preview of coming attractions, no question about it. >> c

mitch mcconnell made it clear, i don't want these witnesses. the democrats got the votes to call the witnesses. so they won that round. but mcconnell then signaled, if you proceed with this plan, i will wreak havoc in the senate and the democrats then yielded to him. it wasn't like they got nothing in return. they got the mcconnell speech and they got the permission to go ahead and all of that happened, i don't think we take -- if we get sort of reports from inside a sealed room, we think that's real. when it happens in front of us, with people sort of signaling and winking, we don't take it as real. but there was a tradeoff. no witnesses. mcconnell's speech. and permission for this covid package to go ahead and in a way with probably less obstruction than you've seen at any time since the first months of the obama administration. >> well, we'll see how much obstruction we get when they actually get to the bill. john heilemann, david frum, thank you, both, for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> take care. >>> coming up,

that was mitch mcconnell's voice. papers to walk them over and it was mitch mcconnell who already called the senate into recess. it on him. how can he possibly say, well, man, we couldn't do it. that was his doing. >> it a fair question, stephanie. and mcconnell did not say if he would have found trump guilty on the charges were he still president. so he was a little vague on that point. what the mcconnell aides i talked to say is that he believed in the week or so that the senate had before president donald trump was going to leave office and the time that the house impeached that the senate could not conclude a trial of him at the time. but i will point out the vote on constitutionality was tuesday. a majority of the senate ruled that it was constitutional to try the president. the only vote today was guilty or not guilty. that was the decision by mcconnell and other republican senators to say he is not guilty, however they wanted to justify it. >> you can listen to what he says and watch what he does and mitch mcco

i would like to see mitch mcconnell do it because mitch mcconnell's the person that backed presidentrump in two elections and acquitted him twice. so no wonder trump and the rest of the maga media universe is mad at mitch mcconnell because it seems like a betrayal. i just don't know -- yes, i want people to fight trump and trumpism, but we need to be very clear about what we're fighting. the substance of donald trump's long release today was not about calling mitch mcconnell nasty names. he was setting up a litmus test for the 2022 primaries, which revolves around the big election lie. he is laying the groundwork now, and i guarantee you that will be the litmus test for trump's support in 2022. who won the election? donald trump? was it a fair election, or was it rigged? these are not questions that many republicans can answer clearly yes or no, biden or trump, fair or rigged. that deeply concerns me. and part of the reason that is so ingrained into the electorate on the republican side is because people like mitch mcconnell went along with it for so long. and even today while mitch

why is mitch mcconnell speaking out about this now?an it's obvious this thing is taking on a life of its own. it's obvious that some in the republican party want to go die on this hill. and i think he's sending up an urgent warning that we can't be a national governing party, we can't be a majority party, we can't even be competitive if we're going to be the party of, you know, jewish space lasers and that 9/11 didn't happen and all the conspiracy theories that he mentioned that marjorie taylor greene has expressed interest in. so i think mcconnell is trying to warn republicans we cannot go down this road if we want to be competitive in the future. i mean, the reality is, don, if she didn't have a laptop and a video camera, she'd have a sandwich board on a street corner. what she is saying is not even within the realm of what you and i and ana to consider normal american political rhetoric. we're talking about living in a completely different crazy, scary reality. i hope folks heed mitch mcconnell's warning because i think he's right.

who again, mitch mcconnell even as he was going to court, donald trump, mitch mcconnell essentially said and we saw how this ended. listen, i don't think mitch mcconnell deserves any praise, any pat on the back for picking on marjorie taylor greene who certainly deserves criticism, but it's a much larger problem than marjorie taylor greene. we'll see what kevin mccarthy does, but we already know what he did do which was not back her opponent, put her on this committee obviously as well and he's dragging his feet at this point, right? everything we know about marjorie taylor greene and some of the things she said is out there. a lot of stuff she said is horribly offensive, racist as well. and so, kevin mccarthy has to have a meeting to discuss what the options are rather than acting swiftly to deal with her. so i think, you know, it's a little too late not only for mitch mcconnell but kevin mccarthy as well to reign in parts of the party that had been out there for years and years and years. and had been allowed to ma it's a size, to continue this cancer metaphor that mitch mcconnell brin

mitch mcconnell with bret baier. could you ask mitch mcconnell a question for us? i want to get his answer on mr. potato head going genderless? i want to see what he thinks about that, ask him that. >> bret: what happened to mrs. potato head, right? [laughter] she now also genderless? >> greg: she disappeared on a hiking trip. to be when you have any other questions for senator mcconnell? >> jesse: you don't like the genderless thing? >> bret: i think it's okay. anything else? >> bret: cuomo, i'd ask him about cuomo. >> bret: okay. we will see if we can get there. good evening, welcome to washington i'm bret baier, breaking tonight in a few minutes i will speak exclusively with senator minority leader mitch mcconnell in his first television interview since december and comes on the date the biden administration civil rights a vaccination milestone and the massive stimulus package. fox team coverage peter doocy, leads us off on the north line. good evening. >> i asked president biden whatever happened to his promise from seven weeks ago that relief checks were going

this means everything to mitch mcconnell.the tea party days in 2010, republican party nominated some really weak candidates, christine o'donnell, sharon angle, and they lost. mcconnell took it really hard. he is absolutely furious at trump over losing the senate and to georgia runoffs. basically it's a mcconnell-trump battle for 2022. >> bret: it will be the story. stand by, up next, state democrats turn on democratic governor andrew cuomo in new york. with us. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it with hassle-free claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started. because doing right by our members, that's what's right. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. ♪ usaa ♪ i'm a performer. we're made for. always have been. and always will be. never letting anything get in my way. not the doubts, distractions, or voice in my head. and certainly not arthritis. voltaren provides powerful arthritis pain relief to help me keep moving. and it can help you too. feel the joy of

professor, mitch mcconnell— long trial. professor, mitch mcconnell said _ long trial.rial. professor, mitch - mcconnell said that trump used the 74 million people who voted for him as a human shield against criticism. there is nevertheless a lot of anger among rank—and—file republicans, not in washington, people who did vote for president trump who do see this as political theatre and have seen democrats out to get him for the last four years, where does this leave then? is there any hope for unity and has this child made that more difficult? it unity and has this child made that more difficult?— more difficult? it should not. it ma . i more difficult? it should not. it mav- i could — more difficult? it should not. it may. i could not— more difficult? it should not. it may. i could not disagree - more difficult? it should not. it may. i could not disagree more more difficult? it should not. it - may. i could not disagree more with my colleague who said that claims that the constitution bar trying private citizens, utterly false. nothing in the constitution or nats, i t

oh, senator franken, explain mitch mcconnell to us.ump on a dime and now he's trying to claim that what he did somehow vindicated the constitution. please make it make sense. >> well, i served with mitch for about nine years. i didn't talk to him a lot, but he had a very good speechwriter. and so when i would talk to him, it would be after he gave a really good speech on like a commemoration of 9/11 or at a spouse dinner or something. everyone is going up saying i really liked your speech last night. he said, well, you can't go wrong when you quote -- and i just took a chance and said, you know, i really like your speeches better that aren't in the service of evil. and he said i like the evil ones better. and i thought, gosh, he's got a good sense of humor, i didn't realize that. and no, he meant that. he's a pretty cynical guy. i mean that's who he is. and that speech, of course, i think as you indicated, that was targeted at corporate donors who after january 6th abandoned him and also probably for the midterms to target moderate, yo

mitch mcconnell was much to credit for -- mitch mcconnell working with donald trump did a -- of a job. they are now at each other's throat. i am more worried about 2022 the and i ever been. president trump is the most consequential republican in the party. if mitch mcconnell doesn't understand that, he is missing a lot. but my beef is not with mitch mcconnell, because we have the same policy views. my beef is that we need to knock this off. kevin mccarthy is the leader of the house republicans. he has taken a different approach to president trump. i would advise senator mcconnell to do that as president trump. you own the republican party, my friend. but 55% of the people wanted you impeached and removed. you are the hope of the future of conservatives, but we've got to make some changes to get back to the white house in 2024 and have the republican majority in the senate in the house in 20.2. i believe that democrats are doing all they can to help us. we just need to help ourselves. >> sean: the establishment wing of the republican party, if you can look at it through the lincoln pro

goes right after mitch mcconnell.ser to the former president, the op-ed in "the wall street journal" regarding the former president required a response. that's why we put it up on the screen. it's fairly personal which should not come as a surprise. mitch is a dauer, sullen and unsmiling political hack and if republican senators are going to stay with him they will not win again. now, we were told that there were other personal comments that the president wanted to make about mcconnell's chins and so on, and, you know, i talked to jason miller about this. he said, no, that's not the case. it was not supposed to be that personal although it may have been a more heated response that they were initially contemplating in terms of that statement that the president put out. the other thing we should point out, brooke, is that when trump made some comments on fox news earlier today, he took yet another veiled shot at mitch mcconnell and essentially said, well, if republicans could fight as hard as democrats when it comes to

mitch mcconnell in many ways kind of did that.hy would middle-aged, middle class americans look to lynch the vice president, for example? i want to get your take on the other side. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> they're saying "hang mike pence." what struck you about this mob and the makeup of it compared to other extremist groups? >> as you voted, it's easy to make the assumption that bad people do bad things. but the reality is that perfectly good people can do bad things when they are in particular situations. and the events in washington on january 6th hadm markings in psychology we know lead people, especially in group settings, to behave really poorly. >> what markings? >> group setting. there is lots of evidence throughout history that many people in groups get sort of caught up in what we call a mob mentality. and they do and say things that they would never dream of doing if they're alone. another key factor is when people feel hidden in some ways, when they are wearing costumes, when they are wearing hoods, when

when we heard mitch mcconnell and we called out his hypocrisy. but said in his speech that the former president is quote still liable for everything he did and that he hasn't been held to account yet. that's the big question. what is trump's legal exposure for january 6th at this point? >> so, i think that's a real question. you know, you've been having all the arguments with respect to the senate trial and the procedures and whether the rules of evidence apply and due process and elements. and there are no rules in the senate. if the doj was thinking about bringing charges with respect to the january 6th insurrection, they're going to have to do a lot more than what the house managers did. notwithstanding the fact that the house managers did a terrific job. you're not revolving your case by bringing in newspaper articles or by using hearsay or making certain kinds of arguments of a political nature. that can't happen in federal court and the doj wouldn't authorize that. it's more of an uphill battle even though the trial in the senate for politi

and mitch mcconnell, in effect -- >> he said that. i mean, mitch mcconnell said it. >> absolutely.ot past his vote against conviction, then he said, by the way, i agree with everything. i just have this technicality that we need observe. and that's why it went down. well, that just not a satisfying solution. it's not a satisfying solution. we have still -- we haven't held anybody as a ring leader for this whole assault on the capitol. that is not a satisfying resolution. so, i don't think this will go down in history as a terrific moment of bipartisanship. i think we are still struggling to work together across party lines. this country is still stuck in the political leaders can't get big things done together. >> yeah, and you're seeing -- you're already seeing some of the republicans like senator cassidy get censured or condemned by the local republicans in their states for their vote. norm eisen, david gergen, thank you both for coming on, sharing your wisdom, your experience, your perspective. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> thank you, pamela. >>> and your breaking news contin

mitch mcconnell did himself said that. these senators decided to hang their hat jurisdictional grounds not based in evidence, which on it based on the facts and they will have to be judged for that. we have done our duty to the american people. [inaudible] >> let me traduce speaker pelosi. >> it was not my intention to come to the availability, as tempting as it would be to sing the praises of our house managers. on behalf not only of the house of representatives on behalf of the american people. i have to say personally on behalf of my grandchildren and great hope and inspiration from each and every one of you, we could not be prouder of your patriotic presentation, clarity in which you present it and again, the inspiration you have been to so many people. i thank you for that. when i see all of them, it reminds me when we recruit candidates to run for office or seen themselves recruiting, we always say well, i could be the president of my university or i could be the head of my hospital or this or that. i have to think a

what mitch mcconnell did yesterday was shameless. you can't sit there and make this comment that donald trump was responsible for what happened on january 6th just after you voted to acquitim. and you did it on this weird little technicality that you yourself created. it is absurd. i think mcconnell lost his

>> let's walk through what mitch mcconnell disappeared mitch mcconnell delay the trial, specificallyefused to begin a trial until donald trump left office, and then got up and said today the only reason he's not convicting him is because the trial did not begin until donald trump left office, which was mitch mcconnell's doing. mcconnell i thought today was desperately searching for someone, any to do what he lacked the courage to do, a civil suit, a criminal investigation, any kind of other legal activity that would accept the responsibility that he shirked to take a clear stand against trump, and he truly believes i believe that trump was responsible for the mop on the capitol. i mean, they want the advantages of, you know, the energy that he inspires among his base. they don't want the downside of all the things that he does delineate traditionally white, voters and at this point, it may be too late to reverse the inroads, beachhead on extremists making it on the party especially after these back to back decisions on taylor greene and trump in the last couple of weeks. >> it is int

where was mitch? where was john thune? m.i.a. now republicans, you'll decide the direction of your party and which way it takes. are you going to fight somebody that wants to drain the swamp or do you want to keep this mob? now, keep in mind, democrats frequently endure in party struggles. now republicans are facing one of their own. also keep in mind, donald trump rose to power with the support of americans from both parties that were disillusioned with the entire system. those voters now, they are notlu going away. in fact, they seem more energized than ever before. look at this gallup poll, aa whopping 62% of americans want a third party. what does this mean? as we go forward politically in the country, myself, i'm a registered conservative. my agenda is simple, and it has been pretty consistent throughout my career. i maybe have become a little more the libertarian over thehe years. i believe in liberty, i believe in freedom. less regulation and lower taxes so we can build massive manufacturing centers. i believe in law, orde

but mitch mcconnell enabled that mob.dies line it up with far right parties that are part of india and erduwan. it was a vote for the philosophy of politics that says that violence is an acceptable recourse to solve your problems which goes back to fascism in the age of military coups. this was a coup attempt. election results become -- that you don't like become just another, you know, informs point to be denied and fabricated, replaced with the information you need to stay in office. so this is -- this is -- all of it is very indicative of the g.o.p. having the authoritarian political culture. >> neil, even some of the republican senators who voted to acquit conceded that house managers did a good job making their case, that they took us through the day. they laid out the time line leading up to that day for a couple of months. they described the big lie and showed a pattern of inciting violence from president trump. yet, those senators hid behind a jurisdiction argument to vote to acquit. is there any basis for that? w

and he also takes at mitch mcconnell, the same mitch mcconnell he's been in a fight with over the last days. here is a bit of what trump had to say earlier today on fox. >> i think that we won substantially. and rush thought we won. and he thought it was over at 10:00, 10:30, it was over. and a lot of other people feel that way too. but rush felt that way strongly. and many people do. many professionals do. and i don't think that could have happened to a democrat. you would have had riots going all over the place if that happened to a democrat. we don't have the same support at certain levels of the republican system. but we are great people as republicans. and he was furious at it and many people are furious. you don't know how angry this country is. >> we should point out obviously it is false what former president is saying there about the election. but a few things we should point out, one is i talked to a trump adviser who said that donald trump will not only be on fox news earlier today, he will be on fox later on this evening. he will be on the other conservative tv sites out th

. >> mitch mcconnell votes to acquit. but -- >> former president trump's actions preceding the riot were a disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty. >> the most bipartisan impeachment vote in u.s. history. >> he incited that mob. he lit the match. come on. get real. we know that this is what happened. >> this impeachment is completely divorced from the facts, the evidence, and the interest of the american people. >> but the former president's party stands by their man. >> i think most republicans found the presentation by the house managers offensive and absurd. >> how closely has the gop now tied itself to mr. trump and his behavior. my guests this morning, the top democratic impeachment manager, jamie raskin, republican governor larry hogan of maryland, and democratic whip, senator dick durbin of illinois. plus, the cdc announces new guidelines on opening schools and the biden administration secures 200 million more vaccine doses. i'll talk to the new director of the cdc, rochelle walensky. joining me for insight an

senate ma minor leader mitch mcconnell was not one of them. but in a head-scratching floor speech, he nevertheless excoriated the former president for his actions on january 6th and said trump is responsible for the violence that occurred. >> president trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. no question about it. a mob was assaulting the capitol in his name. these criminals were carrying his banners. hanging his flags. and screaming their loyalty to him. it was obvious. only president trump could end this. he was the only one. >> so, why did mcconnell vote to acquit? he said he doesn't believe the senate has the power to convict a former president. house speaker nancy pelosi calling mcconnell a coward and a hypocrite. one house impeachment manager saying, quote, they let him off on a technicality. as for the former president, gloating and making it clear he's not going anywhere now, putting out this statement. "our historic, patriotic and beautiful movement to make america great again has only just beg

jesse, obviously mitch mcconnell has a very different version of events here.ed a blistering attack so obviously mitch mcconnell has so much bitterness and blame for the president for losing those two senate seats so that's why he's minority leader. would you side with here, jesse? >> jesse: i side with myself, kennedy, that's pretty clear. i side with the country second. listen, mitch mcconnell was very skillful in the way he got president trump to deliver republican policies for the country. they were a great team for four years and they got a lot done legislatively, administratively, everything and i think a lot of the american people should be thankful for that. when it became clear that donald trump was not going to win the election, mitch dumped him and i guess personally he was very offended by what went down with regards to how he saw trump's role in the capital riot and now there's a ton of bad blood and with donald trump loyalty is number one and he feels that he had loyalty through mcconnell, he was loyal to mitch, they did things together and mitch

we all read his statement against mitch mcconnell there.achieve there and what do you think it means for mitch mcconnell, going forward? >> it was a scathing rebuke of the senate minority leader. i think it wasn't surprising. i spoke with some mcconnell aides shortly after the statement went out. and they knew it was coming. they knew when mitch mcconnell delivered his own really harsh criticism of the president right after the impeachment trial on the senate floor, right after he voted to acquit the former president and again in a wall street journal op-ed yesterday, it's really a back and forth between the two. it shows that the president -- yes, he hasn't been on twitter. he hasn't been lashing out at his opponents on social media, but he's still finding ways to go after them and he's not planning to take a backseat, despite him being out of office. so i think it was kind of a message and a signal to anyone else who wants to oppose him. look, we will back your primary opponents. we will go after you. i will throw my political weight behi

mitch mcconnell was not for the right in discrediting that. you take on the easiest crazies to take on but you avoid your responsibility to acquiescing in a much more dangerous set of lies. >> it's easier. it's the lower hanging fruit. i'm going to come back to you. >> david gergen to you, on kevin mccarthy. he could be talking to marjorie taylor greene as early as tonight. given the statement from mitch mcconnell, what do you think kevin mccarthy does? >> i think he's going to be very careful and cautious and essentially ask her to tone it down, and he will not go after her the way he should. i think he -- he needs to be tough with her. he needs to make it very clear that she's not going to be welcome within the party if she continues down these tracks. bill kristol is absolutely right as always on calling it as a -- it's farcical to have this woman representing the party, further radicalization that started years ago with newt gingrich and company and it's only gotten worse and i think more dangerous for the republican party. we need a cente

mitch mcconnell decided not to.to want to go the route they didn't want to go with richard nixon, which was to use the courts to seek some kind of criminal sanction against him. so it appears there is a taste on the republicans' side for to be consequences. we will see whether the rubber hits the road, whether mitch mcconnell and his allies really mean this. of course, it will be up to the biden department of justice. let's see how republicans respond if merrick garland, the future attorney general, decides to move on a trump case. will republicans stand by and support that, or will they attack the biden administration for distraction for not focusing enough on the problems of the day? so it's unclear whether mitch mcconnell really intends to follow up on the meaning of his words. but if he does, the condemnation of trump, unlike that of richard nixon, will be criminal rather than political. >> tim annaphtali, we could continue this conversation for another 30 minutes. we have to move on. thank you so much for your

i would say mitch mcconnell— damaging? i would say mitch mcconnell does _ damaging?? i would say mitch mcconnell does not have - damaging? i would say mitch mcconnell does not have a i damaging? i would say mitch | mcconnell does not have a lot of credibility with many republicans. he is part of the establishment. he has troubling ties to china. i think the establishment republicans would like to see someone else as a presidential nominee in 2024, so they have an incentive to join with democrats to try to ensure that donaldj trump never runs for office again. there are very few people, there are many people, rather, who see mitch mcconnell as republican. if you don't think he is, that is fine, but it is you who are separate and want to take the party into perhaps a new direction?— to take the party into perhaps a new direction? what i would sa , a new direction? what i would say. there _ a new direction? what i would say. there are _ a new direction? what i would say, there are some _ a new direction? what i would i say, there are some republicans that are very estab

and mitch mcconnell knows that. to his colleagues that he thinks that this should be over so that they can get over with. and even the idea of witnesses, democrats may not want to do it, but republicans also have -- there is no up side for them in calling witnesses. >> and i think that we have to constantly ask the question, to what end? to managers not make an extraordinarily compelling case? the trial i observed this week, they made an incredibly powerful case. as you said, there's nothing about this that looks good for the former president. nothing about it. so i just keep asking, as i'm talking to people, they're like, well, there should be witnesses. i say to what end? what is it going to accomplish? could this case get any stronger than it is? i find that hard to believe. maybe some of the holes poked yesterday by the defense counsel can then be sort of re-sealed up for the house managers, but not for something that's going to alter the conclusion of how this trial is going to go or even how it's going to be r

and mitch mcconnell. wants to be considered a leader, needs to figure out which side he's on. >> yeah. >> because straddling the fence is not a good look, at this state of his life. >> well, alice, let me ask you. mcconnell, telling this to "the wall street journal" when asked about trump's role going forward. he says, i don't rule out the prospect that he may well be supporting good candidates. i'm not assuming that, to the extent the former president wants to continue to be involved, he won't be a const constructive part of the process. we know what kind of candidates trump likes. so, what's mcconnell going to do if -- you know, if we see more in the vane of the marjorie taylor greene types? >> well, then we'll be in serious trouble. look. it's almost as though we're in a situation, where you are trying to break up with someone, but you are trying to say, really, it's not you. it's me. and we need to just rip the band-aid off, and acknowledge the fact that, since the president -- former president -- has

mitch mcconnell himself said that. these senators have decided to hang their hat on jurisdictional grounds which are not based on the evidence, which are not based on the facts, and they will have to be judged for that. we have done our duty to the american people. >> we've got a lot to get to this hour. i want to begin with the politics of the vote. joining us now peter baker chief white house correspondent for the "new york times" and an msnbc political analyst and white house reporter for "the washington post" and msnbc political contributor. to you first, your biggest takeaway from this vote? >> well, i mean, in addition to the fact that the outcome was foreseen i think that two major things i was really struck by were the mcconnell reaction that you just played in which he says that the president is guilty but he was acquitted anyway. that is a significant statement with all of the caveats you can attach to why the former senate majority leader would be saying it. the fact that he broke publicly with donald trump

so is mitch mcconnell.he's a conservative on a lot of issues, but he's taken some other stances that at the time were really heroic. in fact, he was a civil rights champion as a republican in a time when that wasn't so common, unfortunately. i think mitch mcconnell ought to be worried about his legacy, not being majority leader again in two years maybe. he had a chance to take a stand on the right side of history. and as he i think very eloquently made the case that donald trump is, in fact, guilty, you know, of fomenting this riot, this insurrection, and yet he didn't vote for that. that's what confused me. and i was perplexed by that. >> yep, we were all hoping for some sort of viewer's guide after we witnessed that event, as i said, on live television. both of these gentlemen have agreed to stay here while i just fit in a quick break. we'll resume our conversation on the other side indeed. >>> coming up, joe biden keeping a low profile during impeachment as he had to. but how much of his administration s

mitch mcconnell said it all.t's exactly what happened. that's what we proved. >> i could feel a little bit of eye rolling what she said. it was a third of a second. i don't know if you caught it, but if you felt the room wherever you were watching tv, if you felt the room get cold, that was when she rolled her eye for a split second. are you feeling that same eye roll in terms of what this means going forward, again, understanding this was never going to be a coin toss in terms of a conviction or an acquittal, but the party put a really strong case, a very logical, a valid argument together, but donald trump was yet acquitted. >> because mitch mcconnell and gop senators did exactly what they've been doing for the past five years since trump has been leading their party. they refused to hold him accountable. they refuse to accept reality. and they refuse to even take any steps forward in their responsibility to hear this case as impartial jurors. their minds were made up, up well before this and representative pla

but in a stupefying and unprecedented move, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell who voted to acquit former president immediately took to the floor to not only say president trump was indeed responsible for provoking the insurrection, but also went a step further in condemning president trump's actions on january 6th. >> president trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. no question about it. a mob was assaulting the capitol in his name. these criminals were carrying his banners, hanging his flags, and screaming their loyalty to him. it was obvious. obvious that only president trump could end this. he was the only one who could. >> his reason for acquittal? mcconnell says he doesn't believe the senate has the power to convict a former president. house speaker nancy pelosi was absolutely outraged over mcconnell's decision, calling him a coward. >> for mitch mcconnell to create a situation where it could not have been heard before the 20th or even be done before the 20th in the senate, to say all the things he said, oh, my gosh, about president

mitch: we can extend it a few.ou are seeing some of the dynamic in the texas, parts of the carolinas, tennessee, nevada. what are those places have in common? no state income taxes. the other dynamic here on the ground is the fact that so much of the supply side of the economy is open in florida. that is a big part of the appeal. i have seen people in the elevator in the place i'm staying that came down here for the week because it was snowing in chicago and they came down here and said our kids will work remotely for school, let's do it in a sunny place. lisa: you have a lot of experience understanding the tea leaves and how long a trend could be. when people look at places like florida, texas, cities like san francisco and manhattan, how much mortars this trend have to play out for people moving away from those big cities? mitch: there are a couple things in play. where is their job? that will influence decisions. some of this is trying to get six months and a day of residency instead of 12 months of residency. w

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he clearly read mitch mcconnell's book.s mentor, john sherman cooper. he says how do you take such a tough stand and square it with the fact that a considerable number of people who elected you have the opposite view. he didn't hesitate a moment. i not only represent kentucky, i represent the nation and there are times you follow and times when you lead. claire mccaskill, you and i were on the air together a couple times yesterday, and you were back-and-forths. where are you on the genuineness of his remarks? >> well, let's be clear one thing that he did do yesterday. he made sure that there is a real war within the republican party, because he gave a lock-him-up speech, chuck. he said lock him up. he gave an invitation for criminal prosecution to the nation's prosecutors. and he's the highest ranking republican in the country. >> yep. >> so yesterday was a bad day for donald trump, but it was a worse day for the republican party. why did he do that? he can't stand donald trump. he thinks donald trump cost him the majority.

and that's essentially what you heard mitch mcconnell say. that they let him off on what they perceived at least to be a procedural issue. and you also heard mitch mcconnell go up there and say, essentially, that we overwhelmingly proved our case. that substantively, donald trump is guilty of inciting an insurrection. >> joining me now is another house impeachment manager, delegate stacey plaskett of the u.s. virgin islands. delegate, i'm calling you congresswoman. congresswoman plaskett, thank you for coming to "the sunday show." i have to ask you this at the outset. how surprised were you by the not guilty verdict for donald trump? >> not surprised, but, of course, terribly disappointed. >> i want to dive right in to the whole question of witnesses and what happened yesterday. everyone -- well, by everyone, i mean it seems like a lot of democrats are on fire over the fact that a vote was held, have witnesses and yet you and the other house impeachment managers opted not to call for witnesses. why? >> well, going back, jonathan, and thank yo