mitch: bob harrelson. high and tight, 3-1. 10-0, the republicans leading, looking for back-to-back wins after the 13-12 thriller a year ago. two years ago, there was no game due to the pandemic. lester, back in dramatic fashion at this year, republicans from the beginning. mitch: democrats open to sum up the 1969 amazing mets magic here with a walk to continue things here in the seventh. george: the last inning let off with a walk. pfluger does not want to repeat that. he would rather just get this done. and a pinch runner at first base. mitch: another congresswoman. george: as he is off and running to second base but there is going to be a throw! nice slide into second and a stolen base. mitch: nice slide, too. george: 0-1 two cardenas -- to cardenas. pfluger losing control after regaining control. starting in the seventh, little out of control. mitch: a nice piece of baserunning there. george: the third offering is low, 2-1. a great crowd again tonight here at nationals parks. we had a rain delay, the ra

mitch: there are.eally if you can get out of the inning without giving up any runs, that's a big accomplishment. george: we call that a huge win. we haven't talked about the democrats losing their ace, cedric richmond who joined the president's cabinet and is unable to play. was here in the ballpark, everybody was hoping that he would be able to suit up. look at some of the numbers. every time i write them down, 8-0 as a pitcher in this game. he went the distance a number of times. mitch: and a great hitter as well. no matter what your politics, republican or democrat, everyone acknowledges that the democrats really had their ringer for many years on this team. in fact, i was involved in a meeting with house majority leader steny hoyer the other day and his name came up because they were talking about the baseball game and he of course joked that they wished they could somehow get him to come back to join the democrats, they could really use him. george: ellzey caught looking. brady heads down to secon

mitch mcconnell, "a," wants to preserve the filibuster.to at least to appear to be a working partner. to show that he can get some stuff done, and that allows him to object to other stuff. but most importantly, he wants to regain the majority. and stuff like the gun legislation, he heard from suburban voters all over the country that they were really upset about the rise in mass shootings. so he's playing that game. the game in the house, and kevin mccarthy's real motivation only seems to be, own the libs. don't ever support anything if it will politically advantage democrats, even if it will advantage voters. it's a grosser game, but that's where kevin mccarthy seems to be. >> speaking of the game, the game normally with mitch mcconnell is chess, and with kevin mccarthy, it's more like tic tac toe. >> what are you saying, bri, he's just not as good at this? >> it's just known. mel will tell you, on the hill, mitch mcconnell is known as very strategic and kevin mccarthy is not, mel. >> yeah, but it's different in the house and in the senat

i think may not have understood quite the way the bargain he signed up forward. mitch mcconnell got mitch mcconnell judges, but they were mitch mcconnell, judges who have delivered for republicans on, as you say, agenda items like abortion, like guns, like regulation of the environment. but when donald trump turned to the court and said, i want you to protect my financial documents from waffle subpoenas, congress. the court said nothing doing your on your own. so this is one case where he didn't read the fine print and he got out maneuvered by mitch mcconnell on guns . you put the arguments time and again that people with guns are in fact less safe than those who don't have them. no one listening that do you foresee a time when people might listen and what do you think it needs to happen? what needs to happen to change people's orientation on this? i think it begins with the kinds of changes and attitude we had with things like drunk driving. the whole world is riveted by these horrifying massacres, especially when they affect children. and it's just, it's just heartbreaking. but day and

mcconnell got mitch mcconnell judges, but they were mitch mcconnell, judges who have delivered for republicans on, as you say, agenda items, like abortion, like guns, like regulation of the environment. but when donald trump turned to the court and said, i want you to protect my financial documents from waffle, subpoenas, congress. the court said nothing doing your on your, i don't have them. no one's listening that do you foresee a time when people might listen? what do you think it needs to happen? what needs to happen to change people's orientation on this? i think it begins with the kinds of changes and attitude we had with things like drunk driving. the whole world is riveted by these horrifying massacres, especially when it's actually and it's just, it's just heartbreaking, but day and day out. dozens of americans are killed or injured in accident or negligible, he will be, it will discharge and, and, and hurt someone they lot of father will hear a noise and go downstairs if there's a house breaker and kill his own child. these things happen. i mean, literally every day and the killings

how do you see this playing out, mitch?when you look at the inflation numbers, liz, last week, and you strip out food and energy, you see the core inflation grew by 6%. if you dig even deeper the regular household things we need just to go about our business, some of those items are up 30, 40%. and if you look at the root cause of all of it, energy is such a big part of the goods and services that we consume as americans. so we need a intelligent energy policy. it is the only way to fix the supply side of the economy which is energy dependent. we were energy independent before all of this started. so we have to come up with a plan to get us back on the path to being energy independent and net exporter. elizabeth: to what mitch is saying, congressman, inflation is a supply side issue too. you need more goods in the economy like things like u.s. energy but now the president says he will do an executive order on climate change after giving in to democrat senator manchin on cutting out that spending from the budget reconciliati

you're seeing both eggs come out and say, we would not support mitch mcconnell. i should say eric greitens, he has been saying that for a long time. eric schmidt is new to the game, in the last two days coming out against mitch mcconnell. >> one more question for, you the iowa caucuses have been the first up on the primary calendar traditionally, esther the dnc announced that it wouldn't make a decision about the 2024 primary calendar until after this year's elections. what's going on here? >> it's really interesting, the democratic party is really looking at its future. this decision is, i think, in some ways, an example of the democratic party trying to figure out who it wants to be. of, course the iowa caucuses has for a long time than the first and nation primaries, for a long time, you've been hearing from raegan democrats who are saying, why are democrats spending so much money in a state that's deeply red? and in a state that's as overs as other places including nevada, south carolina, even michigan, or minnesota? you have a number of states saying, pick m

rich: mitch roschelle, a lot coming u. thank you very much for joining us. mitch: good to see you.ern ukraine after russian rocket attack hit an apartment building, live report from on the ground in lviv, that's coming up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> stay seated, stay seated. please remain seated. rich: passengers aboard a spirit airlines flight from tampa to atlanta this morning they are safe while plane caught fire while landing and ended at jackson international airport in atlanta. a brake overheated and that caused the fire. first responders managed to extinguish the flames. ♪ ♪ ♪ rich: well, at least 15 people have been killed and dozens are feared trapped after russian attack destroys a five-story apartment building in donetsk lucas tomlinson with the latest from lviv. luke luck russian forces are slowly advancing across eastern ukraine and now control over 20% of the country, an area of the size of mississippi. we spoke to some ukrainians who have fled the onslaught. >> they will shooting heavily, last night my neighbor's house was burnt and they hit the city center. people had their legs

because mitch mcconnell yesterday flipped. i'm used to the lies. i am used to the hypocrisy. senator pat toomey will not take a meeting with the veterans groups. he sends out his chief of staff. i am used to the cowardice. i have been here a long time. the senate is where accountability goes to die. these people don't care, they are never losing their jobs. they are never losing their health care. scott toomey did not this is job, he is walking away. god knows what kind of pot of gold he is stepping into. to lobby this government to -- on more people. i am used to all of it but i am not used to the cruelty. they passed it, june 16, they passed the pac act. 84-13. you don't even see these scores anymore. everyone one of these individuals that have been fighting for years standing on the shoulders of vietnam veterans who have been fighting for years, standing on the shoulders of persian gulf war veterans, desert storm veterans just get the health care and benefits that they earned from their service and i don't care if they were fighting for our freedom, i don't care if they we

mitch: [laughter] that is an understatement.n the alibaba question, the market as of yesterday, it was kind of a muted response. it was a downmarket. it wasn't huge. i think the biggest advantage to alibaba, as i understand it, being the primary listing in hong kong, not in the u.s., is they will have access to the china connect, the hong kong connect. i saw one research analyst say anywhere from $6 billion to $25 billion and demand coming out of the stock. it is cheap. so is every other chinese internet company. it will either prove right now to be the best buy opportunity or probably dead money. i don't really understand the zero covid thing. it appears to me these people are taking their economy and they don't need to be. your guess is as good as mine as when that ends. we own some alibaba. have not bought more, have not sold it. i do think multiples, the multiple someone will pay for a chinese equity, is going to be impaired for a long time. all of a sudden they get more government approval, the government looks friendly. th

they belong in the hands of the military. >> what do you say to mitch mcconnell? >> open your eyes, mitch, it's going to come to your state too if it hadn't already. innocent people are going to die because people demand the right to own military assault weapons. that just isn't consistent with any value in america, and i don't believe it's consistent with the constitution. >> senator dick durbin, thank you very much for your time tonight, sir, really appreciate it. here to discuss with us tonight, former u.s. senator doug jones, former u.s. congresswoman barbara comstock, and editorial writer for "the new york times," michelle cottle. thank you for being with us tonight. senator jones, you heard senator durbin tell mitch mcconnell, open your eyes, take a look at what's going on. i've covered congress long enough to know, what's done is done for now. are they going to do anything else? >> no, i don't think there will be anything this time. we're too close to midterms. frankly, the best opportunity was the other day when they did something, and they pulled back. th

dagen: mitch, your reaction.khashoggi's murder. >> the whole thing was a disaster. it did nothing to help biden's mission other than tire the man out more than he's already tired for a trip like that. i was exhausted looking at all that travel. the fact of the matter is, the solution to energy woes is in the united states, it's not in saudi arabia, not in venezuela, not in russia, not in iran. i think the whole iran story is something that's really important and that when you look down the road our relationship with saudi arabia is really going to get fractured over our different views on iran. dagen: thank you, gentlemen. we'll be right back. dad, when is the future? um, oh wow. um, the future is, uh, what's ahead of us. i don't get it. yeah. maybe this will help. so now we're in the present. and now... we're in the future. the all-electric chevy bolt euv with available super cruise™ for hands-free driving. - dad. - yeah? do fish get thirsty? eh. find new answers. find new roads. chevrolet. psst. girl. you can d

. >> -- mitch mcconnell just played? how democrats caught senate democrats -- plus, caught on tape, the exclusive audio of congressman matt gaetz discussing pardons with a key trump ally. then, the new maga, forget trump, we are talking about mothers against greg abbott, a new group that wants change for texas families. i am ayman mohyeldin, let's get started. ♪ ♪ ♪ all right, mitch mcconnell got played, there is no other way to say. he got duped, he fooled, he got bamboozled, whatever word you want to use, that is what happened to him. it is a statement i don't think i have ever said before on the show. i'm about to say something else rather unprecedented, kudos to joe manchin, working together with senate majority leader chuck schumer. joe manchin pulled a fast one on old mitch and in doing so, resurrected president biden stalled legislative agenda. how did they manage it? it is a bit complicated, so bear with me for a second. you see, the white house and senate democrats had two pieces of legislation that they wanted

mitch mcconnell with, quote, first they killed your family's budget.o kill your job, too. tom cotton is with us. senator, good to see you. mitch mcconnell got 16 republicans on board to pass this enrichment bill for semi conductor companies. did he get duped by joe manchin or is he a con artist? >> i wouldn't say mitch mcconnell did but they proceeded on the -- i would invite those bill sponsors of that semi conductor bill to join me today calling on every single house republican to vote no. we should not be greasing the skids this week for the democrats to spend $250 billion so they can spend another $500 billion next week. that's only going to add to the record high inflation joe biden has already created and now that we are in a recession, the tax increases are only going to kill your jobs. this is a terrible deal and we have to stop it. >> reading through this proposed spending bill from schumer and manchin, it looks like as the bills always do that the tax increases won't raise nearly the amount of money that they do and the spending will be forev

mitch mcconnell and lindsey graham. he should be the first to condemn the epithets coming towards the prosecutor in fulton county but he's not. he's hiding from her. it's almost comical how perfectly lindsey graham this moment is, the guy that lights the fire wants to run from it. here is the other great irony in lindsey graham's behavior in this moment, and i would say go to mitch mcconnell and others which is this. you know what ultimately will lead to the subpoena of donald trump? lindsey graham's lack of cooperation. if he said there was a legitimate legislative purpose. i wasn't doing this on behalf of the president. if he wanted to go under oath and say that was the nature of my phone call, it gets very hard for the fulton county prosecutor to then subpoena donald trump. but it's very easy without lindsey graham for the fulton county prosecutor to say, you know what, judge, because of the lack of cooperation of lindsey graham, we have reason to believe that we need to bring under subpoena the former president of t

so, in short, as i have said, mitch mcconnell got played. earlier, i spoke with one of the lawmakers most responsible for keeping joe manchin and chuck schumer at the negotiating table, democratic senator john hickenlooper of colorado, watch. >> senator but john hickenlooper, think you for joining us. according to axios, sir, you had it integral role in getting senator schumer and mentioned back to the negotiating table back on reconciliation. it is good for us in the climate. tell me what you are saying to get them back to the table. >> let's be clear that chuck schumer and joe manchin were the ones that created this and negotiated it. i just wanted to be the positive and optimistic force, anytime there were disruptions. i tried to push through them and make sure that everybody else was coming along. for a while there, democrats all over the country were giving up. it was just too important for us to give up. >> yeah, no, absolutely, i think that is why a lot of people are appreciative to your efforts and certainly to senator schumer and ma

at the time that was mitch mcconnell. there's a hell sergeant at arms that reports to the leader of the house. that was and is speaker pelosi. to your point about who can authorize the national guard, it would come from the president. there would be a formal authorization of that. according to pulled effect -- politifact, there was no formal authorization of that. it was the vice president who called for the national guard. caller: let me ask you this before i get off the line. what is politifact? where did they get their information from? i have never heard of it until a couple of weeks ago. host: i don't know off the top of my head who it is funded by. go to politifict.com. you can go to our staff, about us, our process. the principles of the truth and media methodology for independent fact checking. since our launch in 2007 we have received many questions about how we choose facts to check, how we stayed nonpartisan, how we go about fact checking and other topics. this document attempts to answer those questions. you c

news of this deal also reportedly came to a shock to the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and left many wondering if the washington leader had been played by democrats. earlier this month, mcconnell threatened to block the bill boosting domestic production of computer chips if manchin supported the climate provisions in the reconciliation bill. shortly after that warning, manchin publicly pulled support for the climate items but yesterday, just hours after mcconnell gave democrats the votes needed for that unrelated chips bill, manchin reversed course once again, and signaled that he would support a reconciliation package. the lawmakers caught off guard by the deal are pouring over the deal to find out what's in it. and democrats for the most part sounded hopeful. but the other key democrat we have not yet heard from is senator kyrsten sinema of arizona. she opposed ending the carry interest tax break for high earners and her office declined to comment to nbc news when asked about that provision being included, in this new manchin deal. the federal reserve following through on anot

what is mitch mcconnell saying today? almost nothing.gan, pennsylvania, full-blown election deniers, some of whom were actually at the january 6th rally, carlos? >> well, that's a fair point, steph. i will say that on january 6th, mitch mcconnell has not vacillated. he's always been clear about what happened that day, and he's always condemned it explicitly. now, without question, 20 republicans have put their short term political interest above the integrity that is necessary to extinguish this evil flame that has tainted and infected our democracy for so long. there is no question that is the case. hopefully these hearings can start changing those minds. republican voters and in terms a lot of these republicans who have refused to leave have been following these conspiracy-ing's, or adjusters that they've been biden on the sideline. >> let's talk more about the party of law in order, david, because a panel revealed text messages from trump campaign officials who are criticizing him that he didn't even acknowledge the deaths of capitol

what's mitch mcconnell saying today? almost nothing.ice in maryland, ohio, michigan, pennsylvania, full-blown election deniers, some of whom actually were at the january 6th rally. carlos? >> oh, no, that's a fair point, i will say that on january 6th, mitch mcconnell has never asked, he has always been clear about what happened that day and condemned it explicitly. now without question, too many republicans have put their short-term, short-term political interests above the integrity that is necessary to extinguish this evil flame that has tainted and infected our democracy for so long. there's no question that's the case. and hopefully, these hearings can start changing those minds. republican voters. and in turn, a lot of these republicans who have refused to lead, following these conspiracies, or this is the other part, being on the sidelines. >> let's talk more about the party of law and order, david, because the panel revealed text messages from trump campaign officials who are criticizing him that he didn't acknowledge the deaths

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following the death of antonin calia, mitch mc-- scalia, mitch mcconnell and his republican allies in the senate left open merrick garrland's seat for 14 months. and then they went back on their nonexistent rule that they invented for cynical purposes to rush through the election of amy coney barrett. the republican party will do whatever it takes, whatever it takes to hold onto power and to impose its policies on the american people. and justice thomas just told us that the far right majority is not done. it's now coming for marriage equality. contraception. same-sex intimacy. expanding the court will protect us from future bad decisions. that's why the vast majority of democrats and the majority of americans agree with adding seats to the court. democrats in congress should have no faith that anything less than adding four seats to the supreme court is going to solve the present day crisis. a less conservative majority gutted the voting rights act. and just a few weeks ago it gutted the clean air act. imagine if the women's health protection act and other fundamental rights legislat

>> i love mitch.n the business of naming names. 20, the strategy is that by its most. >> i asked urgently needs, paul. >> now. now, sir. this undermines biden. i just claimed that democrats are undermining their president. >> i'm saying in a. future let's just say, not 2024. just beyond. >> listen, i love mitch. i love him. i know him. he is the clinton level of talent. you can't bypass. you can't ignore the vice president. i can think vice president who sought their nomination didn't get it. biden is going to run. republicans are going to nominate. trump biden is going to win. >> okay, mark? last word. name names. are you gonna need some news? >> [inaudible] >> start over. i stepped on the. sitting in. >> i don't think biden is going to run. i don't think trump will get the nomination. we'll have a brand-new field. >> while. we're gonna need some needs? on both sides? >> i'll say this, i think mitch landrieu's campaign for mayor is the only one here last. probably not so great. >> who is going to get

there was some discussion last week in the last couple of weeks in which mitch mcconnell the minority leader in the senate had said that that couldn't happen or that it wasn't likely to happen as long as there was still a partisan democratic reconciliation package rewith a lot of environment related provisions and tax provisions that were kicking around out there. but as we learned in netsuite at least from john cornyn the republican senator from texas over theweekend , now that joe mentioned the democratic senator from west virginia has basically torpedoed anything other than health care provisions in the reconciliation bill, that objection from the republicans may go away. so again we are at this point where we've got all these moving parts that are moving at once. it looks like the narrow semi conductor bill is the next one is going to move. while the democrats are working with the on parliamentarians in senate to figure out exactly what they can do on the healthcare front. and can fly combined with the sentence reconciliation procedures. >> thank you for the segway because i want

mitch mcconnell spoke out against him.onservative men who has served in congress in the last several decades. this is not a minor difference. this is a chasm on what the republican party and conservatism should be and papering this over in a sense because trump is again the sole focus is on the past. >> it seems as if he wants to retain some trump voters if he has a shot at 2024. that's pence i'm talking about. vaughn and jake, thank you. >>> next, why some 300,000 monkeypox vaccineser marked for the u.s. sat unused overseas while the virus spread in new york. e virus spread in new e virus spread in new york question your protection. try always discreet. a monster was attacking but the team remained calm. or... his nose. ladies... welcome to my digestive system. when your gut and vaginal bacteria are off balance. you may feel it. but just one align women's probiotic daily helps soothe digestive upsets. and support vaginal health. welcome to an align gut. for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor abo

>> i think mitch mcconnell is a good politician, to be honest with you. he had roughs with president trump. he chose to go that route. i agree with a lot of what he does, i disagree with that specific approach. but, you are absolutely correct. i think president trump is the best thing for the republican party. it is what it is. we will see in 24 when he gets reelected. >> that's josh in louisville, kentucky. that concludes our live programming for tonight. and just a moment we will re-air the entire hearing. but a reminder that all of c-span is brought to you by these companies, including cox, xfinity, spectrum. we took your calls tonight and we will take them a gun -- again tomorrow morning. washington journal is on every morning at 7:00 a.m. it is news and your views beginning at 7:00 a.m. eastern time. and now here is the january 6 hearing read air. -- re-air.

she was talking expliciy in that quote about mitch mcconnell. the more active supporters, graham and mccarthy -- one of the thing -- things these hearings in the last few weeks have put in sharp relief is that there is another way to do this. there is the simple patriotism of telling the truth, among honest people like cassidy hutchinson or rusty bowers from arizona who have stepped forward and told the truth. judy: i want to ask you to get at this distinction between republicans, americans who genuinely believe that but general -- what donald trump said, they think he is the right answer still. and on the other hand, the republicans who, your argument is, they know better, but they still are working for him. mark: the working title of this in my own head is they all knew better. there's a sort of chicken and egg question involved in this. everyone saying one of donald trump superpowers is that he has the unyielding support of his face. -- of his base. i think the reason largely is not so much that he has this magic touch over his voters. he doe

jackie: mitch, come back to you on the economy overall. right now we've confirmed this recession we're in. some people thought we were in it sooner. many are forecasting a period essentially of stagflation where we're going to see continued high inflation, we're going to see low growth, we're going to see the labor market continue, that is the one thing democrats hang their hats on is this labor market, low unemployment, simply to me seems like a very low participation rate it almost seems artificial. that we're in for tough times ahead. what i'm seeing from the tech companies, for example, and on wall street is, a headline here and a headline there, about layoffs and job cuts as things start to slow down. it doesn't happen overnight? >> jackie, as you know in the middle of corporate earnings season for second quarter and you know there is a press release gets issued in the morning and a conference call at some point. when you listen to ceos and cfos on that conference call they all talk about controlling stepping. if you don't know what c

mitch mcconnell is different. they don't have any personal bond whatsoever.nell knew that if he wanted to work with the republican president and get the judges that he wanted to get from the supreme court on down, he needed to work with the white house on this. look, politics is about deal making. but ultimate lirks this relationship has been very precarious, and they have turned the other way in -- in a lot of steps along the way to a presidency that think, you know, they would say privately and i certainly would say has been quite destructive. >> so much reporting that is striking. i want to quote from one -- this is one part of europe coersation with liz cheney. she said the vast majority of elected republicans understand how dangerous trump is. but they also act as though they're buy bystanders. do you buy that? i mean, based on your reporting? >> oh, very much so. i i mean, she was talking about explicitly in that quote about mitch mcconnell. there are some who are more active supporters and sycophants which is, you know, graham and mccarthy, that catego

has not been given to eric garland, we did not go to the courts to fight mitch mcconnell again.amming through amy coney barrett, the seat, and so we have let two seats go in the last two democratic presidencies, and the question is why. why have we not fight for something that we know is a lifetime position. we have allowed this to go and now here we are. without joe biden expanding the courts, understanding the urgency of this moment, which apparently he does not, because he is continuing to negotiate with mitch mcconnell, who we know negotiates in that faith. we will continue to see our rights be ticked away one decision at a time. >> martinelli just laid the table for you, so this must be a very serious conversation, danielle mentioned, in the louisville carrier journal, biden has struck a deal to nominate an anti abortion republican to the federal bench, which is a federal appointment, in exchange for not holding the future federal nominations. for nbc news, we have not confirmed this, yet but we know you're not supposed to deal with the devil. i feel like mitch mcconnell is

kevin mccarthy, mitch mcconnell, condemning the insurrection, before they fell into line.rthy went down to mar-a-lago, eight days after joe biden took over at the white house. mcconnell, who probably doesn't get enough blame for this, it is not going to happen until after january 20th, at which point, everybody had their built-in answers. why should we impeach a president who isn't in office? they all did their part here, and ultimately, they are propping him up, in that continues to this day, and so is everyone else. >> j.d. vance wants text to a friend, he thinks trump might be hitler. now, being completely obedient to him, running the trumpiest candidate of all campaign. do people like j.d. vance get any respect for their voters, or do they just think that their voters are dumb, and that they will believe it if they just say, i love trump? >> it really doesn't look respectful from the outside. the fact is, they voted for him. he is the republican nominee for senate in ohio, and he's a bet to win that senate seat in november. they will say, the only formula that they car

i remember interviewing mitch mcconnell after he got back from ukraine. that was a secretive trip. very few people knew about it. even people on the senators own staff did not know about it until they were on the ground. they did not send out the press release until they had left ukrainian territory because you are sending these very powerful people into a war zone meeting with the president of ukraine. this is the kind of thing where security is paramount and often times the u.s. embassy will handle the security when senators are in a specific country. obviously they did not want to talk about it that much and how they got into ukraine. host: the political nature of these trips, into question from catherine on twitter on who provided the funding for nancy pelosi to see the pope and take communion when she cannot take it in the united states? guest: she was in rome last week. it seems like she turned it into a vacation because she went to florence afterwards. the way these trips work is if it is for an official purpose the government picks up the tab. often times members will tack

and then, who is mitch mcconnell. judge -- the person who is the next leader of the gop, potentially, in 2024 is now seen running through the hallway. kevin mccarthy could be speaker of the house. seen us back less in the course of events. scared. it's interesting to watch this cheney and kinzinger do this on their way out of office. i mean, literally. the bomb is blowing up their careers. they are making sure that it also takes down a lot of weak republicans. i think in their minds, they're hoping donald trump. >> before we go any further with. yes we have someone very important joining us live. democratic congressman elect -- adam kinzinger, i imagine her blood pressure is still up. if she was a normal person, and not a 20-year veteran. congressman al-arabiya, this has been a very big. night it's been a lot of work for you this evening. thank you for making time to be with us live. >> thanks for having me. >> so, i have a lot of things i want to ask you about in terms of tonight's hearing. let me ask you generally.

after the legislation was introduced, even mitch mcconnell signal that he is opening to updating the i'll start with you on this one. your thoughts on the proposed changes to the electoral count act? >> the electoral count act means a lots of changes and the reform has been in office for a while now. there's a bunch of steps that this proposed bipartisan legislation would take a welcome, including making it clear, that the vice president's role is ceremonial, limiting the ability for state legislatures to try to change the law after election day two -- with electors. but my friend and former colleague who mitigates voting rights cases more than anybody, has raised concerns in the last couple of days about technical aspects of the bill. he worries for instance that one portion of it may make the certificate of ascertainment, that governors and power earn power to issue no later than six days before the electoral college is set to convene, but that might be sort of like a final word on who the electors are. and in a state where you have a trump ally and governor, making it hard for --

she have picked a better location because it seemed inherently political with all that mitch mcconnell is done to block president obama's appointees and he's been instrumental in changing the face of the court. >> can i push back? >> i want to get in on how you can increase -- on the court because you hit on something. >> i'm taking justice barrett's words. she said the best way to determine whether to wear partisan hat or not is to read the opinions. that is good advice and i think too much the discussion that's going on about the supreme court in general i doubt that it's coming from people who read the opinions. they have read what critics have said aboutat them and i think we do ourselves a disservice when we look at the supreme court through others' eyes. reade the opinions as to the worker the court. i think if people do that they will be deeply impressed by the work of the court. they disagree about fundamental things but i don't know if these are partisan attacks. justice breyer in the last couple of years this was something he was outspoken about. the judges are not partisans

mitch mcconnell, i mean, paging mitch mcconnell, he was the one who decided that this was an okay candidateell and his circle were pretty nervous about the prospect of herschel walker in that race. perhaps for the reasons we're seeing right now. he is an untested candidate politically. and you're looking on the flip side with warnock, obviously a freshman senator who's had a high profile, considering his role in the senate on fighting for voting rights. he had pretty blockbuster fund-raising numbers, $17 million is a lot of money that can go pretty far in georgia. he's spending a lot, certainly, with all the television ads. but that's a lot of money he can run on. very much republicans watching this race nervously. >> another trump endorsed candidate in ohio. you're seeing jd vance struggling a little bit, it seems, with the fund-raising numbers. is that a cause for concern for some folks? >> for vance it most definitely should be. his campaign right now is almost $250,000 in debt, which is not the place you want to be heading into the last few months of this general election cycle. and his

and while some us officials are fearful of a potential conflict with china, other politicians like mitch mcconnell are apparently pushing for a more serious confrontation with beijing. you know, the whole idea that we're worried about chinese rhetoric shows how misplaced our policy is. this is a question of how america conducts its own foreign policy and thank you very much. decision ping will conduct it the way we want to conduct it. can we send a constitutionally denominated official. busy to china, are we going to back down because gigi and pang is shaking his fist. if we can allow the chinese to dictate who can visit taiwan and who cannot, then we have already seated. tie one to the chinese if they can veto every one in the world who wants to come to tie one, then taiwan will be isolated. so i think she has an absolute right to visit and i think the support of taiwan is important. vice president of the center for china and globalization. victor dow told us that nancy pelosi is trip to taiwan would seriously undermine us. china relations the proposed a visit to taiwan by nancy pelosi

it is hard to say he would rather have mitch mcconnell as the geordie leader then have -- as the majority leader than have joe manchin as a democratic senator. is that the most comfortable thing to say -- that is not the most comfortable thing to say, but with it this narrow, it will end up with somebody like manchin as the swing vote. host: deandre, miami, republican line. caller: i had a question. i hear what everybody is saying about the democratic side, it looks like they're are throwing everything out the window, but as far as a possibility of trump running with the santos -- with ron desantis as his vp? do you think that is possible? host: that is deandre in florida. guest: i have no idea what would come together in terms of former president trump and governor desantis. i know the betting money you into this sort of thing is that governor desantis is the most likely alternative to trump, but i have not the faintest idea of whether or not the former president -- i covered the white house for the last year or so of the trump administration. i cannot render a gas what he -- a guess wha

blake masters, both would not support mitch mcconnell.ue in the primaries as the candidates align themselves with trump. >> there are a number of candidates i think gop leadership would find to be extreme headaches were they to make it to congress. a point worth making on the discussion about democrats getting in to support some of these extreme republican candidates there's a really interesting discussion whether it is ethical to do so. is that the right thing to do politically but also worth pointing out that some of these right wing extreme candidates they have a lot of momentum. it's not as though they're only propped up with democratic money and funding going in. there's an appetite for the candidates and the forces within the gop in place already. >> yeah. this is not a strategy that's not uncommon. we have seen this before. sometimes it worked. we'll see if it comes back to bite them. >>> donald trump hosted a saudi arabia backed tournament. 9/11 families say he's taking money from killers. ♪ my name is austin james. as a musician

>> i love mitch, i don't get in the business of naming names.ll you one name, these charges that biden needs most. >> i ask you to name names paul. >> no, no sir, that undermines biden. i just complain that the democrats are undermining their own president. >> let's say not 2024, but beyond. >> i love mitch, i know him, i love him. he has the clinton level talent, you can't ignore the vice president of the united states. i can't think of a vice president who saw their nominees -- it is all mute, biden is going to run and bite is going to win. >> last word, mark? are you going to name names? i don't think biden is going to run. i don't think trump will get the nomination. so we'll have a brand-new field on both sides. >> i'm? >> are you gonna name some names? on both sides? >> i will say this. i think mitch landrieu's first campaign for mayor, it's probably the only election here. lost [laughs] so it's gonna get the nomination? ron desantis and who else? >> he may well 20 gets on the national stage. he has such a tight tight circle does might loo