governor mitch daniels signed the bill last month even though it could leave thousands of women without showdown could cost indiana an estimated $4.3 billion. cecile richards is the president of planned parenthood. good afternoon, cecile. >> hello. >> did governor daniels decide to do this because even though the organization spends 97% of its funds on female reproductive health issues, he felt that 3%, the 3% on abortions was just too much? >> i really can't speculate as to why governor daniels signed this bill. i think the real problem is the state legislature in indiana is basically putting their own politics ahead of women's health care. planned parenthood has 28 health centers in the stit of indiana, many in rural parts of the state where women need access to the basic preventative care. it's affordable, high quality, and more than 90,000 women in the state of indiana turn to planned parenthood each year for care. >> isn't it right that planned parenthood already doesn't receive any federal funding for abortion services? >> that's exactly right, martin. in fact, no organization, no

i sat down with indiana governor mitch daniels at his office in the state capital. beaten president obama, but it was his family that vetoed the run. daniels says he has no regrets and the first question i asked him was about the process of making a very personal and difficult decision. >> oh, it was almost surrealistic. i mean, i think it takes a certain amount of presumption to think of yourself in those terms and i never had, never thought of running for president. but i felt some sense of responsibility to people who thought we had something to offer. and i hope i didn't let them down. >> so you're not doing it, but do you think somebody else can beat barack obama in this republican field? >> absolutely i do. >> who do you think has a good chance? >> i wouldn't rule out anybody that is out there talking about it right now. but certainly among those who are most discussed, mitt romney, tim pawlenty, jon huntsman. these are really talented people with a lot to offer the country. >> on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the most vulnerable, how vulnerable is barack obama?

one person we know that is not running for president, that is indiana governor mitch daniels.. is it even meaningful at this point, one? and, two, i know you were in indianapolis yesterday and he would have potentially been a front-runner. i wonder what he thinks about how the gop could take on obama. >> well, first of all, this poll obviously we all know it's pretty early. but if you're mitt romney looking at it, you're thinking this is not bad news for me. i want a cautionary note here that at this point before the '96 election, bob dole was beating bill clinton. oops. so a little early on. and it reflects mitt romney's name identification. he's run once before. people like him. they are taking another look at him. as for mitch daniels, he's the candidate that lots of people in the republican establishment really want to run. they think he has a lot of credibility on issues regarding the debt, the deficit. it used to be george w. bush's chief budget fellow. but he believes, i asked him on a scale of one to ten, is barack obama beatable? ten being beatable? he said he's about

we heard that in the piece from governor mitch daniels.'ve got to start talking about not only what programs we're going to cut but also how we're going to raise money to really close this debt. >> when you talk about revenues, you mean raising taxes. you know the republicans are not going to go along with raising taxes. why even raise that at this point? >>. >> well, the republicans are expecting the democrats to go along with cutting medicare and social programs that real people are dependent upon. why don't republicans have to go along with cutting -- getting tax revenues back in and getting tax rates to where they were? >> because that's an old stale argument. republicans are talking about and have been serious and the only serious plan on the table is paul ryan and it's the only one that will save medicare. it's entitlement reform the the only way to grow revenues is along the line of what governor pawlenty has put out today. tax reform, lower rates. cutting out corporate welfare, all energy subsidies, we wanted a flatter, cleaner, ta

look at mitch daniels and people were concerned if he ran for president his wife went off and had a different marriage and came back. people were concerned about her and not him. how is he enabling her. this is not a two-way street and the only person who is accountable for his behavior is him, himself. >> i want to say that not to pin this on women but to acknowledge this clearly will have been women hurt by the scandals. a lot of women have been sort of the victims here. but unfortunately, behind everyone of these scandals there is a woman one or two or three or more who enabled this and why is that happening? and does it have something to do with the fact that we've pushed since the sexual revolution eliminate gender roles and say women are just like one of the guys it's okay to engage in that casual sex and what does it mean in terms of relationships. and marriage. and how do we view it as a society and there are consequences, there are benefits to that and consequences too and this may be one of them. >> that is interesting when you look at what the women have said they try to initiate c

these giant con fabs about the religious right later in the year in october he was talking about mitch daniels who was a kind of enemy number one in the problem inside for these religious right because he talked about doing a truce on social issues and sort of putting social issues aside talk about just critical issues kind of a pure fiscal tea party message well you know he had to he didn't run for president he stepped down and today tony perkins came out and said well look at this you know it just shows. you can't you know run a campaign credibly without kind of talking about still so i think they're still pretty powerful at least they think they're still very interesting thing because maybe you can't run a campaign without doing it but apparently if we look at the way that our lawmakers are acting right now in terms of what they're debating right the entire conversation is surrounding the debt and tackling the debt and putting budget cuts on top of that and so i feel like they're trying to act like fiscal responsibility is the only single thing that they care about despite the fact that may

fascinating to see who is at this because you have republican governors like haley barbour and mitch danielsrt. this in the context of the latest mcclasp which i poll which shows that 58% don't way the way the president is handling the deficit and the economy, and yet president clinton is saying that he believes even with 9% unemployment, that barack obama could be reelected. he'd be surprised if he were not. >> that's got something to do with who is in the republican field at the hospital. >> i guess that's a big part of it. it depends on who is pitching when you're hitting. >> we'll keep an eye out for those things. good to see you. tim farley from xm sirius radio. >>> deny ghis could ynis kucini directly involved in the uprising in syria. the anti-war democrat says he's on a fact finding mission at the request p some of his air ran american constituents. he says they're concerned about conditions on the ground. kucinich's trip is pot without critics who see as legit miding al assad's regime. >> i met with the opposition and the government. i think it's really important that people were in

in south carolina endorsed our campaign and the person who is likely going to be the chair of mitch daniels presidential campaign. al huberts and in new hampshire this weekend getting good momentum and i am the one candidate who can unite the whole republican party and not excite or appeal to one chunk of it i can win the nomination and election. when republicans and conseshatives look at real challenge aus and staying true to our values and beating bark obama i can do that . >> we'll ask you about that finally, sir. the knock on you, is only a politician would this be a problem is that you are too nice and bland and republicans want somebody who can take the fight to barack obama. bill oriley talked about this on friday night in the understated fashion and here it is it. >> you got to get trump in him. he can't be going out. hagendasch can put his picture on vanilla. can we get that? hear thag? the guy is invisible. >> chris: vanilla and invisible. how do you play it, governor? >> chris, did bill oriley use the word vanilla? >> chris: he did. >> is he playing the race card on me? >> chris:

that seems to be the issue with governor of indiana mitch daniels and possibly the same for jeb bush.n't feel that they are an election possibility, i don't know why they aren't running. >> to will's question he asked earlier or that he answered earlier, i'm going to let you answer the question now. >> okay. >> we'll talk about the president. this week was brutal for the economy with the report that shows that manufacturing has declined, car sales down, housing prices still falling, the stock market took a tumble, and hiring slowed dramatically. that's depressing but that's a big mountain to climb for any incumbent president, lz. >> absolutely. first of all, i want to just tell will the reason no one is running is because of obama. that's the primary reason. even with the numbers you talked about, don, the simple fact is that he came into what we all know was the worst economic outlook of this country in many, many generations. and what he's done, yeah, the numbers have been slow but they have not stopped. we still have 14 straight months of job growth in the private sector. we still

also governor mitch daniels in indiana. chris wallace will speak with a former alaska gov. sarah palin. at 2:00 p.m., it is the c-span state of the union. a former director of the congressional budget office will be speaking. a former rnc chairman will also there. and bob schieffer interviews nancy pelosi and they will take a look at republicans in 2012. -- campaign 2012. it begins at noon eastern with "this week" of nbc. you can listen to them all at c- span radio. you can also look -- listen to satellite radio or on line at c-span.org. >> it was not altogether a compliment, though -- although he regarded it as one. >> republican of thomas reed changed the power structure in the house. >> it overturned a long standing status in the house. >> mr. speaker on c-span q&a. you can down on one of our signature interview programs online at c-span.org/podcasts. and eileen shanahan talks about reporting this weekend on "american history" television. we will also look at american artifacts, the museum resource center and the history of overflowing fidel castro. "washington journal"

. >> i narrowed it down to about four, the four former governors, the -- mitch daniels, haley barbourty and mitt romney. and two of them have dropped out soar that's down to two. if rick perry decides to get in i'll feel comfortable putting him in the mix but my support will probably go to one of those. >> a former governor. >> if you notice, he's very biased towards former governors. >> are you as biased? >> there is a lot of historic precedent for former governors being successful as candidates and you have to argue relatively successful regardless of party affiliation as president. president clinton. president reagan. >> roosevelt. >> roosevelt. you know, it's cheap executive experience, leadership, decision making, handling all the aspects of the budget, dealing with different political constituents. >> you really need more experience than being a community organizer to run this country. >> but i noticed that in that list of governors, no jon huntsman. >> well, i only support republicans. >> okay. them's fighting words. do you agree with him? >> well, when you get to a certain age

all medicare funding for indiana if the state doesn't drop the ban, which was signed by governor mitch danielsthe judge is expected to make her decision by july 1st. >>> new tests show that bean sprouts from an organic farm in germany may not be the cause of europe's deadly e. coli outbreak after all. 23 of 40 samples have turned up negative. testing is not yet complete. 22 people have died. thousands more are sick. >>> formeri imf chief dominique strauss-kahn was met by angry workers as he arrived at court. this was his first court appearance since he was arrested and placed on house arrest nearly two weeks ago and charged with sexually assaulting a hotel maid. >>> the justice department is under fire for its criminal indictment of john edwards on six charges stemming from his attempt to cover up his affair. prosecutors are being challenged now for their theory of the case. mainly that money that edwards solicited from wealthy supporters was not a gift, but an illegal campaign contribution. edwards had very little to say in his own defense, except to suggest no crime was ever committed or eve

mitch daniels, chris christie, all of that stuff. it's interesting. >> i want to bring up the very amusing picture on the front of "the economist" this week. you've got a picture of squabbling republicans in terms of their vying for the nomination. and also, you've got obama standing there stay saying, and yet, i could still lose. what is going on in the white house right now, jake, in terms of concern about this very matter? there's no clear, sort of giant to take him on, and yet, policy and economics might do that? >> i think there's an understanding that there will be a giant in, whether it's mitt romney and george and i have talked about this. probably more likely tim pawlenty, because romney alienates a lot of tea party p conservatives, pawlenty is a real opening for him assuming palin doesn't run. i think there's a real understanding that there while be a formidable public opponent. president obama got every break he could possibly get in 2008 and still 47% of the country voted against them. they do not expect that opposition t

republican governor mitch daniels signing that stat -- statute. bill the feds are getting involved, setting up a fight between the state of indiana and the feds in washington. john fund, columnist for the "wall street journal," john, good morning to you. >> thank you. bill: so what the state did in indiana, they said no more public money will go to planned parenthood, alleging that once planned parenthood gets money it all goes into the same pocket and can be used for potentially aborings. that's the state's position, stkphrebgt and planned parenthood argues what? >> we provide a whole range of services to teenagers and young adults that have nothing to do with abortion, we provide counseling, we provide help with prenatal care, so it's unfair to tag us with this because we segregate our accounts and put some money over for abortions and some money over for other things. bill: you say this should not even be an issue. why not? >> look, this is medicaid. it's a stit-run program with federal dollars thrown into it. as far as i'm concerned the state

he was waiting to see if mitch daniels and haley barbour would get in the race. a convert and no one is more passionate than converts. that's ed's take. it's true, it's no secret republicans in general are looking around for some less obvious options. by that, i mean who other than romney could be their candidate. and one of the reasons bachmann is surging now is because she was so widely discounted and she's now benefiting from the low expectations. she is outperforming her expectations. she had been portrayed as a gaffe-prone rookie who is loose with the facts. but since the cnn debate two weeks ago, she's been articulate, clear about her convictions, disciplined, communicating her ideas, very clearly better frankly than many of the other candidates out there. the other important point is that her message resonates with the base. that's who's engaged at this stage of the campaign. so she's clicking. the question is, does she stay strong and does she have the endurance? >> low expectations coming into something like this can ultimately be a good thing. but if yo

governor mitch daniels signed a law cutting more than $1 million in funning making indiana the first state to deny the organization medicaid funds. a judge ruled yesterday the state is not allowed to eliminate general health services because it also provides abortions. >>> just one more thing. that was the signature phrase for actor peter falk in his television series "columbo," he died thursday at his california home. he had been suffering from alzheimer's disease. he was 83 years old. now russ and rebecca. >>> it's now about 21 minutes past the hour. mr. lonnie quinn is here with our first check of the weather. good morning to you. >> good morning, russ. good morning, rebecca. good morning, everybody. my weather headlines this morning. the midwest, storms will be firing up for you, excessive heat for those in texas and you heard about this story earlier in our broadcast, record floods taking place in north dakota. it's just going to be getting worse. look at the numbers once again. in minot, forecast to crest at 14 feet, highest on record, going back to 1881. same in foxholm, crest

mitch daniels would be one, the governor of indiana.e declined because his family was so uncomfortable with the idea of standing out under the scrutiny that you're talking about, putting the family in the glare of the spotlight and having absolutely picked apart as it is this days. and that is before you even get to where you start solving all of these problems, which are a long list. guest: this is why we have elections. the best part of all that is that it is an even playing field. everyone's side has to play on the same turf for the economic situation is not different for any republican candidate or a democratic candidate. the scrutiny that they all go under is all the same. it is a test of the candidates just have to cover. host: does the president enjoyed campaigning? guest: he would say no. but when you watch him on -- with crowds that are very enthusiastic about him, and he feeds off of that energy, watching him and his 2010 campaign when he started off slow and once he was really hitting the ground, there was this energy and you

mitch daniels is on the ball. he has done a lot in the education system in our schools.has a voucher system, which does away with a lot of the legacy problem. they are able to work with the school does not raise the education. the people in indiana, once this system gets going good, will really appreciate it. some people in the inner cities have problems with education. they could do a lot better if they just moved out. or in just as easy to be poure some areas banned the inner city, and the school system is a lot better. [unintelligible] host: evanston, illinois, democrats line. caller: if our politicians would stop trying to get every penny of the tax payer dollars to big businesses, perhaps we could put more money in the schools and help cover children get better educated. host: what would that help with and how would it change things? caller: every time a business comes here in illinois, our government is willing to privatize. perhaps he gets money from the company, but the schools do not. i have a grandson in school. we are lucky if we can get a book. they are sent

mitch daniels has been a successful governor appeared in. i think there will be more success stories to come in indiana. i think one advantage republicans have that is really under rated is we focus on speeches and rhetoric, but one thing republicans were able to say in 2010 is we had an experiment over the past several years. president obama, nancy pelosi, harry reid pursued liberal policies. some republicans around the country have come -- pursued conservative policy. rick perry in texas. chris christy in new jersey. others are doing it around the country. let's look at the data and see which is working out vaderbetter. i think republicans will have a very good story to tell at the patrol level in 2012 paren and. 2. it is -- it means it is not just talk. it helped reagan a lot that he had been governor of a huge state for two terms. here you have a governor to were governing now in the current budget crunch. president obama says you cannot cut the budget. rick perry is making thidoing this in texas. chris christie just came to a deal with

mitch daniels is on the ball. he has done a lot in the education system in our schools.as a voucher system, which does away with a lot of the legacy problem. they are able to work with the school does not raise the education. the people in indiana, once this system gets going good, will really appreciate it. some people in the inner cities have problems with education. they could do a lot better if they >> see "washington journal" in its entirety at c-span.org we are going to the canadian house of commons for its question period. we understand that prime minister stephen harper is not available to take questions today, as he is visiting the victims of recent floods in quebec. >> on the campaign trail, the prime minister said he was going to have to work with all members of the house, but in the speech, there is no change of tone new. what happened to the government's willingness to work together? [applause] >> to speaker, i would like to congratulate the new opposition leader. he was very successful in the election, and we can see the results here in this speech. we repe

governor mitch daniels reaped a windfall from the 2006 lease of the indiana toll road that netted histate $3.8 billion for new transportation upgrades. most of the money has now been reinvested in highway projects throughout his state and leaders shrewdly placed $500 million in an interest-bearing account to fund future road projects. this is one of the many reasons why the indiana economy has grown as twice the rate of illinois economy. now, we have seen public-private partnerships take off not in our own country where they were almost invented but in other countries, especially british columbia, and australia, where they have mobilized over $30 billion for new transportation infrastructure, almost 20% of their total, using this innovative financing means. in these times of deficit and debt, we could let america grind to a halt, we could raise taxes and sock it to the working poor, we could slow down our economy with a new government burden, or we could recall our own economic legacy. written by abraham lincoln's administration itself to use public-private partnerships as a way of gr

mitch daniels would be one, the governor of indiana. he declined because his family was so uncomfortable with the idea of standing out under the scrutiny that you're talking about, putting the family in the glare of the spotlight and having absolutely picked apart as it i this days. and that is before you even get to where you start solving all of these problems, which are a long list. guest: this is why we have elections. the best part of all that is that it is an even playing field. everyone's side has to play on the same turf fothe economic situation is not different for any republican candidate or a democratic candidate. the scrutiny that they all go under is all the same. it is a test of the candidates just have to cover. host: does the president enjoyed campaigning? guest: he would say no. but when you watch him on -- with crowds that are very enthusiastic about him, and he feeds off of that ergy, watching him and his 2010 campaign when he started off slow and once he was really hitting the ground, there was this energy and you co