s originally mitch daniels perfect who they call it healthy indiana. >> you've done a good job of getting into the patient. a lot of people outside the state don't see is most doctors won't take it. it's a loss leader. hospitals want you to but they don't smeal it. >> then you can talk about dentists and the rest. >> so there isn't -- there's a huge access problem. and i think by giving states the ability to craft reform that are unique fur our states. we had those are two i'm pretty particular with. >> we can do a much better job of getting people. not just insurance but hair care. it is a program with dies physical program. it's a proper that the pro ider is struggle withen. let me step back and ask you a final big picture question here. transitions are a. how optimistic are you? you can get there and what's the timetable? how fast, how slow, how difficult. >> whether these changeses and whether it's welfare. take time. >> we're working on a an griessive today. were. and the trump administration to try to flesh out what we think is a realistic timetable so that we get the legs prep and

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mitch daniels, when he became governor he turned the culture of the job of state government help businessesw jobs, be successful. mike pence on his first day in office he issued an executive order freezing all proposed regulations. so the it has been a different approach that helped indiana grow and improve its business climate ranking from 28th, 12, 14 years ago, fifth best in the country and number one in the midwest. liz: indiana has big names like eli lilly and anthem. a lot of big companies. we're watching it. thank you, kevin. >> anytime. liz: the indiana chamber of commerce ceo and president. we're six 1/2 minutes away from the closing bell. you're seeing a lot of records on the screen one of them. dow is up 63 points. it cut in half the gains. we still stand at 19,610. less than four points away from dow 20,000. it is not a spoonful of sugar you but venom that made medicine go down. pharmaceuticals tumbled after president-elect donald trump slammed many high drug prices. but my next guest says health care stocks are still the best medicine. buy beaten down. his names next on "countd

originally the mitch daniels person, the architect of healthy indiana, which has done a very getting access. the thing a lot of people out of states don't see, doctors won't it, you can talk about dentists and the rest. problema huge access and i think by giving states the ability to craft reforms that are unique to their states. we have badger care in wisconsin . we can do a better job of getting people affordable health , not just toss insurance, but health care. that is the problem with medicaid right now. it is a program with dire fiscal providerand the community is struggling with. moderator: we are about out of time so let me step back and ask you a final big picture question here, transitions are a time for confusion and optimism. how optimistic are you can get there that you can get and what is the timetable? how fast, how slow, how difficult to get from here to the kind of changes you are talking about? mr. ryan: the big changes, whether health care or welfare take time. the legislative process, we have an aggressive timetable for 2017. the sitting with mitch mcconnell and t

neil: mitch daniels.case you haven't noticed, very few parts of the country are about not to notice, we have some of the coldest weather of the season hitting virtually the entire country. an arctic blast the size we haven't seen in years. this covers everybody outside after small hamlet in florida. outside of that everybody. more after this. >> jeff flock on the floor of cme in chicago with the fox business brief. oil holding up $50 as we speak here. the news, today, on opec, actually, bringing prices down. that is because of decreasing optimism and owe pec and non-opec producers will hold to production cut. the chart looks not too good after run-up. you would have thought prices would be up because eia report was very bullish. 1.3 million barrels of drawdown was expected. it was double that. that would normally drive prices up. not today, overshadowed by the opec price deal. gasoline last week, it was 2.15. last year, $2.02. jeff flock in chicago. mr. cavuto returns. neil: all right. stocks are hot. the

you talk to mitch daniel, what he did when he leased the interstate, got the cash and built in ohio outside the federal regulations and john kasich found federal money. five governors, all of whom get stuff at 40% of the cost ahead of schedule. and now you take those rules. i just did a thing today with phillip henry who is -- who's probably the best thinker on regulatory reform in the country. if we took federal state and local regulars, put them into one office and did them concurrently, you probably saved two-thirds of the time it currently takes to build something. >> look, this is going to be your role. you do have a role in this administration. that's what you -- >> i have a role as a citizen in the country. >> that's what i mean. >> it's in the country. it's it's the legislators, 34 governors. >> but you will be that special adviser that hopefully brings the ideas in. >> i hope so. that's why i come to your show. the most efficient way to give advice is on your show. >> i'll take it. >> when we come night. this is next. >>> my administration will be focussed on three very important w

mitch daniels did it at perdue. they have -- purdue. company, sorry, college should do that. one way to get control of costs. a lot of colleges have multimillion-dollar, some have billion dollar endowments. melissa: right. >> why not use endowments to lower tuition cost? melissa: 10billion dollars here we'll pay it, steve -- 108. >> not like we have a bilge debt. oh, yeah, we have big debt, $20 trillion. melissa: i will jump out the window behind me. i actually can't. connell: it is not that far down. we have, this is another actually distressing story coming up in a moment. it's a joke, guys. she is not going to jump. secret refugee deal. i can't really believe this story. wait until you hear coming up in a moment. thousands of refugees from terrorism hot spots around on their way here to the united states. lawmakers are not get answers who they are. we'll get as many as we can next. ♪ approaching medicare eligibility? you may think you can put off checking out your medicare options until you're sixty-five, but now is a good time to ge

the cms director was originally the mitch daniels person, the architect of healthy indiana, which has done a very good job of getting access. -- health care to the poor that they can actually get and access. the problem with medicaid that a lot of people outside of states do not see is most doctors will not take it. it is a loss leader. the hospitals have to, but they don't want it, and a lot of doctors will not take it. then you can talk about dentists , and the rest. so, there is a huge access problem, and i think by giving states the ability to craft reforms that are unique to their states, like we have badger care in wisconsin, healthy indiana, those are two i am familiar with. we can do a better job of getting people affordable health care and access, not just to insurance, but health care. and that is the problem with medicaid right now. it is a program with dire fiscal problems, and it is a program that the provider community is struggling with. mr. seib: we are running just about out of time so let me step , back and ask you a final big picture question here, which is, you kno

before continuing on a little coach k, i want to talk about the current president of purdue, mitch daniels, who moved the university into the future with a new business model of innovation and leadership. president mitch is a leader who is not afraid of change and i admire that because change, without change tomorrow you lose. our senior year, mr. vital on tv picked our team -- vitale on tv picked our team last because we lost our best player to the nba draft. i went to the coach's office before the season and i asked him, how do you feel about this team? do you believe we're going to be last? he said, no, we're not going to be last. i said, how do you know, coach? how do you know? he said because i like my locker room. what does that mean? i know you all are going to listen to me. and you'll follow what i say. i know you'll share the ball and i know you'll outwork the competition. well, of course coach was right. we went from being picked last to winning the big ten. his first of six big ten championships in 25 years at purdue, four consensus national coach of the year, six national coach

you had mitch daniels on yesterday and he said it right, which is you cannot go your way out of this problem but you can't fix a problem unless you grow the economy. focusing on economic growth through things like tax reform, which are different than tax cuts means changing the way we tax in this country to make us more competitive. smart regulatory reforms, smart shift in spending to investment and importantly a sustainable fiscal policy where these things are paid forward and we bring our debt down is that about. the comprehensive growth. who contribute willot fix anon at code. we had kind of a free lunch discussion as though there are no hard choices. that's not true. we have a lot of choices in our budget or market have to come to terms withhem. otherwise we'll create a big government debt bubble that will hurt the markets and the economy. neil: i find it annoying that you attempt to shove reality back in my face. maybe you can educate me on whether we can do this again with no clinton. he didn't instantly eradicate the debt. we ran surpluses, but the key in those early years to

you know, our former governor, my friend mitch daniels, former governor of indiana, and the current president of purdue university fam famously said yol be amazed by how much government you'll never miss. indiana has set the example with significant cuts in reforms in spending. to take our state from a deficit to a $2.4 billion surplus. significant cuts in many agencies through the growing of bureaucracy that took place, and we have yet to find what parts of government that we miss. there are so many programs and so many ridiculous things that the government funds, like rabbit massages, like cosmetic hair loss treatment that most americans have never heard of and while i know -- no longer will be here, i'm hopeful that the next president and congress will work in tandem to achieve these goals. they can use my 55 "waste of the week" examples as a starting point they can continue because we have just scratched the surface. so today i'd like to add $48 million to our total, and just in this cycle of the senate alone, we have come up with a grand total of $351,635,239,536, money that can be used

this is what mitch daniels did in indiana and john kasich in ohio and bill haviland in tennessee, brought women with business experience who would work on something like the tax bill and leave government, get out and partly that is what he is trying to do and wilbur ross. stuart: would you say you are pleasantly surprised with trump's cabinet pick? >> more than personally surprised. jim addison, this close to becoming defense secretary and jim matus, hero of iraq, commander of central command and the middle east, knows the area. couldn't think of a better pick. i more than plainly surprised at how it has been going. stuart: read all about it in the wall street journal, the headline from dan hettinger. thank you very much. i want to get back to some news, not exactly breaking news but this is important. mortgage rates have gone up and we are above 4 person. ashley: just a tick, 4.08% but that represent the highest level in 16 months for the average rate you get on a 30 year mortgage, 3.93% a year ago, not screening hire but the trend is to move up as our other loans. stuart: interest rates

the new cms director was o originally mitch daniel's person the architect of healthy indiana, which has done a very good job getting health care to the poor they can actually get and access. the problem with medicaid a lot of people outside of states don't see is most doctors won't take it. it's a loss leader. the hospitals have to but they don't want it. doctors, a lot of doctors won't take it. then you can talk about dentists and the rest. there is a huge access problem. i think by giving states the ability to craft reforms that are unique to their states like we have badger care in wisconsin, healthy indiana. those are two i'm familiar with. we can do a much better job actually getting people, not just affordable health care but actual access to health, not just insurance but health care. that is a problem with medicaid right now. it is a problem with dire fiscal problems. it's a problem the provider community is struggling with. >> we're running just about out of time. let me step back and ask you a final big picture question here which is this -- transitions are a time for confusio

particularly an important one, the guy in charge of the senate agenda, mitch mcconnell, the republican leader. the new york post daniel halpern on what if anything we might see as a result. what mitch mcconnell has said is he wants everything to be revenue neutral which tax cuts at face value are not unless you are scoring dynamically. we see out of them in the first hundred days, what are we hearing? >> a recognition on capitol hill, $20 trillion in debt and donald trump has an ambitious plan for $20 trillion interest plan, and all these things cost money and therefore we can't lose money, can't pay the bills and deal with the debt and obligations at hand. it is a negotiating tactic. and believe in tax cut and i don't think mitch mcconnell can turn down the tax cuts but there is a belief, rines priebus said earlier today tax reform will be a huge issue, top priority for the trump administration, and closing some loopholes. and offset this to allow tax breaks. >> you pay for the infrastructure. and conservative republicans, let's make it revenue neutral over several years, and compromise revenue into washington but sc