i'm joined by former indiana governor and president of purdue university, mitch daniels. he's championed the idea of public and private partnerships to offset infrastructure costs and the former head of the office of manager and budget. so he knows this. good to see you, mitch. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> you were a guy in the federal government and while we all sit here and we have this great opening about the state of the union and a countdown clock, you think the whole thing is a bit of a waste of time. >> i honestly twdo. i think we had it right for the first years of the republican when the president sent a message -- a written message to congress and woodrow wilson changed that and i don't think for the better. and especially the last couple of decades, it has become sort of theater in a ritual. i think people perform thor the cameras. i don't think it reflected on the process. in my opinion it is not a good use of time and money and they ought to dispense with the whole thing. i hope for a long time somebody would become president and

there is one group called imagine schools which was shut down in st louis who has connections to mitch daniels they have a scheme a real estate scheme where they basically jack up the rent and the nonprofit they have handpicked passes all of it through and some of the schools don't even have books it's that bad so the money is funneled upward the people running the schools are making i don't know about imagine that some of these people are making half a million dollars a year or more there's some charter franchise across america i mean they're raking in these c.e.o.'s are raking in millions of dollars public money to run these jurors so people don't understand that dynamic as well. precisely and you mentioned indiana that's the focus of your book on the hoosier school heist but as i understand it the constitution is a constitution of indiana doesn't really allow for the state to actually. fund nonpublic schooling so how are the people of indiana responding to this this recent venture into about churches and charter programs. well there are arguments is that the money follows the child ok so it

there is one group called imagine schools which is shut down in st louis who has connections to mitch daniels they have a scheme a real estate scheme where they basically jack up the rent and the nonprofit they have handpicked passes all of it through and some of the schools don't even have books it's that bad so the money is funded upward the people running the schools are making i don't know about magic to some of these people are making half a million dollars a year or more there's some charter franchise across america i mean they're raking in these c.e.o.'s are raking in millions of dollars public money to run these jurors so people don't understand that dynamic as well. precisely and you mentioned indiana that's the focus of your book on the hoosier school heist but as i understand it the constitution is a constitution of indiana doesn't really allow for the state to actually. fund nonpublic schooling so how are the people of indiana responding to this this recent venture into about jurors and charter programs. well there are arguments is that the money follows the child ok so it is for

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there is one group called imagine schools which was shut down in st louis who has connections to mitch danielsthey have a scheme a real estate scheme where they basically jack up the rent and the nonprofit they have handpicked passes all of it through and some of the schools don't even have books it's that bad so the money is funneled upward the people running the schools are making i don't know about imagine that some of these people are making half a million dollars a year or more there's some charter franchise across america i mean they're raking in these c.e.o.'s are raking in millions of dollars public money to run these jurors so people don't understand that dynamic as well. precisely and you mentioned indiana that's the focus of your book on the hoosier school heist but as i understand it the constitution is a constitution of indiana doesn't really allow for the state to actually. fund nonpublic schooling so how are the people of indiana responding to this this recent venture into about churches and charter programs. well there are arguments is that the money follows the child ok so it

host: daniel newhauser, what is your sense of how this meeting goes at camp david? seems like mitch mcconnell is try to convey the political realities facing him. the biggest change in the senate will be that his majority has slammed from 52 republicans to 51. they could barely get the tax bill done. obviously, they failed on the obamacare repeal. told reportershe at his year-end press conference, that changes a lot. when it comes to entitlement reforms, whatever they might be, it will be hard to get any democrats on board. i expect him to try to convey that. paul ryan has been a big think kind of leader. for him, you know, he may try, as he said he will, to the these, but he is facing some hurdles in his own chamber, too. a lot of house republicans will be kind of scared off by the prospects of touching entitlements in an election year. guest: yeah. guest: the 51 majority in the senate and the fact that it is an election year will cover almost everything. see how high some of these totals are for paul ryan and mitch mcconnell and some of the short-term deadlines and fiscal fights.

, ohio and that race, specifically, daniel, your colleagues at politico reporting that hill billy author, jaime vance is being encouraged to run against brown by mitch mcconnell and other republicans. you have jim running for the same seat by trump's team. do you think this could be another match up within the gop and the rift that could develop? >> like alabama. >> exactly. >> i don't think it will be as dirty as alabama. in ohio, they may be nicer to each other. if vance wins, it could be an interesting race. they have both yale grads. he doesn't have that much political experience or experience on the stump. it's very hard, sometimes, to transition from being a best selling, new york times best telling author to a senate candidate going against someone like sharrod brown with $10 million in the bank and is popular in the state and has taken care of his state. i don't know if vance would be the next senator, but this would definitely inject himself into the political atmosphere for next time. >> i feel like there's going to be more and more match ups like this in the next ten months or so. >> a lot of opportunities on both sides of the aisle. >> t

mitch mcconnell made this promise 17 days from now. can you remember what happened 17 days ago? i can't. i'm guessing, in two days, we're going to forget the name "stormy daniels." ( laughter ) that was the hurricane that spanked the gulf coast, right? ( laughter ) i can't remember. >> jon: oh! >> stephen: it was a mess. that's all i remember. but maybe the democrats didn't get rolled. this is how democracy works. everybody gives up something. everybody gets something. and the president understands that all parties needed to save face to work together in the future, so he stayed respectfully silent. i'm just kidding. ( laughter ) he emailed: "democrats caved." wait a second -- there's a cave? can we all fit in there? is there enough food and water for the next three years? ( cheers and applause ) and attacks like that aren't going to help finding a bi-partisan solution. neither is this ad trump ran over the weekend. >> president trump is right: build the wall. deport criminals. stop illegal immigration now. democrats who stand in our way will be complicit in every murder committed by illegal immigrants. >> stephen: now that was subtle ( laughter ) but i think

daniel dale is also with us. adam, how do you see this play unfolding on the senate floor tonight? >> one of the things you're seeing tonight is more manipulation by mitch mcconnell because one of the secrets of the senate is it can move very fast when it wants to. the bill that came over from the house could be voted on tonight. but they're trying to show they can defeat it and leave another day in negotiations. and a day in negotiation terms, especially this close to a deadline is eons. so mitch mcconnell is preventing a vote from happening. he's trying to hold the vote open till tomorrow because he thinks it will put more pressure on them. this is a manufactured shutdown by the republicans. >> here is the most extraordinary thing i have ever heard a senate leader say in a situation like this. here's mitch mcconnell saying tonight on the senate floor that he does not know what the president wants. let's listen to this. >> the presidency, under our constitutional system is not irrelevant. he's the person who signs things into law. and for most of us in the house and senate on the republican side, we're interested in what his views are. and those have n

host: daniel newhauser, what is your sense of how this meeting goes at camp david? seems like mitchcconnell is try to convey the political realities facing him. the biggest change in the senate will be that his majority has slammed from 52 republicans to 51. they could barely get the tax bill done. obviously, they failed on the obamacare repeal. told reportershe at his year-end press conference, that changes a lot. when it comes to entitlement reforms, whatever they might be, it will be hard to get any democrats on board. i expect him to try to convey that. paul ryan has been a big think kind of leader. for him, you know, he may try, as he said he will, to the these, but he is facing some hurdles in his own chamber, too. a lot of house republicans will be kind of scared off by the prospects of touching entitlements in an election year. guest: yeah. guest: the 51 majority in the senate and the fact that it is an election year will cover almost everything. see how high some of these totals are for paul ryan and mitch mcconnell and some of the short-term deadlines and fiscal fights. wa

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