. >> host: mitch daniels, former governor of indiana, is running purdue. janet napolitano, former governor of arizona is running uing-cal. what's the benefit of being a governor in that position? >> guest: you know, first of all, when i was a governor, i had higher education in the budget, and so i was used to dealing with it from that level. but, you know, large public universities are complex organizations. they have some similarities to running a state. you've got to deal with the legislature, the media, various constituencies. it's a very public role. it is political with a small p because you've got to, you know, engender support for the institution and be out there cheering for it. so it's, it is a job with some similarities. >> host: janet napolitano, some of the speakers that -- at uc-berkeley, milo yiannopoulos, ben shapiro, was that handled well by the university, in your view. >> >> guest: i think overall it was. i think that milo's first appearance there were protesters -- not primarily from the campus, not students, but off campus -- who disru

we enjoyed hudson presence in indiana for a time, the former omb director mitch daniels became governor of indiana. in the meantime bailey word hudson to come to the middle of the country to get a different perspective perhaps somewhat we get on the coast. you were there for a number of years and had the privilege of working with people. we understand why you came back here and a lot of that is what happens here. some of your employees might be missing the ease of living and cost-of-living, not to mention the commute to work. nevertheless it's very nice to be able to be here with you and lay some groundwork for one of the top challenges we face in terms of threat to our country. our people and processes. before i sit down with walter, i'd like to focus on the growing threat to our nation's security. i think to put it in the context of the current cyber threat in terms of the threats we've had in historical context and define who is most responsible and what are they attempting to do and then discuss the intelligence community's response to that. each morning when i get up i'm given a ro

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mitch daniels said no if you want to come to this institution, prepare to be exposed to ideas that may be unfulchino to you. there are exafting doing the wrong thing. that can have scary consequences down the road. >> for conservatives this is a genuinely important issue. free speech and freedom of thought can be eroded. i worry a lot about that. that is where conservatives i think need to be extremely firm and strong and make the case for free speech and against this worrying about whether people are offended. the left being offended is not for conservatives to decide. we want a risk with big risk debate and free speech and people get offended. that is part of living in a free country. place where conservatives can win. what is happening really is bad on campuses and in high schools for that matter in terms of not reading certain books because people might get trigger and all. that that is a fight worth fighting. the people making the decisions are often the baby boomers. >> speaking of suppressing speech, i do not want to do that on this panel. a bunch of you have been handing questi

the former omb director mitch daniels became governor of indiana. in the meantime we word hudson to come to the middle of the country to get a different perspective perhaps than what we get from a on the coast, you were there for a number of years and hador the privilege of working with people there. we understand why you came back here, moving it to more foreign policy focused stuff and a lot of that is what happens here, but we do appreciate the fact that you still value indiana, some of your employees might be missing the cost of living in indiana not to mention the commute to work. nevertheless it's very nice to be here with you. : : : groundwork for what i the top challenge that we face in terms of threats to our country, people, and processes. before you sit down and talk about a range of political facet we face, i would like to focus my initial remarks on the glowing -- growing cyber threat to our nation security. to our nation's security and specifically like to put it in the context of the current cyber threat in terms of the threats we hav

someone like mitch daniels at perdue who said, no, you want to come to this institution, prepared to be exposed to ideas that are unfamiliar to you and that may be uncomfortable. there are examples of adults doing the right thing. there are also examples of kids learning the wrong lessons. >> this is a genuinely important issue. free speech and freedom of thought can be eroded more quickly than people think. in a modern democracy -- i worry a lot about that. that is where conservatives need to be firm and make the case for free speech, and make the case against this excessive worrying about whether people are offended by certain kinds of speech. the answer is not for conservatives to decide they are equally triggered and offended. it is to say we want a country with free speech were people are being offended. that is part of living in a free country. that is an issue conservatives can win. it is dangerous to go down the road of curtailing speech, curtailing education. what is happening is bad, and campuses, and in high schools in terms of not reading books because people are triggere

the former director mitch daniels became governor of indiana. in the meantime, to move to the middle of the country to get a different perspective than what we had on the coast. i had the privilege of working with the people there, we understand where you came back here, moving into more foreign policy focused staff, that is what happens -- stuff, that is what happens here. but we do appreciate the fact that you still value indiana. some of your employees may be missing the ease of living and cost of living in indiana, relative to washington, not to mention the commute to work. nevertheless, it is very nice of me to be able to be here with you and just to lay some groundwork for what i think is one of the, if not the top challenge that we face, in terms of threats to our country, our people and our processes in the future. so before i sit down with walter global about a range of threats that we face, i would like to focus my initial remarks on the growing cyber threat to our nation's security. specifically, i would like to put it in the context

. >> mitch daniels former governor of indiana is running purdue janet napolitano running u call, what'sthat position? >> you know, when -- first of all when i was a governor, i had higher education. in the budget, and so i was used to dealing with it from that level. but -- you know, large public universities are complex organizations. they have some similarities to running state you have to deal with the the legislature, the media, various constituencies that is a very public role. it is political with a small p. because you've got, you know, in jeaned support for the ?iews and be out there cheering for it so it's -- it is a job with some similarities. >> janet nam knapp pan some of the speakers at milo -- ben shapiro was that handled well? >> i think overall it was. i think in milo's first appearance, there were protesters not -- not primarily from the campus not to offcampus who disrupted it and -- he had to be removed for his own safety. and we learned a lot from that event. so that by -- the time ben shapiro came and milo came, a second time, we had a better security plan. we had i

mitch daniels is here, former governor of indiana. he wrote that headline in "the washington post."s great to see you again, sir. welcome back. >> hi, stuart. stuart: you are referring to the real crisis in the payment of pensions to retired government workers in california, illinois, new jersey, new york and, yes, connecticut. i read your article. there's no solution here, is there? we can't pay. >> first of all, i'm not picking on connecticut uniquely. i was observing the historical irony that the protection for the solvent states is the u.s. senate, ultimately, if there's an attempt to nationalize these debts as i think there may be, and that happened to be the connecticut compromise. their delegates to the convention created it. but they're just one of, as you anticipated, a number of states including some of the biggest states that are in deep water. i think it is irretrievable. pensions is the core of it. it's not the only fiscal recklessness that they have practiced. but it is, in some of those cases the bills are genuinely unpayable. stuart: what's the end game? if the bills

daniels whiskey. >> wait a second, meacham, are you okay there? can we get oxygen for meacham? >> i'm not sure if they're aiming at john meacham or mitch mcconnell. one of the two of you anyway. how do you conduct diplomacy without allies when you're simultaneously conducting a trade war against them. >> and youed and s could say th thing and couldn't you, david ignatius, united states conducting a trade war with china and we need china to help north korea move towards denuclearization. a that's certainly not happening. >> president trump needs to prioritize. there's nothing more important for white houses than to decide what is the thing that we want to achieve. and that's why we have a national security council to organize policy so it all goes in the direction of success of the primary objective. that's one thing this group in a year and a half doesn't seem to have learned at all. >> they also don't understand and we can say this, i mean, certainly, people like mike pompeo and general mattis understand it better than most anybody in washington, but donald trump and several others, john, don't understand that it's a very complex, com