mitch daniels. you have so many different hats that you have worn. is this $735 billion spending plan, does it make you feel more optimistic or less optimistic? >> up reluctant to anything that expresses the intent to reduce our debt and deficit. that's a stated intention of this bill. it's about time someone offered one with that goal. i have to say i'm not sure will accomplish it. i agree with those who don't see it having an anti-inflation effect anytime soon. maybe a reasonable goal by one of its proponents. but i'm not sure they have the right means. brian: this is the one thing i want to get you to. you are on a college campus. everyone talked about green and climate change. the investment in climate and green energy. your thoughts? >> i thought we don't need to be spending $360 billion more dollars on anything right now. if the advocates of this bill are really serious they would concentrate on spending reduction and debt reduction in the near term. the incredible injustice that we are going to do to today's young people, they are the ones on

. >> the bottom-up approach it all has also to of interesting options and mitch daniels has completedenure at purdue and has not raised tuition for over ten years, better outcomes, low-cost states like tennessee are providing incentives for kids on the merit basis to earn credits in a low-cost way it seems like you're punishing those doing the innovative work to allow the federal government involvement of the student loan program to take away incentive for innovation. >> that is right and every opportunity to support these innovations in meaningful ways that will not penalize the innovation and will not keep rewarding those that are doing the same thing the same way with less results. >>ry the term woke i did not know until about five years ago that is an interesting topic in our universities today. and the institutions themselves you were secretary when this hold on —- to call then to become much more relevant all across the country. how dodo we deal with focus to make sure universities are places where there is inquiry where the views are challenged ratherwe than being indoctrinated

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>> university of chicago but then to be under of mitch daniels the president we should have had.made this happen let's be clear. so. >> 's and i have so many questions and people are asking you that to never have been a part of that in the cruise office so how do you choose? obviously the history is a wonderful resource we arrived this every day there is so that that is the most commonly asked question and it is the question iai want to begin as a columnist to ask my friend bill buckley. how you come up with things to write about and he said the world irritates me three times a week and it peaks my curiosity. the world is that it was - - littered with things to write about but he could not look at the landscape you cannot look at the world that way they just come at you. host: what is the difference writing about politics and speaking about it? they are completely different things but yet closely related. >> writing is demanding and writing columns is particularlyso so i'm here strictly at a 750 word limit which means you have to be concise and elliptical and intimate certain thi

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as usual perdue university under mitch daniels the president we should have had would in the -- and made it absolutely clear free speech lives in lafayette or wherever it is. >> host: i imagine it gives you an opportunity at some of the conversations with people asking you things like i may have been in the office want upon a time. how do you choose with all the incoming information? obviously it's a wonderful resource that there are so many choices. >> guest: that's unusual. most people say gee how do you come up with things to write about? that the most frequently asked question is a columnist. how do you come up with things to write about? the world or a three times a week. i'd like to say the world irritates me amuses me and peaks might curiosity. the world is better with things to write about. he could not look at a landscape without seeing the battlefield. if you're columnist got to be able to look at the world. they just come at you. >> host: would he think is the differenceit between writing abt politics and speaking about it? there are completely different things that are closel

as usual purdue university under mitch daniels, the president we should have had but a great president of purdue university, has made this absolutely clear. free-speech. madison lives in west lafayette or wherever it is. drama okay. i imagine all your call in writing to the applicants have so many conversations, and people ask you to write things. how do you choose when you all this incoming information and the history is a wonderful resource for taking the most important thing to write every day. there's so many choices. >> guest: that's unusual for you to say those people say howdy come up with things to write about? that's the most commonly asked question of a columnist and it's the question i when i began as a columnist asked my friend bill buckley, said howdy come you come up with things to write about? i would say the world irritates me, i musically, piques my curiosity. the world is just littered with things to write about. it was said of napoleon that he could not look at a landscape without seeing a battlefield. if a conus yacht to be able to come you cant look at the work wit

i mean you look at our friend mitch daniels who? has completed his tenure at purdue a great university. he is not raised tuition for how many years now eight over 10 years 10 years. sure. i mean at the his whole time in office better outcomes low costs states like tennessee are providing incentives for for kids on merit-based basis to to earn credits in a very low cost way florida has very low tuition. it seems like you're punishing the people that are doing the innovative work by by allowing the federal governments involvement in the student loan program to take away the incentives for innovation. yeah. absolutely. that's absolutely right and there is every opportunity to really support a lot of these innovations in in meaningful ways that are not going to penalize the innovation and and are not going to keep rewarding those that keep doing the same thing the same way and providing less results for students. so the term wokeness a term that i didn't know until about four or five years ago is a very interesting topic on our in our u

i mean you look at our friend mitch daniels who? has completed his tenure at purdue a great university. he is not raised tuition for how many years now eight over 10 years 10 years. sure. i mean at the his whole time in office better outcomes low costs states like tennessee are providing incentives for for kids on merit-based basis to to earn credits in a very low cost way florida has very low tuition. it seems like you're punishing the peo florida has very low tuition. things like you're punishing the people that are doing the innovative work by allowing the federal government's involvement in the student loan program to take away incentives for innovation. >> absolutely right. and there is every opportunity to support lot of these innovations in meaningful ways that are not going to penalize the innovation and not going to keep rewarding those that keep doing the same thing the same way and providing less results for students. >> the term woke that i didn't know until 4 or 5 years ago is a very interesting topic in our universitie

i mean you look at our friend mitch daniels who? has completed his tenure at purdue a great university. he is not raised tuition for how many years now eight over 10 years 10 years. sure. i mean at the his whole time in office better outcomes low costs states like tennessee are providing incentives for for kids on merit-based basis to to earn credits in a very low cost way florida has very low tuition. it seems like you're punishing the people that are doing the innovative work by by allowing the federal governments involvement in the student loan program to take away the incentives for innovation. yeah. absolutely. that's absolutely right and there is every opportunity to really support a lot of these innovations in in meaningful ways that are not going to penalize the innovation and and are not going to keep rewarding those that keep doing the same thing the same way and providing less results for students. so the term wokeness a term that i didn't know until about four or five years ago is a very interesting topic on our in our u

another person that is also out is mitch daniels who is running perdue. are you kidding?and that loan forgiveness should not happen. >> steve: ryan shul went to a community college because he couldn't afford a four year university he told fox business this: they are trying to buy votes. a lot of people feel like that. they are trying to buy as many votes as they can taxpayer dollars and they don't really care about the working class. they don't care. they don't even care about the students. if they truly were going to help these kids, then they would change the cause of all of this debt. great point. >> ainsley: and every age group is different. i'm in an age group where we are saving for college. you have already paid for your kids' college. when you are in that age group, when you are in my age group you are thinking i'm trying to save for my own children. if you are in your age group are thinking i worked so hard tirelessly. got to the top level in your industry, you worked every single morning. you missed taking them to school. you did all of that as a sacrifice for t

daniel, you talk about folks that trump has backed. here is what mitchthink it is an overwhelming likelihood the wind will be at our back and that's obviously very important. i want to share what mcconnell said this week. >> i think there is probably a greater likelihood the house flips than the senate. candidate quality has a lot to do with the outcome. >> the first part is just a fact, right? there is a greater likelihood the house flips than the senate. the candidate quality comment, mitch mcconnell watches his words very closely. he's not loose with what he's saying there. and what he was alluding to i think has a lot of truth to some degree. is he lowering expectations there, kind of embracing a reality right now for republican candidates in the senate? >> i think it's a combination of both. he's kind of throwing those herschel walkers, mehmet ozes, under the bus. these are not candidates he necessarily wanted, in terms of entertainment and sports stars, those are not the types of pima connell likes to surround himself with in the senate. they're un