mitch landrieu is the guy who struggled over it, talked to lonnie, i'm sure, talked to me, talked to wynton marsalis about what to do and he did the right things. these things aren't melted down into bullets. they're in museums. we interpret, interpret, interpret. this is what this man spends his life doing. that's what we've got to do. and nothing's been erased. nothing has been erased. and the problem is that sometimes there is a tendency on the other side to want to erase. and to say you can't say this anymore or you can't talk about that. we've got to continue to talk about nathan bedford forrest, but do we have to name a high school after him? i don't think so. >> so we should also note, i think it was this past year, that mississippi finally changed its flag, correct? >> correct. >> took a while. >> i do want to bring in the audience to a couple of polling questions we pulled together to get a sense of where everyone's head is and that can give us another jumping-off point for the conversation. there's an idea of being included in the narratives. audience, you'll see this quest

joining me, mitch landrieu, former mayor of new orleans, my home state.have two louisiana boys, i can say that, natives, talk about this thing. thank you for doing this, okay? let's show people how to do this, right? from the deep south where we know what's up. ron johnson on the insurrection. listen to this. >> oh, man. >> i'm also criticized because i made the comment that on january 6th i never felt threatened. because i didn't. and mainly because i knew even though those thousands of people that were marching to the capitol were trying to pressure people like me to vote the way they wanted me to vote, i knew those were people that love this country, that truly respect law enforcement, would never do anything to break a law. so i wasn't concerned. now had the tables been turned, joe, this could mean trouble. had the tables been turned and president trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of black lives matter and antifa protesters, i might have been a little concerned. >> does he understand? >> oh -- i mean, look. he almost -- if he was

so you can make some very simple descriptions and do -- mitch landrieu was the one who struggled a lot over it, talked to me, to wynton marcellus, and he did the right thing. these things aren't melted down into bullets or anything, they are in museums. we interpret, interpret interpret. this is what this man spends his life doing. that's what we have to do and nothing is been erased. nothing has been erased, and the problem is that on sometimes there is the tendency on the other side to erase. he can't say this anymore, or you can't talk about that. we have to continue to talk about nathan bedford force, but do we have to name a high school after him,? i don't think. so >> we should also know that it was just this past year that mississippi finally changed its flag correct? >> yes. >> it took a little while. and we want to bring in the audience to a couple of questions, just to get a sense of where everyone is headed. there's this idea of being included in the narratives. audience at, there you can see this question pop up on the screen, and we love to have you weigh in. once you see

mitch landrieu is the guy who struggled a lot and spoke to me and wynton marcellus about what to do,and did the right thing. these things are not melted down into bullets or anything. they are in museums, and we interpret. this is what this man spends his life doing. that's what we've got to do. and nothing has been erased. nothing has been erased, and the problem is that sometimes there is a tendency on the other side to want to erase and to say you can't say this anymore. we've got to continue to talk about nathan bedford forest. do we have to name a high school after him? i don't think so. >> we should also note, it was just the past year that mississippi finally changed its flag, correct? it took a little while. i want to bring in the audience for a couple of questions we pulled together, just to get a sense of where everyone's head is and that can give us another jumping off point for the conversation. there is the idea of being included in the narratives. you will see this question pop up on the screen, and then we love to have you weigh in. so want to see a pop-up, you'll see