i sort of was hoping mitch daniels would run, the governor of indiana, because he also is that sort of person. just a good manager, lowob done. and, frankly, as i look around the country, i see a lot of mayors and governors who are just like that who they're not big ideological people, they just like to get the job done. i think rahm emanuel in chicago's doing a good job, mayorville rosa in los angeles, a whole series of officials doing good government. >> host: so how is the president doing? >> guest: you know, i think i'm a little disappointed that he didn't do simpson-bowles, i was a little disappointed in the way the debt has run up, and i don't blame him for running up the debt in the recession, but i think we needed an exit strategy to get out of it. i think he could have done a little more to promote growth, though i think given all the bad things it was going to be tough no matter who was president, no matter who did anything. it was going to be tough to promote growth. so i don't particularly blame him for that. i think he's conducted himself in pretty much an honest way. he's had very little corruption. i st