mitch silva, would you go along with that?t certainly seems to me that these are people who have had either very good training or they just are unbelievably freakishly good at getting information from the internet. but you've got to say the former is the more realistic, isn't it? >> well, you know, "inspire" magazine had a specific issue devoted to how to make a device out of a pressure cooker. and, in fact, here in new york city, back in november of 2011, we had an individual follow that recipe to a t. and in his apartment in hamilton heights, the upper west side was building a bomb in the kitchen of his uncle, per se. and that bomb was going to be a pipe bomb. and essentially, you know, following the same type of recipe that the two brothers might have followed. so they may not have had experience overseas, but they probably did test it out somewhere else. we have seen other examples where zazi was going to attack the subway in 2009, he experimented in a hotel room in colorado, how to make a hydrogen peroxide device. individ