. >> i go back to the days of mitch snyder who was portrayed in a movie on his life. he was the last true homeless advocate. is there a need for an advocate for homeless people? >> absolutely. i mean, that's what we at the national law center of homelessness and poverty do. we serve as the legal home of the national movement to end homelessness and i would definitely argue that he was the last true advocate for the homeless population there. many people across the country -- >> in other words, he was the last big name. >> yeah. but there are a lot of people out there every day doing very good work, very hard work in their communities to try to reframe this issue as one of the major human rights crises of our time. we are -- today we are proud to say that we have the department of justice backing up in our lawsuit against the city of boise giving us opportunity to be out there and make a difference so that more people understand it's an unconstitutional approach and it puts more barriers between homeless people and getting out of homelessness. it's the most expensive a