let's find out from mitchell moss. he joins us now. welcome. it's nice to have you here. >> thank you. glad to be with you. >> i guess that is the question. how prevalent is this going to become, do you think? >> we should not generalize from san francisco. everyone loves the city of san francisco. it's beautiful. it's spectacular. the cab service has been terrible there. it's hard to hail a cab on the street. very expensive when you get in. it's no surprise that uber and lyft has taken over because the taxi industry has not been very responsive. >> what about chicago? >> it's a different case. there's been many different cabs. the first part to understand is that in chicago, there are so few people who want to drive a cab now that the mayor is having american idol kind of competition to get a cab driver and givie ining away a free medallion. the taxis have had a monopoly position and when people are getting better service and cost, they're preferring it. san francisco, i should point out, has had a bankruptcy filing because they have had milli