>> mitchell polman. i haven't heard much discussion here about the role of heroin trafficking in fuelling the taliban and fuelling insurgency and it is my understanding to what expect is the insurgency really about islam and driving out american and foreign forces and to what extent is it really about control of heroin? >> i mean, the heroin trade plays significant role in everything in afghanistan today. when you look at the afhgan economy, the domestic production, in other words, up to the borders, everything from farming to processing, is estimated to be worth about $4 billion, which is almost 40% of the entire afhgan economy or equal to more than 50% of the economy, not including drugs. so it it has an effect on everything. it has an effect on people's attitude toward the government. it has an effect on the economy. it has an effect on people's attitude toward foreign forces and the government in terms of programs eirradcasion and so on and effect on the taliban pocketbook there has been interesting