. >> and let me also say, i'm not saying they are similar situations, mitt romney and hillary clintondifferent boats. but i remember interviewing mitt romney half it became russia was number one foe when president trump mocked in 2012. and he wouldn't bite. he wouldn't say yeah, i was right. he thought it was important to not even go there. >> and i think it's for all the same reasons that jen just pointed out he did not want anything he said to become a burden that the party then had to relitigate over and over and over. and also he didn't want to takeaway a lot of the attention that is needed to repair the party and elevating other individuals as leader within the party. if the story was constantly in 2012 beyond the mitt romney come back story, the party was never going to evolve. and i think that's one of the reasons he did that. and i think jen pointed out the danger, that i've been saying for the last few weeks that hillary clinton is talking out there, she has the right to, but you have to recognize the consequences to having the party move on. >> i want to say everybody at hom

imagine if mitt romney had said this, i lost because of millions of resentful black people. >> he didafter he lost, he said the reason why i lost is because obama was willing to give the takers, and i wasn't. >> tucker: if he had said that millions of resentful people did not vote for me, i would say that that is discussing. that is an awful thing to say. i can't believe she said that. blaming people by their race? what is this. >> hillary clinton was not blaming people by their races specifically. making america great again, where did that come from? from mixing, literally, the campaign slogan of donald trump was the campaign slogan that richard nixon used it to divide people. it >> tucker: this is a pretty obvious one. >> the country is in decline, any people awake, it is also not a racist to note that rich people, liberals, by the way -- >> tucker: of the richer you are, the more liberal you are. there are some, but i am just saying overall -- they have a disproportionate amount of power. never has this power been concentrated like it is now. so it trump ran against all this. it di

inte not get mitt romney question mark let the president do his own due diligence.on, people had reservations about loyalty, but particularly given his ankle on china, i thought of smart. -- angle on china, i thought it was mark. -- smart. -- the president-elect spent a lot of time with each other. they have a similar outlook on the middle east, on russia, maybe not so much on china, but the middle east and russia we thought we'd be too hot areas. charlie: you are running against washington and the establishment and the people you are choosing to come in. >> some are establishment. some are anti-establishment. you have to stamp of government. maybe you get people in the second-tier or third tier, but you have to coach these people up. are not a lot of anti-establishment folks ready to step in as secretary of state. that decision was made that would not be rudy giuliani. he did six shows on billy bush sunday. he was the only person who went. he went out there. to me, he is a guy who will always have your back. on billy bush sunday -- charlie: you took names, didn't y

you work with mitt romney. mitt romney is the establishment person that bannon loathes; right?, he felt george bush let us down and wasn't a fan of romney. how will they fight back or will they fight back? >> i don't know that they're going to fight back. i think the reality is that they've got a tremendous number of people in congress who believe the sort of establishment world view. the challenge really, charles, is that there is a fundamental disagreement with a republican party. you do have this economic nationalism that some espoused strongly. and then you have others who believe differently. so there's a conflict within the party now. >> ford, i have to ask you. economic nationalism, it won over the heartland of america. people understand. it resonates with them because something has gone wrong with america over the last several decades. >> well, first of all, charles, it's good to be back on the air with you, my friend. and secondly, you're absolutely right. the middle of the country is the conditioning i. and while i disagree with bannon doing this interview for 60 minu

mitt romney had the most traction, he is the biggest hawk on china.m to at least have a shot to come in. we were looking at a broad range of people. we looked at general kelly, david petraeus. we looked at a wide range of people. why not get mitt romney in? let the president do his own due diligence. as we went on, people had reservations about loyalty, but particularly given his angle on china, i thought it was smart. charlie: rex tillerson comes from one of the biggest establishment companies in the world, exxon mobil. steve: he is a guy from texas, though. president -- elect -- president-elect spent a lot of time with each other. they have a similar outlook on the middle east, on russia, maybe not so much on china, but the middle east and russia we thought would be two very big hot areas. charlie: you are running against washington and the establishment and the people you are choosing to come in. steve: some are establishment. some are anti-establishment. you have to stand for government. maybe you get people in the second-tier or third tier, but y

and it's reported that he that are the reason mitt romney picked paul ryan as his v.p. pick was the relationship that the singer had with paul ryan and he did no one paul ryan to show up on a stage with trump and there are there's a lot of discussion right now in d.c. too about how how singer was also behind the. by the very least his political operation was and so this is interesting because. it was been discussed in the wall street journal that there were supposedly two donors who are behind this one republican one and one democrat one. but so far it hasn't really materialized who those who those people were my people in in around d.c. tell me very clearly it was paul singer that did the whole operation and he's very firmly expected to lose the election he also thought that the republicans would lose the senate and he was spent very heavily in the election to try to make sure that mr trump did not win even after trump won the nomination what's troubling is that a paul singer hedge fund manager he's into politics for capital gain and he's trying to subvert the politica

less than what mitt romney got 2012 and lost the popular vote by almost 3 million votes 46 percent did not vote if he lived in most countries saw the plan he would be back with the tv show right now and everyone would be happier including donald trump. but because of the vulnerability is he became president. so suddenly there was a rejection and then donald trump turned around and a similar strategy don't trust the people you're trusted up to this point they have them lying to you. so he got 46 percent of the vote which is more than 1. less than what mitt romney got 2012 and lost the popular vote by almost 3 million votes 46 percent did not vote if he lived in most countries saw the plan he would be back with the tv show right now and everyone would be happier including donald trump. but because of the vulnerability is he became president. one of the things i realized he is a great showman and it's great to rile people up the most modern candidates to realize that you can do say something else will bear risque and it says the best thing around. and that donald trump knows nothing. he k

mitt romney, former governor of the -- of massachusetts and presidential candidate tweeting -- president trump gave a strong and needed challenge to you and members to live up to its charter and to confront global challenges. we will get back to the phone lines. wayne, did you see the president's speech? what did you think? rocket man, the nickname that president trump has given to the leader of north korea? is that appropriate at the u.n.? caller: we did see the speech. i would rather that he used a different name. but nonetheless, it is a very difficult time and a very difficult country that we are issueg with the greater he resolved in my mind and i hope in many people's minds about the terrible threat that north korea poses and countries to everyind civilization. our was satisfied with his speech. i've been worried about president trump, as many have, understandably. i hope you will be more consistent in the way he demonstrated tonight. i loved his performance, his presentation, and i want to see much more of that. and as a resident of indiana and a great supporter of our vice presid

. >> that is the real moment for me was during the mitt romney campaign and kid rock did a lot for mittmney and to see them talking about policy was blowing my mind. i think i hope he runs in michigan. he could win that race. greg: oh he could win. >> if he wants to be a senator in michigan, i'm from michigan, he has to be one thing and get his name on the ballot. he will win. he will one 100% win. i'm calling it right now that he will win. think about michigan, trump one michigan and ernie one. they were -- kid rock will be a senator if he runs. greg: with men, he will get men but with women, he'll get women. [laughter] what he won't get our beta male students and blog editors at the huffington post in angry unemployed activists. i got elated that he will get 98.5% of the votes. [applause] tyrus, this guy is taking professional wrestling into politics. >> no, he did not. he's a singer. he ain't no wrestler. donald trump did that. trump actually wrestled and that we cut a promo. what he is trying to deal -- here's the deal, donald trump is a unicorn. donald trump is a pony. you can't do

and while the margins, there was some improvement for instance over mitt romney or decline over mitt romney, this didn't bare out. that seems to be the question here. people are going to come home to the republican party is the bet that the republicans are making. >> yeah. that's -- look, the democrats don't have any illusions like that in alabama. that's not something that they're banking on here. what i do think you're going to see doug jones coming out with is he's going to emphasize a very positive campaign. he has a very tough needle to thread here because roy moore's magic trick is that roy moore depends on his opponents to do a lot of the work for him. so if you attack him for being a religious nut, well his base then gets that much more agitated and that much more likely to turn out. so he has to emphasize a very positive campaign that he's not going to embarrass alabama and i think you're going to hear doug jones using a phrase that republicans tend to use instead which is emphasizing the rule of law. here is a judge who has twice been removed from the bench because he violat

governor mitt romney did not pass a law like this.ifferente to 10 health insurance companies and he said within the next year you have to pick one of those to be covered or you will be fine. it wasn't a socialist government controlled universal health care. put that outo there that what romney did in massachusetts is what different than what president obama did his. and then weas mark will hear from norman in massachusetts. go ahead. caller: i'm here in massachusetts where they have accepted the medicaid expansion but still the premiums go way up even for people like me on social security. he raised it by $130 a month. they reduced the amount of care people can get there was a law in massachusetts that nobody could be turned down for health care. once the affordable care act past people started to be turned down. it has happened to me three times. the idea that the states that expected medicaid expansion did well is not correct. i would be for repeal but it definitely needs to be short of a lot with the insurance companies and the dru

i wouldn't argue mitt romney is a white supremacist. >> in terms of the essential core of what he isoing -- >> i don't think he's president without it. i think that's the huge difference. it's not a side. it's not like bush 1 for instance with willie horton, which was bad, by the way, right? not definite. this is a thing in order to get over. it's the core of him. he began his career in birtherrism. it wasn't along the way. that was what kicked it off. so i think in that sense, he's different. >> there's a real question i think about sometimes about trump and i think about ross perot. >> right. >> where i think about it. i remember living through the ross perot phenomenon and thinking there was all these pieces like the two-party system is broken forever. there is a transformational moment in american politics, nothing will be the same. it turned out he would be an answer to the trivia question. there was no pre roism. it was a sui general phenomenon. i wonder which paths lay before us. is he this transformational hinge in american history about the appeal of particularly white natio

we had it mitt romney you can see the water is right up the sea wall. normally an area where people are sunbathing, further out you can see how strong the way waves are crashing up. few feet high. expected to grow larger. now, we don't expect a category 1 hurricane to make landfall but it is trending close enough in the atlantic, the jersey shore is really starting to feel the forces storm. the brunt is expected this morning and through the mid afternoon. and atlantic to cape may are looking at potential gusty winds up to 40 miles an hour and coastal erosion that has gone to recent i replenishment to the coast. ready for whatever jose brings, residents are hoping the storm really won't bring much. >> we were here for sandy, so we pay attention to every hurricane that comes up the coast and definitely gets us nervous, looks like jose will blow out into the atlantic and leave us alone. >> reporter: these are some of the effects of jose. this volatile ocean meanwhile jv kind of mills in the storm behind it. alicia nieves, cbs3 "eyewitness news." >>> this m

that's what mitt romney did in 2012. and trump went further with the wall and it resonated with republican voters and they elected him and now they wantar results. some, that color doesn't like this punting to congress. >> host: we have about a half an hour left.reat of course you can see great reporting on the hill and around washington as well.. tony is in washington, d.c. a republican go-ahead.d. >> caller: hello. good morning my on? >> yes. go ahead. >> caller: i like to say, what better way to weaken a country than to bring foreign nationals into the country. you read in the bible they ran the foreigners out of the countries because the idol they were worshiping in the love that they did not have for the country, they didn't have heart for the country, the great wall of china was built to keep the foreigners out of the country. look at china now. it's basically where america is eating out of china's hands.r to >> host: i want to ask you a question, does it matter to you if the united states pays for that wall? or of

and because everybody like mitt romney, jeb bush, they were all wussies. we wanted somebody to stand up for us. host: when you say the media, who are you referring to? caller: basically, cnn, they will not let anybody talk. they just talk over them and that is ridiculous. we should have a conversation about this, like i am talking to you. i only watch you because i will not watch that anymore. guest: the media has been a big storyline in 2016 and 2017. about going shy after people in the media, specifically cnn. during the twice 16 campaign, he went after -- 2016 ethane, he went after fox news a lot. campaign, he went after fox news a lot. trump went after jeb bush for being weak and low energy. he labeled his opponents very effectively. they want action on immigration reform. base has largely stood by him and the question is, now that he is putting this issue to congress for six months, whether any -- will there be any loss in his base? host: how has the trump presidency change the way you do your job? guest: the news cycles used to beat you had one big n

i wouldn't argue mitt romney is a white supreme sith.there is a lot in the back of the charge. it's the core of him. he began his career in birtherrism. it wasn't on the way. that it was thing that got et started. that was the thing that kicked it off. i think in that sense he's different. >> that's what got it started. i'm joined by a former aid to hillary clinton and a seniored a national spokes woman from moveon.org. zerlin a, on the one hand, they want to be in a fight, a thoughtful and celebrated author engaging the underpinnings of the, that barack obama caused a backlash that many republican leaders to their initial credit did not fully engage and donald trump stood up in 2011 and 2012 and embraced racist birtherrism. >> it was a little commune yvette. they said i agree, the first black president wasn't born in the united states. they would say, i believe barack obama when he was not born in kenya. the underlying message there is you know if you are talking to the republican base, they don't believe anything barack obama says. so

. >> but i wouldn't argue that mitt romney is a white supremacist.d trump is a specific thing and evidence to back up the charge. it is the core of him. he began the career in birtherism. it wasn't on the way. that was the thing that got it started. that was what kicked it off. you know? so i think in that sense he is different. >> that's what got it started. i'm joined by director of programming and a senior adviser of moveon.org and veteran of several campaigns. zirlina, on the one hand, the white house appears to want to be in a fight with espn. >> right. >> as you hear ta-nehisi coates, engaging the underpinnings of this, that barack obama caused a backlash, that many republican leaders to their initial credit did not fully engage. >> right. >> donald trump stood up in 2011 and 2012 and embraced racist birtherism. >> it was complicated because while they didn't endorse or say i agree with donald trump that the first black president wasn't born in the united states, they would say things like, well, i believe barack obama when he says he wasn't bo

along with our guest, the former deputy manager for mitt romney's 2012 presidential campaign. i don't know, maybe she's going to be working for mitt again. jonathan, you must be running least a mini victory lap today. weeks ago, you reported attempts by the legal team to get kushner out of the building. >> yes, it's accurate, "the wall street journal" report is accurate, but it is a very narrow story. it's mark cassowitz who is the president's outside counsel and the press team in particular who -- and jay seculo, by the way who developed a very poisonous relationship with jared kushner, the jared kushner legal team. i was told con temp rainiously they wanted to purse t up a wal between the president and kushner and the advice to the president from kasowitz was he needed to stop talking about the russian investigation with jared kushner. the story from "the wall street journal" yesterday takes this even further. saying that they recommended -- that jared kushner no longer work inside the west wing and that the outside press shop is the way i read that story. it's mark curalo ap

david petraeus, why not get mitt romney in. let the president see people and do his due diligence. i think people had reservation about loyalty and would he be a team player, but i think first particularly given his angle of attack on china i thought was very smart. >> rose: rex tillerson came in because he was recommended by bob dweats. >> tillerson recommended other people for energy, we didn't think he would be interested. >> rose: rex tillerson comes from one of the biggest establishment companies in the world, exxonmobil. >> he is a guy from texas, though. >> rose: he gets a pass because he's from texas? >> no, but he and the president-elect spent a lot of time with each other, a very similar outlook in the world on the middle east, russia -- maybe not so much china -- but the middle east and russia we thought would be two big hot areas. >> rose: all of a sudden you're running against washington, the establishment and the people you're choosing to come in. >> some are establishment, some very anti-establishment. let's talk about bringing in establishment figures. you have to s

and we both understood, even though i was on the campaign trail beating him on behalf of mitt romneyp until the saturday before the storm. but we both understood that we had a job to do and that's why the picture that you have of me shaking his hand when he got off the plane, that became such a big political deal that was character rised as a hug. the fact of the matter is i'd do it again. if it was today, i'd do it again, because that's what you're paid to do. and this other stuff is not what you're paid to do. the stuff cruz was going, you're not paid to do that. >> and governor christie addresses his sinking pole numbers. and we ask point-blank is president trump fit for office. his answer is straight ahead on "morning joe." kevin, meet your father. kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin trusted advice for life. kevin, how's your mom? life well planned. see what a raymond james financial advisor can do for you. bp developed new, industry-leading software to monitor drilling operations in real-time, so our engineers can solve problems with the most precise data

mitt romneyç didn't help the case. he came along, seemed out of touch.inst the likes of hillary clinton. hillary clinton felt like let them eat cake democrat. >> she was so contrived and stiff. trish: amazing the guy with more money and more success than previous candidates, even mitt romney, painted as successive wealth, he relates more to the average person in america than the democrats. >>ç yes. that is the secret of donald trump. he is a populist. i sort of feel like in some ways he is republican in name, a democrat, almost at heart, just because he is very close to that middle american that we key talking about, who quite frankly needs relief under tax reform. the issue is whether the gop leadership will be able to get people, other members of the gop off the fence and make sure they're on the fence as they couldn't do with health care just because there has been friction between mr. trump and the gop. it is incumbent upon mitch mcconnell to circle the wagons and get every gop member on board. trish: what do you think the chances are, shelby, then

he was mitt romney's campaign manager. the story about why he is willing to work with robbie is something we will talk more about. but again, matt -- a great guy. a very effective guy. and one who is helping in the project we have started to navigate the complicated politics of all this. last but certainly not least is debbie plunkett. who at one point was one of the most senior people in the national security agency. if you want to talk about someone who has been the bad -- has seen the bad guys go after your network debbie was responsible for all the cyber security for the national surety agency. at that time, also the department of defense. it goes without saying that if you're a bad guy, you are doing everything you can to get into the nationals surety agent he. -- security agency and dod. thanks to debbie, they almost never did it. [laughter] if i said never i would be lying. and anyone who really knows cyber says you never say never. here is the way we would like to progress. this is a very complicated issue. it is s

because donald trump after mitt romney lost the election in 2012 was vocal. lost was against immigration. so trump really, really flipped hard, but then successfully here. and so it -- can he take -- he obviously has a project. steve bannon has a project to remake the republican party in trump's image in a more economically populist nationalist kind of way. immigration was always kind of key to that. what happens here? i think we're in unchartered territory. this is the first time people have been burning their maga hats on twitter. whether that translates into something, we don't really know. yes, this calls the bluff of -- i mean, paul ryan actually was critical of the president when he suspended or he had jeff sessions suspend daca in a six month period of time. in some ways, he's calling the bluff of people who have been insincerely restrictionists. in another sense, he's going some place splpolitically i don think we know where we are. >> the wall will never be part of the deal. it's kind of a -- cynical but perfect political plays for the president. bec

he campaigned against the bellicose mitt romney to end the forever war in the middle east and bring america's troops home and he brought almost all of them home the afghan government begged us to leave a residual force there and begged. they just to add very slightly to that residual force but it's a very tiny residual force relatively it's more symbolic and so to see that as a breach of a commitment you know we're we're muddling toward the fulfillment of the commitment of america's decision to complete disengagement in the forever war sophia i beg your patience these things take time ok because from an observer's point of view it does seem naive for a leader of the world's only superpower to be committed to peace i mean you have all this military night you probably have no choice but to use it once you are in power. i know it's very expensive for america to police the world it's a role that we that was thrust upon us it was a role that we inherited it's not a role that we ever coveted and it's not in our nature americans are a peace loving people who are interested in doing business and pros

the campaign managers for hillary clinton and mitt romney and that at the election cyber security. this is about an hour and a half. >> ok. good evening, everyone. they keep are coming out to the forum. tonight we have a great group of guests at the kennedy school to talk about the digital threat to democracy. it is more often called the threat to the digital democracy. leading experts in a very complicated field. -- theyucky big rate were able to come appear. the systems that underpin that, and importantly, the electoral system of democratic governance, which is what was under attack in 2016 and earlier. who will talk little bit about that. -- i would like to briefly introduce myself. cambridge about six weeks now. in a past life, i was the department -- i was in charge of all things cyber at the pentagon. this is an issue that really resonates very strongly in my heart and in my gut. in the last year i was there at the obama and it -- administration come i saw a lot of bad things unfolding and the bad guys going after our democracy. it felt bad. once i was out, i thought to mysel

next, former presidential campaign managers for hillary clinton and mitt romney, look back at the elections and the growing role of several security in the elections real posted by harvard university's kennedy school of government. this is about an hour and a half. >> ok. good evening, everyone. thank you for coming out to the form this evening. tonight, we have a great group of gas at the kennedy school, -- guests at the kennedy school to talk about the digital threat to democracy. it is more often called the threat to the digital democracy. you will see that the group we have gathered here today, literally are the leading experts in a very complicated field. we are lucky that they are willing to come up here and talk about all of the things that make up a digital democracy and a threat to it now. we know the what those things are, things related to the first amendment, freeze beach, technology and the system that under in that, and importantly, the electoral system of them are credit governance. my name is eric rosenbach, i am codirector and i have an here at cambridge for about its weeks

do you think mitt romney would have gotten that treatment if he wrote a book after the election.ly: i think she has a right to be candid. for every interview i have seen with her, she comes across as incredibly genuine. she is speak what she thinks happened in the election. and i think the anchors are responding to that. again, they are journalists. they are not invested in what happens in the democratic party. howie: hillary says in the back to fox leads a right-wing war and truth. she is mad at the "new york times." so she doesn't much like the liberal media either. >> she doesn't. she plays the victim instead of being like margaret thatcher who waltz iron lady. but she is playing the victim. when the journalists ask her these tough questions that benefits the democratic party and the american political system. "glamour" magazine when they wrote an article asking whether hillary was correct that white women voted for trump because their husbands pushed them on that. howie: she seems to be ticked off at much of the media. emily she said one -- emily: she said there was one rumor

of republican voters also frustrated that in the two thousand and twelve presidential election mitt romney as the candidate on the g.o.p. side wasn't really the best advocate for getting government out of health care given his history with romney care in massachusetts so yes the republican base it's very frustrated that the senate has not been able to deliver on their promise you know these were common conservative games as you pointed out that we saw deregulation things like that did they overshoot the boat in their confidence of how these things just by i want to say sort of just injecting them into the language of this bill will continue to carry through or do you see a split coming up. you know i think that we have to keep in mind the failure of the graham cassidy bill and the failure of a lot of the other votes we saw in july on the senate side that was by a very narrow margin unfortunately republicans are faced with a situation where they need all but two senators to agree and so i think there is broad agreement you know when you have forty something senators agreeing to vote for a p

things and go places that none of the others would if they others would act like john mccain and mitt romney and or you can say that and or you better not bring that up donald trump is unafraid and that's what's driving i think the leadership of the republican party crazy because they still think that if you act civil if you do i don't have anybody don't offend an independent just played by the republican traditional playbook which loses and the media will love you and everybody will love you and that's not it donald trump is proven that does not exist anymore and people like paul ryan and mitch mcconnell and others just can't accept that and well except that they think that when trump goes somehow someday someway you know i.z. he doesn't run again already you losers or whatever they will be back to normal they will never be normal again you know in an idiot i might think the average. voter doesn't want to be loved i think they want to have a functioning economy and solid borders ok and a future to look forward to i don't care if i am loved ok i think that this message here again this is the

hillary clinton and mitt romney's former presidential campaign managers came together to lead a server security project designed to be a first response to foreign governments that try to interfere in u.s. elections. the panel discussion on digital threats also included google's information security manager. >> good evening. we have a great group of guests at the kennedy school to talk about the digital threats to democracy. more often i call it the threat to the digital democracy. you