what do we know about mitt romney?angelical, ivy league-educated, and he's from massachusetts, he's not a natural fit. - i was seen as being moderate because i was fromchusetts, and-- and that obviously was a challenge. - yes, sir howdy. - when rick perry got in, big state governor, he was 10 to 15 points ahead. shot to the top of the polls. natural kind of guy that republicans would nominate. one of the areas in whicthey wey was to position mitt romney to his right on the issue of immigration. - evne said, "oh, if rick perry gets in the race, it's his to win," and i knew we had a secret weapon on our side, which was my dad. - mitt is an incredible debater. he always walked onto the debate stage with a goal in mind for that particular debate. - texas has had 60% increase in illegal immigrants in texas. - the high point of illegal immigration was 1995 to 2000. all: el pueblo unido jamás será vencido. - we as latinos are being made the scapegoats for the socio-economic problems ithis nation. - we are a nation of immigran

mitt romney won a primary in nevada. and in utah -- excuse me, what does that say to you what kind of senator he might be? what kind of light will that shine in the divisions in the republican party? >> this is a huge question. are we going to get the mitt romney of 2016 who said the president was a fraud and phony and danger to the republic if he was elected or will he get the mitt romney of this year who has been pretty defer ent shal and criticize the president here and there and told this network he was not necessarily somebody who romney considered a role model for his grandchildren but embraced the agenda and supportive of the president on policy. it's hard to say. a couple of senators you've flagged earlier, jeff flake, bob corker on their way out of the senate does mitt romney fill the void as somebody of considerable standing within the party willing to criticize this president and that remains to be seen. there are not be a lot of voices next year. >> the big stories over the last few weeks, how they might be a

. >> mitt romney came out with a statement. and he said, president trump's decision to side with putin over american intelligence agencies is disgraceful. and detrimental. russia remains our number one geopolitical adversary. creating a normal equivalence between russia and the united states, it undermines our national integrity and impairs our global credibility. you know mitt romney quite a bit. you admire him greatly. what kind of senator will he make in this race? will he stand up to president trump when others won't? >> i believe he will. he stands up on principle and has studied and has taken strong positions on foreign policy, and national security. particularly on the russia issue. if you read that statement, it sounds like the warnings that he offered to then-president obama in 2012. >> in the debate. >> right. he's been vindicated of his statements back then. and i think these, again, are because he has studied the issues very closely. he feels strongly on these issues. i think he will stand up to anybody that believe

mitt romney was right. barack obama was flat out wrong. >> look, one of the things i like about you, jason, you are a former place kicker just like me and we know better. we want to know the truth, and i want to know what happened, and i'm sure you do, too, and i c hope congress does its job. >> jason: fair enough, gentlemen, thank you. i appreciate it. as the director of national intelligence, dan coats is president trump's top spy. but for how long? that's the big question tonight after director coats make these comments about the helsinki conference today that couldn't have made the president very happy. >> i wish he had made a different statement. but i think that now that has been clarified. i don't know what happened in that meeting. i think as time goes by, the president has mentioned some things that happened in that meeting, i think we will learn more. but that is thell president's prerogative. he asked me how that ought to be conducted, i would have suggested a different way. but that is not my ro

the nra spent $10 million on mitt romney in 2012. they spent more than $30 million because they don't have to probably report the money they spend on getting out the vote. butina came to the united states 2016 to become a graduate student at american university. she has forced all of these added aships and she russian gun rights group called the right to bear arms. disconnectere is a with regard to this group. vladimir putin doesn't want his citizenry to be owning guns, except maybe a hunting rifle. this led to the formation of with anup and they met array officials. there was a bomb between these two groups. nra board members went over to and the nra president went and were hosted and treated to lavish meals by this group of russian officials. high-ranking with russian officials during their visits. a lot of things are going on here because a lot of the russian gun companies are trying to get into the u.s. market. they were under u.s. sanctions. continued intoip the campaign. fbi016, according to the which was tracking her very clos

said about. >> guest: steve bannon liked mitt romney's position on china and reince priebus thoughtit was it would be a good idea and trump said he looked the part. ... >> we talk about who is supporting him and whose loyal. in the end giuliani he did not want to be attorney general. giuliani was not as big a supporter, sessions was there a big's supporter. even though trump had reservations he did it is attorney general. still make snide remarks about him and a terms of trump's agenda. those were the insights. >> what about the insights between john kelly and the chiefs of staff so everyone was just doing the one thing and did not have to go through. he is supposedly reaching and at sometime trump is going around him as well. and he will go about any type of restriction carry puts on him. you go through me and that's not very good. >> you also talk about kellyanne conway who a number of us have known for years. it was very negative. he said that her job as campaign manager the white house were in name only. and she was the number one maker of the press. how is that going. the peopl

trump picked as his secretary of state, not mitt romney but out of nowhere, the exxon ceo, rex tillerson whom vladamir putin had previously ordered the russian role of friendship in honor of the big oil deals they did together. he was someone he had never met and never had any dealings with. where did he come up with that as a choice for secretary of state? the russian trolls up in arms about the prospect romney might be the choice, they were publicly delight when trump picked this guy he never met before, when he picked rex tillerson. the idea that a foreign adversary may have exercised some kind of veto power over our president's cabinet choices, that is an explosive allegation. that's not affecting the election, affecting the conduct of the u.s. government after the election. at this point, we have potential evidence that may have happened and it comes from several different sources including now a federal indictment. there's the medal that russian official number one from the latest indictment got from the fsb when trump got the nomination and the medal russian president vladamir put

>> i think president trump succeeded in winning in 2016 without mitt romney's help.. the president actually has already endorsed mitt romney in his race and i think he will win overwhelmingly in utah. i don't think anyone is concerned about that. i think some of what you see happening, mitt romney has made positive statements about the president on the campaign trail. i know any time he says anything even remotely that seems even remotely critical of the president the media latches onto that. romney is criticizing trump. there might be a little bit of that going on. >> eric: why would he hedge if he has been endorsed by him? >> when he was running for governor massachusetts he was pro-choice and running for president he was pro-life. i do feel that he says what he needs to say to get elected. i think right now he wants to see where the tide of voters' opinion is on the president because he knows his race, when it gets closer to 2020. he has said, the media jumps on it. not a good role model for children but it is great he has tough talk. >> sandra: you go back to the

so good, they'll leave you speechless. >>> mitt romney's political comeback is in full swing. andslide victory in utah's gop senate primary on tuesday. i caught up with romney in the wake of his win this week, and i started out by asking him why at a time when so many republicans seem to be leaving washington, he wants to go. >> well, i think these are times that call for people of sober judgment. i hope i fit that qualification, and i think it's a critical time. i think we're going into a turns internationally of significance, and i think domestically, our economy is going to get turned on its head by virtual of artificial intelligence and automation. and i think you need to have people in washington who understand how the economy works, and i think i'm one of those. >> you mentioned a foreign policy in the world. in 2012, you called russia our greatest geopolitical foe. >> this is to russia. this is without question or number one geopolitical foe. >> do you still think that's the case, do and you feel a little vindicated? >> well, there is no question they've acted like a geo

on as actually paste republican idea passed by mitt romney. provided universal health care. single-payerrsue a system.ed we had a republican thinking when you had a system in place -- mitt romney promoted that plan and he had to tie whyelf in knots to explain the same plan he was for as governor was terrible now that obama did it as president. in this opportunity. trying to find the common ground , we see that happening now. and you are right to be frustrated. it is enough to say to democrats that you have to work with republicans, they have to work with you. host: let's go to nick, next. caller: i am a retired, disabled veteran. awould like to ask your guest little bit about the robert mueller investigation. it has been over a year. either there is nothing to the this is the most incompetent investigating team with $18 million and 17 people. isn't it time for a second special investigator or special counsel to be appointed to look into the doj and fbi stuff? because whether you like him or trump i think president is the best president we have had in the last hundred years d

it reminds me of mitt romney and they are running articles about how mitt romney bullied kid in prepms like democrats do this often. talk about this guy's record. i have issue with one of the tax related cases about how he argued that the mandate for the affordable care act was a tax and not a penalty. talk about that. take issue with that. why did they go into this nonsense depletes level argument? it makes people say your guys are swimming. >> juan: i think they will get into it. that's where we are at the moment. yesterday, there were these wonderful pictures of him with his family when he was the nomination was announced and he spoke in the east room of the white house. then there were articles about, what does it mean when men show off their women as part of their resume, the $2 and the wonderful wife. i thought this is ridiculous. leave the guy alone. but they are going to talk about the record, not only the tax records, surveillance. >> dana: commercial break. greg, what you think. is it good for brett kavanaugh? >> greg: beer kegs, baseball, and debt. you can't get more ameri

that mitt romney won without losing trump's blue-collar vote. and you can see that there are a lot of options in the short-term. the long-term is a little different than a little tougher. this is a table that communicates the whole demographic change thing everyone keeps talking about. breakdown of eligible voters in 2016, 2020 and 2036. white and blue collar voters right now make up 46 percent of eligible voters. in 20 years that's going to be 37%. from 12% to 18% in the same time frame. asian and other voters go from 7% to 10%. what this is communicating is that groups that lean toward democrats right now are growing and groups that lean toward republicans are in the long-term looking like they are going to shrink. i think there are a lot of options for republicans here. long-term trends in politics are really hard to predict. we can imagine scenarios where republicans take a greater share of the nonwhite vote, where they evenat in combination with greater ways than they are now. voters, bloc voting, there are a lot of scenarios and a lot of o

and what's interesting to me is where is the republican revoke, where the john mccain, where is mitt romney or actively courting donald trump. they cannot believe in this. there are two generations of republican foreign policy hawks who have argued for a tougher line on russia. they must have watched this press conference and felt like their entire life's work had been destroyed. and yet they barely say anything. >> i want to continue this conversation, but i got to get a break in. stick around. we'll be right back. because you've made sure this sensor and this machine are integrated. & she can talk to him, & yes... atta, boy. some people assign genders to machines. and you can be sure you won't have any problems. except for the daily theft of your danish. not cool! at&t provides edge to edge intelligence. it can do so much for your business, the list goes on and on. that's the power of &. & this shipment will be delivered... ♪ ♪ can world-renowned artist red hong yi use the chase mobile app® to pay practically anyone, at any bank? all while creating a masterpiece made of tea leaves? ♪ ♪ ye

i don't know where he has been. >> mitt romney talks like he's only seen russia by watching "rocky 4. laura: which is it? should we be getting closer to russia and putin? or should we have a dynamic of constant confrontation of hostility? the liberals change their views clearly depending on which party has the white house. i think in the end what really matters is how trump handles the russian relationship going i forward. so despite some of these verbal missteps, the president hase already put us, i think in a better position, by engaging russia, and opening dialogue. it's just the start. and that's "the angle." joining me in our reaction is scott uehlinger, former cia o officer based in russia, stephen yates, former deputy assistantse of vice president dick cheney for national security affairs, and here in the studio, matt schlapp, chairman of the american conservative union. matt, your reaction? >> i think what you said really captures it, the most important part of this is the policy. should we be getting alonge with putin and russia? absolutely. the idea that you have liberals al

and insert here, he knew the russians were helping his campaign and hurting mitt romney's campaign and maybe that helped his campaign to stop the russians in meddling in his erm election. march, 2012, obama was heard telling putin's sidekick, that he would have quote, more flexibility unquote, but it's important for him to give me space, unquote. he replied, i will transmit this information to vladimir and i stand with you. maybe that had something to do with the obama administration not to confront russia because they were. the article says time and time again, russia medles and it was the experts, something we were used to and something we happened all the time and then one day, dem cralts used an excuse and everything changed. n interesting article there. by steven j. allen, june 23. is rather aker, it tragic that we had a hearing on friday, i didn't violate the rules of the house. many of my democratic colleagues did. they are not supposed to rudely another member's time, constantly yelling and say take your meds. i didn't call anybody on the not regulations but it is a violation.

and donald trump makes what mitt romney did or could be accused of doing look like small potatoes onaling, self-enrichment. why democrats can't capitalize on this given the history they've had in doing it in the past is mystifying to me. >> i think part of it is because of exactly what you just said. with mitt romney, he was aloof and away from those very same people who then made a judgment about that. here, people see donald trump as fighting for them. so his rich guy connections, his new york background, all of that, they consider an asset in the war against those they felt they needed to go out against and donald trump has been the tip of that particular spear. that's why it doesn't resinate or stick on him the way it did mitt romney. >> david farrenthal, thanks for your reporting. we appreciate it. ari, let's talk about the cohen revelation from last night. what should we glean from it? what should we take away from it? >> this is very big. i don't know where it came from. the sourcing remains technically anonymous. but it raises the question was donald trump working with advanc

they've dramatically increased their spending on behalf of president trump versus mitt romney in 2012and when asked questions about those relationships by the senator who's conducting an investigation, they've declined to kind of open up and tell everything they know. i think there are very real questions about the extend to which, you know, the nra's election spending and their policy preferences have been influenced order infiltrated by russian government officials. one way or the other, whether it's a department of justice investigation, i think there are questions they have to answer. >> could this lead us down the track of the evidence for collusion? i meeran, the daily beast noted this morning in their article this gets as close to collusion, this is as close as it gets to collusion. they said the reason is because she had help from at least one american in her effort to build back channels between top republican party insiders and the kremlin. u.s. person one again appears to be paul erickson, who sherperred her, advising her on outreach. another american who we don't have an i

mitt romney, disgraceful and detrimental to our democratic principles. house speaker paul ryan, no question that russia interfered in our presidential election. ben sass, this is flat-out wrong. some republicans went on camera to slam the president. >> president trump failed america today. >> i did not think this was a good moment for our country. i just felt like the president's comments made us look as a nation more like a pushover. >> whatted president said today is not accurate. >> the majority leader mitch mcconnell also saying he believes the intelligence chiefs. trump's performance the press conference, siding with putin, was, in fact, a shock to his own team. according to one u.s. official who told cnn the plan was that trump would just pivot on election interference. it happened and move on. but of course he did the exact opposite. he started going into detail and he doubled down. >> do you how old russia at all accountable for anything in particular? if so, what would you -- what would you consider them -- that they are responsible for? >> yes,

the answer, mitt romney's for may surprise us. the biggest threat bain argues to america's economic growth is income any quality because it is going to hurt consumer demand. and a phd economist, so that they could buy his products and have economic growth and here's what democrats should do, to the republican party. the same log script in 1980. we cut taxes, then increase defense and how will it work out, 4% economic growth. a democratic president is balancing the budget. and growing at 2.2% and donald trump says you don't leave in the greatness of the american people. we should say we are going to grow the economy at 4% or 5% and here's how we are going to do it. and investing in people, and the greatness of ordinary americans and invest in ordinary americans and that will get 4% economic growth. that is the message is all democrats should agree on. i don't know if we call it demand side economics, rise up economics, innovation economics but we need an answer to supply-side. two final points. the eit see expansion can be explaine

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federal job-- and she wants to abolish ice, she is so left that she makes bernie sanders look like mitt romneyt is insane that is part yf her victory was such a shock, she is far left, no support from the democratic party and unlike her opponent she had no big money behind her. nobody expected her to win, especially not crowley because he clearly disn even have a concession speech planned. >> i respect the outcome of this election. >> crowley dedicated the bruce springsteen hit born to run to his opponent. baby we were born to run. >> trevor: that is so embarrassing. no, because you realize he was so confident he would win that he even planned to perform his own bruce springsteen concert then afterwards he had to pretend that the song was for his opponent. yeah, i dedicate this song to her. okay, my next song also goes out to my o poant, all i do is win, win no matter what,-- in the building, everybody hands go up. ♪ and they stay there. ♪ and they stay there. ♪ so for a few hour this morning, progressives were like hey, maybe is future is not as bad as if seems and the future was like oh, you

our good job is that i don't know mitt. romney we did. not know we're going to. let people walk out and i. think sad sad. and he insists it's his own money behind his party. i sell my then i sell my house i sell my car just before i have good cars and comfortable cars but for now i just. maybe mitch being. cambodia is a failing democracy we are a one party state. is the director of one of cambodia's oldest and most respected human rights organizations. if you look closely at some of these parties the other night. except from one tiny one they're all aligned in some ways and they all popped up recently so this is no tea party. and actually this is. a non competitive election. the one and only party that not only pinoy says is independent is this one the grassroots democratic party set up in twenty fifteen today it's candidates a meeting on the outskirts of phnom penh to talk election strategy. but what i mean how much of america. could you be. saying coma is a party founder and its prime ministerial candidate. and not that general but hang your. the portrait of hi

. >> yes, it is where he outperformed mitt romney most. it is very dangerous for him. >> interesting you look at iowa, wisconsin, some of these counties that completely flipped for drunk and became very important counties for trump. you look at the numbers, some 82% will be trump counties. how much leverage for the voters if farm values fall. >> the voters that switched from barack obama to donald trump in 2016, but it is not just about that but it is about turnout. if they're unhappy with the trade war, if they like donald trump more, but they're not going to show up. >> they think the economy is so good in so many areas, that a trade war can be absorbed. >> he has a lot to talk about. he can talk about the record low unemployment rate. his record on the economy is strong. >> the economy is his best issue by far of the major issues, in fact the difference between his overall approval rating and that of the economy is one of the largest for any president dating back to the late 70s. the question is whether or not a trade war will drag it d

and then you have more competitive seats that probably went for donald trump or mitt romney, and then went to hillary clinton. that is where the real battle will be in place of the california pennsylvania. host: carr guest is sean trende, a senior analyst for real clear politics joining us from columbus. and lynn is on the line from san antonio, texas. caller: good morning. i will tell you what, i love your shows and such, but i would not trust real clear politics any further than i can throw them. anything they say as far as i am concerned is full of hooey. and the crazy lady you had on atfore is part of the tin h brigade. you have never seen a businessman at work and don't want to see another one because the politicians and lawyers want sure was to make sure no one ever gets in again. thank you. bye. host: let's talk about the president role in the midterm elections. he will be on the campaign trail , making sure to keep the majority in the house and senate for republicans. what role should the president playing moving ahead? guest: it is interesting because nationally, he is not te

our good hobby is that i don't know mitt. romney i did. not. know people were. sad. and he insists it's his own money behind his party i sell my then i sell my house i sell my car just before i have a good cause. comfortable cos i just. maybe niche being. cambodia is a failing democracy where a one party state. is the director of one of cambodia's oldest and most respected human rights organizations. if you look closely at some of these parties the other night. except from one tiny one they're all aligned in some ways and they all popped up recently so this is no tea party. and actually this is. a non competitive election. the one and only party that not only pinoy says is independent is this one the grassroots democratic party set up in twenty fifteen today it's candidates a meeting on the outskirts of phnom penh to talk election strategy on what i mean how mall or not for me in class who you speak of. saying coma is a party founder and its prime ministerial candidate. and not that general but hang your. the portrait of his party's co-founder is an eerie reminder of

point out that donald trump got the higher percentage of hispanics of voting for him only and did mitt romney or john mccain which i think is something that goes overlooked and really should look the reason why the donors don't want the you know the socialist democrats influence and and policies and platforms is because they can't win i mean that's why someone like me is begging you and begging the democrats to run how do you explain to let ensemble or know where you stand and keep. the lid on so cool and a little first of all this a very very very small percentage of people voted and she happens to live in a district where where the message appeals but even she isn't honest when she is pressed on what she she believes as a democratic socialist she says oh i don't think we should have labels i don't like the label and if that if the word got out that she was for abolishing prisons abolishing prisons abolishing capital is not good for her i didn't say that where i was reading about where i fit prison industry those are two completely valid it's a policy as there is a completely different thing

gave between them and what putin was saying some more republican reaction here john mccain and mitt romney have called trump's conduct disgraceful they're two of the most well known republicans internationally both ran against barack obama for president in two thousand and eight and twenty twelve respectively newt gingrich one of trump's most ardent supporters said he made the most serious mistake of his presidency and senator lindsey graham said the conference will creates far more problems than it solves even fox news who trump has praised often since becoming president criticize his performance at the summit that's what made his before him it's disgusting i'm sorry just another way of feel it's not a right or left thing to be this is wrong or u.s. president on foreign soil talking to our biggest enemy or adversary or competitor right i don't know how we define them these days is essentially letting the guy get away with this and finally not to be left out the late night talk shows also jumped into the fray. today has shaken me to my core. i don't think i need to point out that a sixty f

. >> this is what mitt romney had to say about him. robert jeffress says you can't be saved by being a ju. and mormonism is a heresy. do you think this really is an entirely. >> it is an appalling disgrace. that these two were allowed to open in prayer under the flag of the united states an official u.s. government event given their mountains of bigotry, anti islam, and anti mormonism. we don't talk about who these people are enough. so let's do it for a moments. jerry fallwell, mike huckabee all of them. they dress up as man of god, but they are not. they are in business, and they are in politics. the type of politics that they advocate is an extreme and theo accuratically -- from all sorts of behavior that they previously condemned it is for expedient partisan political purposes. one of the things that is certainly true about this movement, wherever you look around the world and you see the fusion of the state with religion, whether it is putin and the orthodox church complicit in his power or other places around the world, the ideol

sort of you're running as the vice-presidential nominee for mitt romney, and you were at the rock county fair in janesville and had a "paul on the road to damascus" conversion moment. >> yeah, sure. you know... >> what happened? >> ...i had made a mistake earlier in my career where i used this refrain of "makers versus takers," where, you know, a think tank put out this number about how many people were contributing in taxes, and how many people were consuming in tax dollars, and i made a very... it was the wrong thing to do. a guy came up to me and said, "well, which one am i? am i a maker, or am i taker? you know, i served my country. you know, i use these benefits. does that mean i'm not a producer to society? i'm now a blight?" and it really struck me that this man's criticism was totally warranted and that i had gotten it wrong... >> or that it felt in some way like it was a judgment on him... >> that's exactly right. >> ...for accepting federal assistance. >> that's my point, so what i was trying to get at, but i did not do it very well, and i was very clumsy about it, was we want

the russians are always going to act like the russians, 6 years ago when mitt romney was warning about the russians, the 80s called and want their cold war back, the russians have always been bad. from the communists in the 40s to the nuclear freeze in the 80s and this nonsense now but did they influence the election? did a few people in their little vladivostok boiler room putting up facebook ads change the election? >> you can't have your cake and eat it too. according to the mueller indictment there are 12 top-tier officials, you are correct, they have done -- >> you guys agree there was meddling in the thing that is tough for most of us is to think everybody across the political spectrum says they want to divide the country and have each other at each other's roads. how he leads is by saying he should fortify the election system, he hasn't done that. but he hasn't done that. a lot of it is up to the folks on capitol hill. we will thank you both, come back. we have to mobilize, that is the quote from alexandria cortez calling for the resistance to occupy airports, ice offices and mu

people across the country are taking aim at private equity firms started by mitt romney.all street billionaires killed the company with crippling debt. now laughing their way to the bank checking out $470 million in interest fees. former toys "r" us workers are fighting back. in the former store manager joints me now. thank you so much for being here. i really appreciate it. tell us about your experience. >> thank you for having me. i work for toys "r" us for 30 years. i started as a cashier and worked my way up to store manager in the florida store. to find out that toys "r" us was going out of the business was devastating. something we didn't expect. when they announced they would close the store at the beginning of the year, there was a communication that went out that said, they're going to close the first 182 stores. team members will be placed at another store or be given a severance package to help through the transition. a month later they said there is no severance pay. because of the bankruptcy filing. >> steve: it's worse than what i laid out. it's not just tha

i am very much looking forward to a new senator from utah named mitt romney who will be a big thorn in the president's side. while flake and corn going away. we might have a brand new person to speak what is right. >> romney endorsed trump. >> i have to have something. >> i know, susan. >> i am not sure he is ready to take him on day-to-day. for more than seven months, trump's legal team has been negotiating possible terms. they are about as successful negotiators as north korea. bloomberg is reporting that rudy giuliani -- to avoid the chance of a perjury charge, trump is demanding in return for being questioned that he isn't asked questions about obstruction of justice under a propose approximaal. this is about obstruction. it is the firs charges. >> the president's lawyers in some way as much as people talk about rudy giuliani, the president's lawyers sense there is real threat here. and i would go further to say the president's complex financial dealings and as a result they don't want him to go any further than the fact of this question of russia and collusion. every lawyer i have

that had the effect of opening up a new world of voters for the nominees like donald trump and mitt romney who was seen as the corporatist but he was different enough that they'd been in the coalition and were drawn to it by its historic ties to the economic aid quality subcommittee opened up and they are free to vote on culture as opposed to voting on class. we had a discussion in 2016 and it still wasn't quite clear what was going to happen but we know what the conventional wisdom was and i remember that morning you told me you thought the party was changing the coalition and wanted rather than a collectionn that was booted to it and i think that is one thing we didn't quite realize at the time that's what president trump was doing wha whether it was by inst or design he was chasing the coalition that was available to the party rather than the one that the party had talked about trying to create. >> in 2008 and 2012, there is a republican deep set of navelgazing at the conclusion always was we have demographics on our side, they bought the political operative argument which is the destin

hurtful he realized there were a lot of voters tha that we upset that candidates like john mccain and mitt romney wouldn't use them so that's him saying i've got you so that's one. step two once you see this you will not be able to unseat it. he starts doing interviews saying there might be something to that. i'm not saying it but other people are so it's pushing it out there but not taking responsibility for it. and he could be in this step for a long time. it gets in interviews and they do the headlines. at this point he starts to control the media environment. he creates suspense. i have investigators coming to hawaii, there's a report coming soon. so that generates more media interest. let's see what he has to say. spoiler, it never comes out and then he selects a detractor. they say we think donald trump is lying. other people are talking about it, i'm just looking into it. so anybody that pops up loser, crazy and if he can find a target to start escape goading that's when it starts. then he declares the dream. >> like at the trump hotel in dc. i'm going to have a major announcement and you

. >> and if you look at the fund raising from the nra support from 2012 to mitt romney it was about $13 2016 it was $31 million to donald trump and donald trump writes about this, it's something that's been a source of pride for him, the solid support he had in the nra. >> it's part of the core genuine republican base. one of the real questions raised by what you point out with the money is where does this money come from? we are in a situation right now thank thanks to citizens united and other supreme court decisions where dark money, undisclosed money, is flooding into our political process. the nra is a major practitioner of this and just this week the treasury department, secretary mnuchin changed a rule to say a group like the nra would no longer have to disclose to the irs whose who its big donors are. this is a really risky thing for our country and we see how easy it is for foreign governments, perhaps, for foreign interests, for malevolent forces to manipulate the american political process by funneling money into it without disclosure. >> it would affect the nra and it flood