mitt romney, not a trump fan.es, republican, but not a trump fan is saying that tactic for the biden campaign is a bust. >> i could be ill-informed, but i'm not sure what mitt romney knows about winning the presidency, and i think that there is -- >> there are democrats who are worried about the way they're approaching this like obama. >> sure, absolutely. i wouldn't take my professional political advice from mitt romney when it comes to time to win the presidency. listen. you have a president -- a former president right now, donald trump, who is saying to people out loud, i will be a dictator on the first day. i want to use the doj, the department of justice to go after my opponents. so the idea of democracy being on the ballot isn't just a, you know, four years ago problem. it's a problem that the current candidate for the republican nomination is saying he will challenge the tenets of democracy right now, and i think the challenge for all of us is, what donald trump does, is he continues to move the ball furthe

larry: i think grover we have some mitt romney sound bite.u will love it. >> revenues as well as spending at their other ideas there is a arbitrage idea put forward by a couple of senators all ideas are open. >> including revenue. >> yes. larry: you know, grover, i could go for higher revenues if you lower tax rates and grow the economy at 4% that semirevenue. i don't think that is what senator romney was talking about. >> no. it is not. they are talking about tax increases, this will destroy the trump tax cuts. it will put an end to continuing the trump tax cuts that is on the table. then they will go back and what it is democrats want to take away, trump tax cuts that brought us economic growth that is what will be on cutting board. we need economic growth. we don't need higher taxes. we need spending restraint. the modern democratic party in power for last 3 years, has been spending like crazy. they want to take that off of table during the debate, during the campaign, and trick some republicans into saying something about a tack increase,

here's what i want to be focusey on and worry about that's theru nevempr trumper's you brought up mitt romney, blue-collar conservatives. we lost is mccain or romney hold your nose and put in the workan our policies and our way of life in the america first issues are better in our hands than they are in the democrats. the never trumper's are looking at donald trump and sayingexcu that's a step too far. clean it up to heck with you. we did that for cycle after cycle with your establishment and the elitist pics and now you have someone that wants to push forward those policies and improve the lives of all americans regardless of race, religion, colo r or creed get on board because what biden is doing to the country is destroying it. larry: they sort of never do. i lived with this for 40 years. the first time i worked for ronald reagan a long time ago in the budget office. the same crime, trump is the person who will stop the washington swamp.iv he will drain the swamp or he'll give is best shot and he knows. more now that he knew four years ago. he is learned fromies his victs and he learned fr

my take away is, this was a mitt romney and john mccain party. that was only a decade ago.s was a party that was globalist or internationalist. the lesson of internationalism was american needs to be active abroad. haley is slammed for that. the people who are with trump on america first are old people. so it does not like a new generation came. it is old people who used to be internationalists with reagan and mccain and romney are now america first. that is remarkable. >> the desantis folks have a legitimate gripe about the call from ap. to david's point, a lot of people hadn't even voted. eight: eastern time. the issue for desantis is, whining will only take you so far. you have to give people a reason to vote for you and not complain about the media and talking about stop the steal. >> i think trump continues to benefit of the dueling strategies of his opponents. they can't find a path towards consolidation and they can't find a way to take him on directly and instead, they are taking each other on. that is to his benefit. amy: i agree. this is donald trump's party. nikk

>> if you're asking me to explain the political calculus of mitt romney.t. larry: not enough time. not enough time. we'll drop the whole thing. >> good. larry: you're opposed to this fiscal commission. >> of course. larry: i just kidding hogan. caroline, serious matter, president trump, terrific, brilliant iowa caucus victory speech and he is continuing that in new hampshire. >> uh-huh. larry: very disgracious, very gracious, open arms one. governor desantis came around, senator tim scott come around. i think this idea of unity and unity based on success for the general election is a very powerful theme. people are not giving him credit for it naturally but i want to get your take on it? >> larry, i agree. i think it is a refreshing change of his rhetoric for retribution against his political allies. i also think his call for unity in iowa is an appeal to moderate voters in new hampshire which leans libertarian, leans fiscally hawkish, note maga, not culture warrior, loves governor sununu, beyond a good primary strategy, it is a good national strategy to l

>> well, as mitt romney said, it's appalling.n issue that republicans have been banging the drum over and over to say, it's a crisis on the border that is affecting americans every day, and to suggest that the crisis can be conveniently put off until november for political advantage, for trump, is just pure hypocrisy. and it just, once again, sends the message that all trump really cares about is himself, and gaining political advantages. and doesn't really care about what is affecting americans on the border, or elsewhere that are being affected by the border problem. so, it is all about what helped helped trump, and -- the country. >> robert, the two top issues for republicans, we've heard, is the economy and the border. the economy is clearly doing well. so, is that why trump wants this deal scratched? because, if you've got a strong economy, and the border being addressed, he's got nothing left to run on? >> yeah. it's just clear he wants the issue. he wants the chaos, he wants the crisis. he wants the visual. he wants all th

you helped run mitt romney's campaign in 2012. there were moments during that campaign where mitt romney was on the verge of beating obama. putting that to the side, when nikki haley, at the 11th hour, at the last moment starts to question trump's mental fitness, and for good reason when trump was mixing up nikki haley and nancy pelosi, is there a part of you that said, why didn't we do this soonsooner? or have you resigned yourself to the fact that none of that would have mattered? >> i think when you run against somebody, you have to run against them. just think about how absurd it is that you are running against a candidate who is facing 91 counts, it was never brought up in a debate. what greater gift could you be given as an opposition candidate? a jury in the hometown found him liable for sexual assault that the judge clarified at rape. that's the republican nominee. i think if you were going to run against donald trump, you have to take the attitude in these debates, one of us is going to walk off the stage alive. it's the

in 2012, the republicans had a bit of a fiasco because rick santorum and mitt romney ended up finishingery close. the final margin was something like eight and they had difficulty getting results for the last few precincts which could have been enough to change the outcome. it depends how close it is. if it is a squeaker maybe. the way things are looking omicron iowa, trump is so far ahead of the rest of the field i don't think there's going to be any question a■bout who one cow the caucus. is it possible someone could complain? i guess. you are reminding me of the 1980 caucuses which everybody remembers. george w. bush winning over ronald reagan. there were people who felt reagan's numbers were undercounted because of precincts that came in very late. ronald reagan never went around complaining the election was rigged. >> has iowa done anything to ensure people have confidence in the caucuses? have they made changes where they can show we have done something so the country can have confidence in the way we are doing this? >> these are run by the state parties. not election officials an

it is republicans who are probably more like carpenter republicans, mitt romney an example. he said, quote, i think the threat to democracy pitch is a bust. january 6 will be four years old by the election. people have processed it one way or another. biden needs fresh material and a new attack rather than kicking a dead political horse, that is from "new york times." that is an amanda carpenter republican. >> i think i'm a more of a liz cheney than a mitt romney republican right now. >> it is significant. >> it is significant that someone like mitt romney is saying that. i also thought that it was significant that george will -- there are people trying to put the hard tough issues away that usually come from a place of good faith. i think they're making the wrong call. campaigns usually have traditional issues. economy, president's age and immigration. so many people desperate lid want to go back to that world because it's safe and comfortable. that they just are afraid to keep talking about the issues that matter like democracy, which makes this 2024 election completely un

mitt romney is not a good deal maker. president trump knows a bad deal when he sees it and this is a bad deal for the american people. this does nothing to shore up our national security. we have millions of people, more than 12 million here illegally, countless that are here with nefarious reasons to hurt america. this does nothing to root out those terrorists and stop them from coming in. 168 countries, that's how many people are coming in, from 168 countries around the globe and we're not vetting them. they're coming from countries with known ties to terrorism, and it is a matter of time before the american people are hurt. i'm a mother. i'm tired of watching what is happening on the border. >> and so -- >> and other americans feel the same way, michael. we can't continue along like this. president trump wants to see real security, not some horrible deal that ties us down to accepting millions of people who are here illegally to stay here. these people have come illegally. >> let me say this. >> and they shouldn't be a

john mccain loses, mitt romney loses. george w.ush loses the popular vote and narrowly wins the electoral college. so that is -- it feels like this race right now, it's sort of like nikki haley representing the last gasp of the old guard versus it being this debate between what version of trump are we -- of trumpism and magism are we going to get -- are we? >> when you heard from a number of people, everyone should get in who wants to get in as long as enough people get out and coalesce around someone else to be able to present a viable alternative to mr. trump. it came down to new hampshire which is the first head-to-head contest. everyone cleared out of the race, the reason is they held back donald trump. what does it say to you about the party? >> maybe we should stop calling it the republican party and flat-out call it donald trump's matter party or maga party. it's not the republican party i grew up watching under two terms of w. it's a completely different party. it's not even a party. it's a movement now. and, you know, the

even tried to demonize mitt romney.ryone freaked out when he said i have binders full of women as if he was three-hole punching women. trump did a better job. we have seen what having biden as president, wars everywhere. he is pathetic. it is sad they have to do this. i don't know. i am getting scared she is having a media presence because i don't know, i don't see joe making it to november. michele obama-gavin newsom ticket makes me nervous. >> imagine being afraid of mitt romney. >> you know he is going to talk to you. he is not going to respect elevator quietness. oh [beep] mitt. >> greg: charlie, predictions for trump. it is not like he is a mystery. he has no thought that is unspoken. >> when she phrased it, this great unknown. we have no idea. right now, unknowns constantly present themeses. so much of the country, eggs $1 $1.99. right now, $7. you have people living paycheck to paycheck, what holiday am i not going to be celebrate next. what gender is my child going to come home because they have been indoctrinat

he's been a defender of democracy, mitt romney has been. but i did political -- that's quite a visual there. but here's the thing. it's not that at all. none of this is in the past. this is directly connected to how trump would approach a second term. i mean, just look at what we have learned in the past few days alone. just this morning, trump suggested that if he is reelected, he would have president biden indicted. one day before an appeals court in d. c. hears arguments on trump's claim that presidential immunity protects him from prosecution. over the weekend, three years to the day after the very real insurrection, trump's son posted in part, happy fake insurrection day! i do hope it was the start of something real, though. the start of something real. also over the weekend, republican congresswoman elise stefanik took a page out of trump's authoritarian playbook, refusing to commit to certifying the 2024 presidential results. you may have missed the story out of illinois with all of that happening, but it is particularly telling. tru

for example, brooke obama made mitt romney the poster boy of corporate greed back in 2012. arges were amplified, lifted up months earlier, by romney's republican opponents in the primary. >> mitt romney and bank capital were involved with what i call, vulture capitalism. >> they apparently looted the companies, left people totally unemployed, and walked off with millions of dollars. >> and there's a real difference between venture capitalism, and vulture capitalism. venture capitalism we like, vulture capitalism, no. >> they were making a lot of money, while the company was going bankrupt. >> yeah, believe it or not, president obama actually had rick perry and -- of all people to think for helping lay some of the groundwork there. and another example from way back in 1972, richard nixon released a brutal ad ridiculing the defense policy of his democratic challenger, george mcgovern. literally using, as you can see, their toy soldiers, to illustrate the sweeping cuts that he wanted to make to the armed forces. the thing is, that line of attack originally came from a's primary

>> i see her as the modern-day mitt romney.ay galvanized the support but the key thing is they would turn around tomorrow night. with the des moines register poll i saw the enthusiasm of her supporters low and a lot of them are democrats and independents. i'm not so sure they want to got on a cold and icy and snowy night for someone who will not win the iowa caucuses and most likely not play second either. >> and they made the case that the stronger supporters and cultural issues may not attend church services themselves and i wonder if that tracks with what you had been seeing and what that would mean politically. >> it is similar to what we were tracking and it is self identified evangelicals. have not seen a drop in attendance some of the evangelical saying they support trump. and politics does not become our religion. make sure you look higher as david said where the hope comes from it comes from the lord and not washington, d.c. also tell them to think bigger. hopefully people can keep focus where the focus needs to be and

not all, not mitt romney, in you lindse but lindsey graham. >> and a lot of people are saying trump is blocking the deal from happening. haley and the damdemocrats will capitalize on that. but his base will say he is back, the deal wasn't good enough, he has ted cruz talking about how this deal was a crap deal. and so what they are trying to position it as no, we're actually doing a tougher deal and we'll say, no, to a deal that will tie this to the ukraine and we'll make it stronger if we get it through. >> but that is utter b.s. and important to point that out to folks. donald trump is trying to stop this deal from happening so he can stop bipartisanship and biden from getting credit, so he can campaign on the issue while it gets worse. he is playing those supporters who care about the borders for fools yet again. an a lot of folks on the far right are doing it for their own political purposes as well. but we shouldn't say -- that may be folks' perception, but they are being drugged and diluted. so that is important to point out. >> i'm always struck by the fact trump didn't actually

>> i see her support being the modern-day mitt romney lane. it's not a big lane. galvanize that support and the key thing is will they turn out tomorrow night? i saw the enthusiasm of her supporters being low and i'm not so sure they want to go out on a cold, icy, snowy night to cast their vote for someone who will not wine in the iowa caucuses and not play second either. trump is connecting with a different type of evangelical voter made the case that the former president's strongest supporter has identified with evangelicals don't necessarily attend church services themselves and i'm wondering if that tracks with what you have been seeing and if so what that means politically? >> well, i think that is something that i've been tracking and it's self-identified evangelicals and i haven't seen a drop in attendance with some of the evangelicals that support trump, and my concern always is is that politics does not become my religion. we also tell people here with the family make sure you look higher. david said where does my help come from, it comes from the lord no

he is us educated with strong connections, including with mitt romney, the us presidential candidate, and mon from lebanon, ariel schone comes to power. he is officially a criminal and has a long history of killing and crimes against palestinians. in his record. massacre of unarmed people in the village of al-qubaya and the sabra and shatila massacre stand out. the number of casualties resulting from charon's actions is never clear because he takes pleasure in burning palestinians. when shahron brings war and terror, he faces defeat. with israel's defeat in the 33-day war, something in israel is fundamentally hurt, security. the right wingers attract people's attention with extremist slogans. meanwhile, netanyahu, who has a support of jewish rabbis and american advisers, has better position. he comes to power with numerous promises and based on his business background, implements economic reforms to garner public satisfaction through economic growth. ehud barak was considered tough opponent of netanyahu's. in 1999 he came to power with a promise of ending the war in lebanon. yahood ba

he is us educated with strong connections, including with mitt romney, the us presidential candidate, and manakam schneerson. influential rabbi. he shook hands with chairman of the palestine liberation organization, yaser arafat plotted in assassination attempt on senior hamas leader khalid and has been embroiled in corruption and graft, but after the events of 2000 and israel's withdraw. from lebanon, ariel sharon comes to power. he is officially a criminal and has a long history of killing and crimes against palestinians. in his record, the massacre. of unarmed people in the village of alkubaya and the sabra and shatila massacre stand out. the number of casualties resulting from charon's actions is never clear because he takes pleasure in burning palestinians. when sharon brings war and terror, he faces defeat. with israel's defeat in the 33-day war, something in israel is fundamentally hurt, security. the right wingers attract people's attention with extremist slogans. meanwhile, netanyahu, who has a support of jewish rabbis and american advisers, has better position. he comes to p

the mitch mcconnell list trainee mitt romney types or trump and j.d. vance?e mitch mcconnell. he entered bashing ronald reagan. now he's bashing donald trump. so, they are all defenders of the establishment and the status quo. reagan ran challenging the status quo and challenging the powers that be. no better case can be made how he discarded -- who ruled the soviet union since harry truman. first, containment and later evolved into dave connor. and reagan discarded. we will not get along with the soviet union but transcend the soviet union. we will beat them into the ground and make people in the soviet republicans free peer that is exactly what he did. nothing upset henry kissinger crowd more than reagan challenging that status quo. >> laura: so it was the old status quo, the old republican party, he didn't win in '76 but came back in 1980 obviously and won substantially. bedford of my want to talk about peace through strength. because trump has echoed that theme since 2015 since he got into the race. we need the american economy to be humming. manufacturin

. >> you can hear that in mitt romney's tone. let's bring in congressional reporter for the associated press. always wonderful to have you. those quotes that my colleague manu raju snagged from mitt romney came in response to this truth social post from trump. he wrote that house republicans should not accept a border deal at all unless they get everything they're demanding. how do we think that the house speaker, mike johnson, is going to react to this? because he obviously, should the senate pass some sort of deal in a bipartisan way, he's going to be under pressure to put it on the house floor. it's entirely up to him whether to do that. >> speaker mike johnson has said, he told reporters in the past few days that he's spoken regularly with the former president about this border deal, about funding ukraine and potentially israel and the supplemental negotiations that are going on, and for the president to put out that statement, i mean, puts immense pressure on speaker mike johnson who already, you know, yesterday barely got t

mitt romney announced he's not running. i think it's a real question. >> this is the book, called tired of winning, donald trump and the end of the grand old party. the book is out today. it's scary stuff, but jonathan, thank you for doing this excellent and very necessary reporting. much appreciated. >> thank you, joy. >>> up next on "the reidout," an explosive new book takes us inside fox's network of lies. exposing the dark heart of deception that drives their propaganda. author brian stelter joins me next. next and is crushed by a baby grand piano. are you replacing me? with this guy? customize and save with liberty bibberty. he doesn't even have a mustache! oh, look! a bibu. [limu emu squawks.] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ to finally lose 80 pounds and keep it off with golo only payis amazing.ou need. i've been maintaining. the weight is gone and it's never coming back. with golo, i've not only kept off the weight but i'm happier, i'm healthier, and i have a new lease on life. gol

i know he's not a democrat, but mitt romney is no fan of trump. and he a couple of weeks ago called it a bust to focus on that. that that is an older argument. do you think it would be -- prove more fruitful for the biden campaign to really go all in on policy, abortion being at the top of that list? >> well, i think that it's about freedom, right, it's about protecting democracy and protecting freedoms. and one of our freedoms is the right to control our bodies and control our reproductive cycles. also talking about the right to -- the freedom from student loans. the freedom to walk down the streets and not have to worry about being the target of racial attacks. those are all freedoms that we can certainly talk about. and i do think that really focusing on policy and describing freedom in those terms would be helpful. >> talking about democracy, i want your response to what dean phillips, democrat, minnesota congressman, running against biden in the primary here in new hampshire, had to say. this is a message he's been sending about president bid

>> i think mitt romney has it just about exactly right.about biden going, for example, to make a valley forge speech which they postponed because the weather was too bad while thousands of people were going out to vote in iowa and a very cold night tells the difference. the democrats are engaged in sort of shadow plays. if you ask the average american, are they more worried about the democrats destroying democracy or the republicans, i think you'll be surprised how many pick the democrats. you look at biden's justice department, look at these multiple lawsuits against donald trump. you look at the number of people being prosecuted over going to the capitol compared to no one being gone after in terms of the riots two years ago, the average american thinks washington is corrupt, that it's dangerous and that it's out of control. that's biden and the democrats. that's why i think you're seeing even among latinos, african americans, asian americans, steady shift towards trump and away from the democratic party. >> martha: we'll see what happen

one of the people he protected, you could see the video here will, senator mitt romney.s you can see here, goodman, in this now famous video, told romney to run the other way. just as the mob broke through. rioters kept coming. now, the mob was inside the building. goodman recalled and later testimony that rioters antagonized him. here he is, antagonized him. questions like, where the f art that members at? before a man jabbed him with a confederate flag. at this point, goodman was on his own. said the capital police radio system was working poorly. he had a riot mob of rioters demanded he moved, because they wanted to pay a visit to the senate. in this video, shall be eager bhavik of the huffington post, he tries to get the mob undeterred, they foursome up the stairs. at the same time, goodman is actively luring them away from the senate chamber. he knows that's where they want to go, and he knows there are lawmakers in their. as the mob reaches the next floor, more capital police officers are there, waiting for them to help round them up. eugene goodman stayed at the c

when we started focusing on mitt romney it brought the party together in an important way. i expect that's what you will see this time as well. >> mitt romney is not the pugilist the former president is and he has been on the campaign trail and speeches in recent weeks saying joe biden is the threat to democracy. it means he is using that language, right, that i expect to hear from joe biden. >> yeah, you're exactly right. donald trump's superpower is he is the best counterpuncher in modern american politics. but the fact is, he is in biden's wheelhouse. when you run a presidential campaign, what but want to do is control the narrative, and if donald trump wants to fight about who is best for democracy on the third anniversary of january 6th, have at it. he is going to lose that fight and he is letting the biden campaign decide the tone and tenor and the biden campaign should get credit for pulling the former president on to their turf. >> jim, i understand what the biden campaign's theory of case, and you detail it quite well, as well, in terms of people come home, it will

who has this book coming out about mitt romney, chronicling him. put this on the screen. this is from the book the reckoning. he writes that, this is the text, from mitt rneto senator mitch mcconnell. he says, the senatowrote in a text, i hope that sufficient security plans are in place. i am concerned that the instigator, the president, is the one who commands the reinforcements, the d.c. and capitol police might require. madam mayor, the former president has blamed you and speaker pelosi for what happened on the capitol that day. this day three years ago. you read that text message understanding that there were so many warnings. people knew, so many people were afraid that donald trump would not rise to the occasion and do what needed to be done. three years later, what your take on everything? >> first of all, it's a solemn day. i'm glad that you are talking to the american people about what actually happened. the very significant threat to our country that day. and the threat that continues. there was a real attack on our democracy. there was a

liz cheney and mitt romney. >> that is so cynical and irresponsible, and you know, surprising, frankly at the border. the republican leader to be saying well, we're not going to take action because trump doesn't want us to, that just confirms what everybody's frustrations are about politics today. and it is just really, really cynical and sad that that's the position they're taking. >> i think the border is a very important issue for donald trump. and the fact that he would communicate to republican senators and congresspeople that he doesn't want us to solve the border problem because he wants to blame biden for it is really appalling. >> they still sound like, as you said, they're talking about the bush era. have they not met mitch mcconnell. he said our top political priority in 2010 is to deny president obama a secon term. they live in a party where the republican nationally committee is weighing a resution to just declare trump a winner. >> i know both of these people pretty well, i have worked with them closely. as we say in vermont, let's see how this sugars out. when donald tru

mitt romney won by 8 votes. >> bret: about two weeks later a new tally showed rick santorum had more. >> you feel for rick santorum because he was snake bitten. he did have a good showing. he was kind of the story come in. surprising showing, right. >> bret: the eventual winner of the most delegates would change once again. >> iowa casts 22 votes for ron paul. [cheers] >> bret: since they were not bound to vote for santorum or romney at the convention, the delegates were able to switch their preference. >> representative paul saw how contested c conventions could ld to nomination. >> 2016 cycle the made delegates bound to the candidate for whom they were allocated. >> that was something that you did have, especially in the 1970s where the reagan vs. ford campaign really wasn't locked up until the national convention. 123[cheers] >> democrats don't have binding delegates changed theirs as well after issues plagued the 2020 caucuses. >> you can't talk about the 2020 democratic nomination process without saying it was a debacle. >> that we're going to get to a point that we aren't able

you have mitt romney, hardly a friend of donald trump's retiring. mitt romney saying, look.e was the only person in history to impeach a person of his own party. january 6th is not a winning political message for joe biden. people have formed their opinions on it. he needs to find something else. he has abandoned the bidenomics thing. we'll see a third message coming. >> if democracy is not on the ballot, i don't know what is on the ballot. 86% of the voters in 2022 believed it was on the ballot. that's why you saw, you know, governor shapiro rise in pennsylvania and of course, a new governor in arizona as well. so democracy is on the ballot, and no amount of poll -- no amount of pontification will stop people from thinking, that january 6th wasn't an attack on the citadel of our democracy. over 40 officers still hurt, injured. many of them still suffering trauma, and yes. this was an attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power. so yes, that's on the ballot. it'll be on the ballot in 2024, 2026, 2028 because donald trump is poison in the well once again. >> all that's tru

it is a blast at mitt romney.f this another problem, it was not clear that the house would ever pass the deal but senators wanted to do something. they still may try. amna: what about the critical aid funding? when does the inaction to pass funding create more problems? lisa: i want to credit nick schifrin for a lot of this reporting. right now the u.s. is paying for critical weaponry but the ukraine government to keep financial aid viable. $4 billion is needed for them routinely to keep the payroll going. the u.s. is paying for teachers and those kind of things. if there is not air defense for ukraine, that will be a game changer soon. they will probably not be able to make it as they are coming up quickly. amna: our congressional correspondent lisa desjardins, thank you. lisa: you're welcome. amna: former president donald trump is also dealing with his own legal problems today. he took the stand in a new york city courtroom as part of the defamation lawsuit filed by writer e. jean carroll. in an earlier trial, t

mitt romney did in 2012. john mccain did in 2008 and you win new hampshire.re is going to be a surprise on tuesday night that would probably be haley more than desantis just based on the polling. haley would need independent voters to come through for her and she would need them to come through for her big because if you just take a look at the latest polling we've seen out of new hampshire just this morning, a brand-new poll from the boston globe, nbc 10, suffolk, donald trump with a 19-point advantage over nikki haley in new hampshire in this poll. another recent poll in new hampshire, a 14-point lead for trump over haley. she is now 48 hour away facing what looks like a double-digit deficit in new hampshire, but those independents do loom as the wild card, because as you can see here in both of these polls haley is doing much better with the independent voters than overall. the formula for haley is two part here. number one, she won a big independent turnout. we showed you 45% in 2012. she won something along those lines in the republican primary on tuesda

again, just inside a week out before iowa, mitt romney was leading at about 24.santorum was down in their head at around 15%. and, if you're following the pattern here, what makes iowa an interesting place to start the race, and people of debated back and forth about whether this is the right way to do it, but we're dealing with what's gonna happen a week from now. we're dealing with the actual way this works. and it's gonna be iowa again. guess what happened despite romney's big lead? >> it is not too early for the santorum campaign, folks, to be declaring a huge and somewhat unexpected victory here. >> as he the great contender? who is rick centaur? is he the guy movement conservatives can finally radley around to defeat mitt romney? >> game on. [applause] thank you so much, iowa. >> so pleasant. game on, and thank you. now, that doesn't tell you who's ultimately gonna win the nomination or the election, but it reminds you that, again, the narrow point i'm making, in a beltway crew of reporters and pundits, seems to habitually forget or never learn is, the pre-

because mitt romney, who is a defender of democracy, and has been brave in many moments.uote, as a biden campaign theme, i think the threats to democracy pitches a bust. dan january six will be four years old by the election, people have process it one way or another. biden needs fresh material, a new attack, rather than kicking a dead political horse. >> now my view is that this is about how trump will govern, but what do you think, in terms of a central argument, and how central it will be in this election? >> while with all due respect to senator romney, and i do respect him, i think that a campaign is what you make it. and when we talk about democracy, and why january 6th was important, we have to convey to people what it means to them. so i see his point, just in isolation, this is not enough. but what it means to them. democracy, it's about freedom, it's about, he says, trump says obamacare sucks, forget my crudeness, but i'm just quoting. >> you're quoting him, it's not your words. [laughter] >> obamacare sucks. no, obamacare cures. so he says he wants to undo that

and george w bushin for mitt romney and george w bush in the past, people have left the republican party out for caucuses. that tells you a lot about the different states, thatis lot about the different states, that is the kind of motor nikki haley needs to turnover her on tuesday. the trump base is much more loyal and active than the moderate republicans who might come out and be convinced to stop him. come out and be convinced to stop him-— stop him. next, what did you make of the _ stop him. next, what did you make of the turnout? - stop him. next, what did you make of the turnout? it - stop him. next, what did you make of the turnout? it was. make of the turnout? it was about 100,000 people, usually it is closer to 160 and 180. presidentjoe biden coming out and saying this was not as big and saying this was not as big and strong of a winter donald trump it might have appeared at first. is there anything to that argument? i first. is there anything to that argument?— first. is there anything to that argument? i think dave's oint is that argument? i think dave's point is the — that arg

i want you to listen to josh hawley and mitt romney, two very different republicans for their takes onthis. >> i am not going to vote for 50,000 more green cards. we have way too much to play for in the country. i'm not gonna vote for 5000 people over the border a day before we shut down the border. i'm not gonna vote for expedited work permits for illegal immigrants. if that is what is in the deal, and who knows, because we haven't seen, it but that is what i'm told all the time. if that's what it, i'm not voting for. it >> formal president trump has indicated to senators that he does not want us to solve the problem at the border. he wants to lay the blame for the border at biden. and at the idea that someone running for president would say please hurt the country so i can play my opponent and help my politics is a shocking development. >> what mitt romney said there is a shopping development is actually happening over and over again. donald trump saying in a post this morning, that, quote a bad border deal is far worse than no border deal at all. alex? >> reporter: so karen, to you,

mitt was hitler for while. remember when they accused romney of giving a lady and they actually claimed mitt was evil for putting his on the roof of his car? that is, until someone pointed out that obama had put dogs on the roof of his mouth. yeah, obama wanted a dog. he bragged about it in one of his biographies and away from the dinner table, i was introduced to dog meat. tough segment, tougher and most aggressive crunchy. >> but how smooth is barack working the dog eating with snakes and crickets like we wouldn't notice. yeah, i'll have a cricket, some fried snake and old yeller . again, the dems keep predicting how terrifying trump will be. as if he wasn't already president once when things were better. they're hyping a horror movie when it's the sequel to a feel good comedy punch lines, but no bread lines. they want to blame everything on him. the truth is, he mostly left us alone, and that's what we all want to be left alone. trump didn't tell you what kind of car to drive or food to eat. he didn't care if he didn't like big macs. that meant more for him. look, i don't want the government doing pretty anyt

. >> i mean, mitt romney yesterday asked by a cnn reporter what he thought about the iowa results, and he said, "well, i don't understand the republican party. i don't understand my party. they're supporting a guy who raped a woman." of course, that's what the judge said. ask mitt romney about the iowa caucus entrance polls showing that a majority of gop caucusgoers didn't believe that joe biden was elected legitimately. mitt said, i think people are out of touch with reality and will accept anything trump tells them. you had a jury that said donald trump rap ed a woman, and that doesn't seem to be moving the needle. there's a lot of things about today's electorate i have a hard time understanding. >> my cousin, matthew, went to a trump event in new hampshire and wrote me this long email about how gobsmacking it was. no matter what trump said, it seemed the audience would just take it completely at face value, no matter how ridiculous, no matter how obvious a lie it was. it was like a religious event. it was like a cult event. they were loving everything he was saying. most of it compl

we tried to get, mitt romney, foam mitt, bumper stickers, i tried to pull out more iowa specific bumpertickers. support the family farm. along the same lines, bush-cheney farm and ranch team. and then this one here is more of the campaign literature, this is jesse jackson, a fighter for farmers and ranchers. some of the more iowa specific pieces. this is a t-shirt that says dean precinct captain, this would be the t-shirt the captain for howard dean would have worn at the caucus that evening. we have a lot of t-shirts like this specific to the caucus night themselves. you will see we have pat buchanan potholder. it says "i voted for pat buchanan -- iowa straw poll 1999." we have autographed pieces in the collection as well. that would have been something someone at the straw poll would have picked up. herman cain, 2012. the cup says "how is that working out for you?" then obama, rural iowans for obama cap. fans are a popular item at the state fair. we have ron paul 2012. plan orrin hatch. -- and orrin hatch. these next items are from lamar alexander. i'm not sure what came in this jar b