. >> i wanted to add that often when we have demolition of historic resources we have mittgation measures to reduce the impacts on the resources. so one of the things that we'll explore is using mitigation measures to talk about, you know, using these design guidelines as well. so we'll look into that and clarify that. >> that could be a great -- >> thank you. commissioner hyland. >> thank you. i just want to say commissioner hillis that i think that you and i are really aligned in the idea around facadism and i have been very vocal if we're keeping the facades that we do it in a meaningful way. and understanding the volume behind it helps to do that. and to your point commissioner wolfram, of the resource that is being demolished -- so the pine street row, there were two projects, one on the west side closer to franklin where we retained leapts and then on the other side of -- the east side where we did not but we asked -- our joint commissions asked them to maintain the urban massing along that road, but -- those are the project -- so the point is that if the project is a demolition whi