at least 59 companies and more than 140 people, including president mnangagwa, have been sanction foreged rights abuses. the u.k. recently imposed punishments on four zimbabwe security officials over crackdowns on security officials in 2018 and 2019. they include embargo on sales of military equipment and a freeze on assets. the government says the financial measures are crippling the country's development, but critics blame government mismanagement and corruption. let's bring in our guests. from harare, obert gutu, former deputy minister of justice and legal affairs. from johannesburg, piers pigou, international crisis group senior consultant for southern africa. and also from harare, ibbo mandaza, director of the southern africa political economy series trust. thanks to you all for joining us today. appreciate your time here. in the past, you have apologized for being part of opposition party politicians in zimbabwe who repeatedly called on the west to impose and maintain sanctions on zimbabwe. why did you apologize? obert: yes. i had to apologize because i had deep introspection an